Cowherd Is A Clown

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Other than multiple Hall of Famers on offense

that was probably my point in my rant.

wouldn't have mattered when they played. when you have players that good together that are equally smart and athletic, they're gonna run rings around any defense, in any era. but especially in this era.

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he said the gsot wouldn't even be the best offense in the nfc west right now.

what?

the gsot would score 50 points in the first half alone right now. can't touch the wrs, can't touch the qb. can you imagine kurt warner with the rules today? bruce and holt? hakim? marshall out of the backfield?

fuck that clown.

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Yep, I saw that.
he’s an idiot.
You put the GSOT on the field now, with these offense friendly rules, they may score over 700 points a year.
 

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he said the gsot wouldn't even be the best offense in the nfc west right now.

what?

the gsot would score 50 points in the first half alone right now. can't touch the wrs, can't touch the qb. can you imagine kurt warner with the rules today? bruce and holt? hakim? marshall out of the backfield?

fuck that clown.

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i heard him say that too … totally disagree.
 

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Yep, I saw that.
he’s an idiot.
You put the GSOT on the field now, with these offense friendly rules, they may score over 700 points a year.
If Martz could figure out how to beat cover two.
 

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Because of the GSOT, we now have Defenses getting away with holding receivers and what not. Defenses would have never caught up to that offense if the NFL didn't stopped calling penalties against the D.
 

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that was probably my point in my rant.

wouldn't have mattered when they played. when you have players that good together that are equally smart and athletic, they're gonna run rings around any defense, in any era. but especially in this era.

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True. Can you imagine Warner being protected like Brady has been. He took so many shots after delivering the ball. It was how his hand got injured and why he retired. Oh and all the head hunting over the middle. No way would that offense not be #1 right now.
 

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But that is what most people do. That is how you get someone labeled the GOAT. I know, I know, I am beating a dead horse. I just can't let it go.
 

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Meh who cares. Cowherd loves the Rams he's almost always positive about them, more positive than some in our GDT :D. And trying to put players/teams from one era into another and guess how they'd play is just silly.
 

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They played the best defenses that those years had to offer. Maybe not the actual trans with the number 1 defense each year, but they posted the defenses that were sitting schematically at the time. It's not like they had some advantage other offense didn't have... Other than multiple Hall of Famers on offense.
That offense was nothing without Martz. Without him it never would have become the GSOT.

Players are just people unless they have someone pulling the strings of the marionette. None of those guys were AD level dominant and even he gets things schemed for him from time to time.

That entire scheme is 2 decades old now and would be very predictable in todays NFL. Martz WAS predictable, was he not?

As I said, GSOT was revolutionary...it inspired so much of today's NFL. Just as inspirational as Perkins or Walsh.

Just bevause the above is true does not mean that the GSOT would be anything but a good offense today.

It was obviously a multi-generational great offense but let's not simply be an echo chamber here. The league has evolved; concepts and coverages have evolved.

The only caveat being if Martz would be humble enough to further evolve his scheme. Anything is possible; however, I won't be holding my breath.
 

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I appreciate Colin, but don't listen too much... He was on the local Portland sports radio station about 20 years ago, so I caught him on the drive home most days... then he left for the big time, ESPN gig.
However I respect the guys work ethic.... What really intrigues me is that as a kid, he built a home-brew type radio and broadcast throughout his neighborhood.. probably no one listened... but that sort of determination led to the career he has.
To me, that is a feel good story in itself...
 

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Imagine McVay's offense if he had Kurt, Marshal, Torry, Ike, Orlando, etc. in their prime playing for him!
And that 1999 defense was for real too!
 

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I realize your comment there was tongue in cheek but he knows how to beat two safety looks. It is why he hired Staley last year, to learn the defensive rules so he can work them. Players just have to execute the call.

To pass there you need to threaten over the top. Gotta have the WRs, the pass pro, the QB, etc. 4 verts, flooding one side, using underneath routes to isolate safeties, there are plenty of known ways. Players gotta execute. Our guys have been hit and miss there but the run game emergence has helped a lot too.
 

