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It’s supposed to be crazy. I guess Bruss and McClendon were drafted on day three, so maybe it’s not so far fetched. It may be wishful thinking that McClendon pans out.

I think Shelton is center this year. Then in 2024 the line looks like this:

Jackson
McClendon
Avila
Bruss
Havenstein

This line would have two studs and possibly three average to above average players in between. That has potential to be good. A line only has to have two very good players to elevate it the rest of the unit.

They’ve got some intriguing UDFA linemen too.

That line to me is prob best case scenario for 2024 if McClendon really is the diamond in the rough that many think he is and Bruss can show well (I just haven't seen anything to make me think he's gonna be good but also, we don't have much to go on).

Shelton is the center this year if Bruss can show something for sure. If he can't, I think one of the guard spots is Shelton's to lose and Allen gets one more shot at Center.
 

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Yeah, Tomlinson is electric. I thought the slot was Durrants, but maybe he's being considered a boundary corner at this point.
Our two best corners (Durant & Tomlinson) are slot sized but will be needed outside. I think both will survive fine out there though we'll give up some easy yards at times due to size/tackling.

Kendrick I pray starts in the slot in camp. He needs the protection it affords for his lack of speed. If not, then we're gonna be dealing with him getting BBQ'd whenever he doesn't get a good jam off the los. Or with Rochell, who hasn't shown a damn thing but boy he sure does have upside wooo. Never know though, maybe year 3 he finally figures things out as he was raw coming in.
 

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That line to me is prob best case scenario for 2024 if McClendon really is the diamond in the rough that many think he is and Bruss can show well (I just haven't seen anything to make me think he's gonna be good but also, we don't have much to go on).

Shelton is the center this year if Bruss can show something for sure. If he can't, I think one of the guard spots is Shelton's to lose and Allen gets one more shot at Center.
Gotta add that If Bruss doesn't win that job at RG he's a bust. Period. It means his head is not in the game for whatever reason or he can't figure out pass pro at this level, because losing to Shelton in year two at OG would be a catastrophe for him. Shelton is not a good OG. He is a marginal Center though.

My whole issue with Allen is that he is an injury waiting to happen and that Shelton is right there with him in the run game. But honestly the difference in the two is very slight. I think Allen is better overall in consistency (due to pass pro and calls) when he's healthy but not by very much.

For this line to be good this year we need Bruss to show well. If he doesn't we're gonna have a subpar RG, which is not the worst thing in the world but we are definitely marginal at Center and may be subpar at LT. But if Bruss plays well then we have a strength, that being the right side, because he and Hav in the run game will give us good movement with that duo. And from there the marginal Center is protected on each side by good guards which works quite well.

Might be premature to think Avila is good year one at LG but I do think he will be. You can play fast at OG in the NFL as long as you have enough strength to you in the phonebooth. And this guy does. Also unlike Bruss he is very developed in pass pro.

So really LT and RG are the positions on which our hopes are mostly pinned here, where we are going to need stepping up. And that's assuming health overall which will be required of course.
 

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Our two best corners (Durant & Tomlinson) are slot sized but will be needed outside. I think both will survive fine out there though we'll give up some easy yards at times due to size/tackling.

Kendrick I pray starts in the slot in camp. He needs the protection it affords for his lack of speed. If not, then we're gonna be dealing with him getting BBQ'd whenever he doesn't get a good jam off the los. Or with Rochell, who hasn't shown a damn thing but boy he sure does have upside wooo. Never know though, maybe year 3 he finally figures things out as he was raw coming in.

Yeah, I don't understand why Rochell wasn't given any reps last year. He showed potential his rookie year, or at least I thought he did. He is so physically talented it would just be a shame if he doesn't figure it out.

Kendricks is tough and seems to be an alpha type, but he's just not talented enough to be a CB or a Slot... Maybe he makes for a better SS. I don't know...

As for two undersized guys playing boundary CB's... I just keep seeing taller receivers out jumping them...

Morris and Pleasent have their work cut out for them, that's for sure.
 

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Gotta add that If Bruss doesn't win that job at RG he's a bust. Period. It means his head is not in the game for whatever reason or he can't figure out pass pro at this level, because losing to Shelton in year two at OG would be a catastrophe for him. Shelton is not a good OG. He is a marginal Center though.
I mean, I'm not really expecting much from Bruss this year (and happy to be surprised!) but I'd wait on calling him a bust. The dude lost a whole year of development to an injury. He may need a year of seasoning before he can win a starting spot as last preseason seemed to point to a guy who needed a lot of technique work and who's head was swimming after kicking in to guard. None of that was probably addressed while he was on crutches and OTA's and training camp will probably not be enough to get him over the hump.
 

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I don't know why everybody thinks Shelton is a lousy guard.

He was the best player by far against Buffalo and then he immediately went to center after that game.

I think he only played one more game at RG.

I didn't review that game so he must have had a terrible game that day for people to put him down as a RG.
 

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I mean, I'm not really expecting much from Bruss this year (and happy to be surprised!) but I'd wait on calling him a bust. The dude lost a whole year of development to an injury. He may need a year of seasoning before he can win a starting spot as last preseason seemed to point to a guy who needed a lot of technique work and who's head was swimming after kicking in to guard. None of that was probably addressed while he was on crutches and OTA's and training camp will probably not be enough to get him over the hump.
You're missing the point. I understand the guy got hurt. But the bottom line here is if an OG is going to be any good by year two you're gonna see it. This isn't TE. Also Shelton we know what he is. He is a marginal Center and a poor OG. So if this guy cannot beat Shelton out in year two he's simply not the guy they thought they were drafting.

I get what they liked about him. His film at Wisconsin had him doing a lot of good things in the run game and I saw the pick as an investment towards improving this run game. But his head was obviously spinning last year before he got hurt, the guy was confused and looked like he was thinking which is never good and his pass pro was not gonna be good enough. Now he is going into year two and camp two he should be locked in and physically better than he was last year, bigger and stronger and know the offense cold. If those things are the case he will beat out Shelton.

So to be clear: I expect Bruss to win the RG job and play well for us. I figure he'll be very good in the run game, because I think they're going to do some inside zone and duo this year with him and Avila at the guard spots. Pass sets he should be solid which will get the job done.

He's basically that situation where I see no reason to doubt he'll win the job. And by extension if he doesn't there's gonna be enough wrong that he'll be done in horns, following in the clown shoes of other former Rams picks of late on the OL.
 

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I don't know why everybody thinks Shelton is a lousy guard.

He was the best player by far against Buffalo and then he immediately went to center after that game.

I think he only played one more game at RG.

I didn't review that game so he must have had a terrible game that day for people to put him down as a RG.
He gets moved too much. He is too easily moved even in zone runs at OG, and in pass sets he caves in the pocket trying to handle power rushes. The guy gets the job done at Center but if he's our RG it won't be ideal.
 

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Also another crazy camp prediction of mine: our starting offensive line? Alaric Jackson, Steve Avila, Coleman Shelton, Logan Bruss, and Rob Havenstein. Allen gets dealt, Noteboom goes on PUP and then IR because Jackson's taken the job.
 

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He gets moved too much. He is too easily moved even in zone runs at OG, and in pass sets he caves in the pocket trying to handle power rushes. The guy gets the job done at Center but if he's our RG it won't be ideal.
Did you watch him in the Buffalo game? He was by far the best OL in that game especially on pass protection.
 

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Did you watch him in the Buffalo game? He was by far the best OL in that game especially on pass protection.
I didn't rewatch that shit, no. Nor did I try to analyze it in any manner.
 

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Not sure if Noteboom will be healthy. The guy has been through a lot. A torn achilles must be a bitch to come back from, expecially for a lineman, who must push as hard as they can on that tendon. I know I'd be a bit concerned. And besides his achilles, didn't he tear up both his ACL and his MCL a couple years ago? They guy has to be getting a bit shell-shocked at this point.
From what I understand, recovery from a torn achilles takes about 6 months but the long-term loss of strength and range of motion is more severe than other soft tissue injuries.
Noteboom may never be 100% of what he once was. At least Alaric Jackson only suffered a broken bone which means there shouldnt be any drop off in his play.
 

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Oh, I don't know. I just don't like Kendricks. ;)

Yeah, Tomlinson is electric. I thought the slot was Durrants, but maybe he's being considered a boundary corner at this point.
I get it & with Jalen Ramsey gone it leaves a job opening.
The Rams have had D.Long & Troy Hill in the rotation who are no longer(Rams) here.
Troy Hill was a nice stop gap CB.
RR31 should play a bigger role now as more of a veteran.

 

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That line to me is prob best case scenario for 2024 if McClendon really is the diamond in the rough that many think he is and Bruss can show well (I just haven't seen anything to make me think he's gonna be good but also, we don't have much to go on).

Shelton is the center this year if Bruss can show something for sure. If he can't, I think one of the guard spots is Shelton's to lose and Allen gets one more shot at Center.
Sorry I could be wrong but I don’t see AJax as the starting LT in 2024. I see a commitment to a top draft pick or perhaps trade to get what they need.
 

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Alaric Jackson begins camp as the starting LT and never looks back...

Derion Kendrick develops into a starter...

Cam gets passed up by Kyren or the rookie...

Hodges-Tomlinson, Kobie Turner, and Nick Hampton earn starting spots on Defense...

McClendon pushes Anchrum off the active roster...So much praise for a guy that apparently the coaches love but never comes close to sniffing a starting spot...