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he said the gsot wouldn't even be the best offense in the nfc west right now.

what?

the gsot would score 50 points in the first half alone right now. can't touch the wrs, can't touch the qb. can you imagine kurt warner with the rules today? bruce and holt? hakim? marshall out of the backfield?

fuck that clown.

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I didn't take it as a knock on the GSOT. The GSOT was the first example of a legendary offense off the top of his head.

As a soundbite without context, yeah it's a super dumb statement.

But unlike nearly everyone else hosting cable sports shows, he doesn't rely on hot takes and controversy to get views. He just talks. He shares thoughts off the top of his head and they usually aren't stupid.

Comparing the GSOT to today, what year is he talking about? He wasn't being specific because he wasn't making a serious case. He said it in a very exasperated way and my impression was that he was speaking of the offensive production in today's NFL being so much greater than it was 20 years ago.
And that's true.

What's not true is that the GSOT wouldn't be better offensively than any any team in the NFCW right now (let alone the league) in today's NFL landscsape.

But as I said, he might not be likeable but he isn't stupid. He knows that HOFer Marshall Faulk, HOFer Orlando Pace, HOFer Isaac Bruce, HOF candidate Torry Holt and the American Underdog himself are a legendary group and he has to know there isn't an offense that talented in the league right now.
He also knows that today's NFL was pioneered by those guys. The wrote the book on the modern high octane offense.

If I believed he was being literal, yeah, thems fightin words... but that's not how I interpreted it.
 

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Does anyone have an actual link to the comment? I'd be interested to see how this comment came out. I, like others actually like Cowherd and think he's been pretty favorable to the Rams even when "the media" was not. Heck, he even supported Goff at one point when the rest of the world was calling him a bust (2017)
 

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Does anyone have an actual link to the comment? I'd be interested to see how this comment came out. I, like others actually like Cowherd and think he's been pretty favorable to the Rams even when "the media" was not. Heck, he even supported Goff at one point when the rest of the world was calling him a bust (2017)

I listen to him daily. I think it was said in the middle of a point he was making about the coaches who are dominating the league at the moment are all offensive coaches. Maybe about Pete Carrol and Seattle? If you weren’t concentrating you may have missed it. Saying that the NFC West is that good offensively at the moment that the GSOT would be last. I think it was a silly comment just said in the heat of the moment. :thinking:
 

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Does anyone have an actual link to the comment? I'd be interested to see how this comment came out. I, like others actually like Cowherd and think he's been pretty favorable to the Rams even when "the media" was not. Heck, he even supported Goff at one point when the rest of the world was calling him a bust (2017)
IIRC, it was a comment where he was pointing out the offenses in 2021 being so good TGSOT wouldn't even be top 5 (or 10 I don't remember). Of course he didn't research it because compared to this season's numbers they would have been #3 in offensive points and #3 in total yards. Which in 1999 we wouldn't have thought possible. That's how I took it. The best offense the NFL ever saw....to that point, complete with a nickname...TGSOT....wouldn't have been tops in the NFL in 2021. Innocent off the cuff comment when describing all the offensive minds in the NFL....as TK-42RAM said.
 

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Cowherd actually use to be much better in my opinion. He's gotten a lot more political lately and he usually plays both sides of a argument so he can appear as if he's always right. He was knocking the Stafford trade at first and now he's non stop how great it is. He's your typical media blowhard who rarely does his homework on what he's saying.

That said he has a entertaining show so in that regard he's one if the better listens.
 

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On the other hand I find someone like Bayless extremely biased, annoyingly over the top, easily rattled and weak on his takes. I want to come through the TV screen whenever he’s on which distracts from anything he is saying. For his sake, I hope his regular beat downs by Shannon Sharpe are scripted (like the Harlem Globetrotters over the Washington Generals) because otherwise hes just plain pathetic.
I don’t get that show at all, every single day those two have been on for years they talk cowpokes or Lakers even when they were horrible. I get that they are 2 of the biggest fan bases in America but if there’s nothin to talk about they look ridiculous pulling topics out of their asses.