Come for Avila, stay for the entire offensive line

[Kupped]

Starting to think what the Rams do here is play Jackson at LT under that RFA status with a 2nd to 3rd round dev OT from the draft behind him.

Then go straight BPA in round one.

I've been kicking this idea around.. but also the idea of not drafting one this year.. keeping Jackson using the RFA.. and drafting one in the first round in 25.

I'm also very interested in trading back a bunch.. and trying to load up one more time. Hoping to have another big class.
If I could get six picks in first 100? I'd love it.
2 CBs, a Center, an OT, an Edge and a Safety.

 

[Merlin]

I think the risk would be some team swooping on him and eating that first round pick. Because if we do that then the tender will need to be very high otherwise he'll get picked off for sure. Still might get picked off for a high pick, especially if it's a playoff team with a pick in the 20s.

But that would work for us. If that happens then we use one of the two picks on an OT.

 

[Loyal]

Starting to think what the Rams do here is play Jackson at LT under that RFA status with a 2nd to 3rd round dev OT from the draft behind him.

Then go straight BPA in round one.

So trade the 1st to KC for Creed Humphrey?

 

[Merlin]

So trade the 1st to KC for Creed Humphrey?

I would be willing to offer them Brian Allen.

 

[So Ram]

Jackson has been on an absolute hot streak these past 5 weeks or so. He's playing as well as some very prominent names out there.

Yep - The Big question is going to be is what is he worth ? Steve Avila has only made him better.They are really working well together.

Sean Mcvay gives Ryan Kendall a lot of credit teaching.He is really hands on really is apart of the group.
-Nick Jones has been an assistant O’Line coach who was hired with or under CareBear!! He does a good job learning & teaching.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Yep - The Big question is going to be is what is he worth ? Steve Avila has only made him better.They are really working well together.

Sean Mcvay gives Ryan Kendall a lot of credit teaching.He is really hands on really is apart of the group.
-Nick Jones has been an assistant O’Line coach who was hired with or under CareBear!! He does a good job learning & teaching.

He'll likely get a first round tender this year so we'll get another season to see if he's for real.

 

[dieterbrock]

I think the risk would be some team swooping on him and eating that first round pick. Because if we do that then the tender will need to be very high otherwise he'll get picked off for sure. Still might get picked off for a high pick, especially if it's a playoff team with a pick in the 20s.

But that would work for us. If that happens then we use one of the two picks on an OT.

If they cut or trade Boom, tagging Jackson with a 2nd round tender would be a wash cap wise, a 1st rounder would be about a 1.5 mill addition.
No brainer IMO.
Still would be in a position to draft a "franchise" LT if one were to fall to them

 

[oldnotdead]

Jackson is a developmental talent that needs work on his footwork and general technique That said he has an over inflated ego so it will depend upon his salary demands. Right now Alaric is playing like a high second or low first round talent. The smart thing to do would be to put a first round tender on him. Why? Because I expect the Rams to draft an OT in the second or third round anyway because they will know they won't be willing to pay his salary demands in 2025.

I don't see anyone giving up a first round pick for Jackson and they can simply use him as a bridge player. The Rams will likely keep Noteboom one more year and if push comes to shove can use him as a bridge. But I think they are looking at Joe as a RT where he played well in relief. They can restructure his existing money over 3 years with the final year as a void year. This will allow them to draft a day three OT to develop behind Joe for two years. Why Joe at RT? Because they were able to do things with Noteboom they never could with Havenstein, i.e. like pull from the right side to block on the left side in the run game.

Dotson is not a lock to stay. Like Jackson it will depend upon his contract expectations and how the Rams feel about McClendon. IMO it's the right side that changes if any will be made on the OL. McClendon if he can make the position transition can be a real mauler in the run game. I have a lot of confidence in Wendell as the OL coach and if anyone can do it he can.

 

[hotanez]

Why Joe at RT? Because they were able to do things with Noteboom they never could with Havenstein, i.e. like pull from the right side to block on the left side in the run game.

 

[Kupped]

Jackson’s been good. How he finishes the season will have a big impact on the offseason for him and the team.

If he continues his ascent? Who knows.. they may give him a real contract. LT’s are tough to find.

 

[So Ram]

He'll likely get a first round tender this year so we'll get another season to see if he's for real.

That will be nice ! I in my mind looked back at how he (Jackson)became The Rams starting LT!!

I would say I knew The Rams Offensive Line pretty good.If you look at how this year played out,I could tell you how right I was.

I will say this is without Dotson,The Rams might have been in trouble.Noteboom was never or should’ve been a guard.
The Majority on this board KNOWS that.I doubted for a few years.To have had seen him there ??

I agree Alaric Jackson should be tendered.I also think there is also a better chance The Rams sign him to a multi-year contract instead ?

My question to you(myself) is when was the last time The Rams tendered a player ? If my memory is right? Then I will call that FALSE if Alaric being tendered ?

My guess is under Mcvay it was first TRU who Les Snead(Fisher) F’d up on ? Meaning he or The Rabbit never got resigned & depth at CB stunk. MCVAY had to resign TRU to a second FRANCHISE TAG !!! (Horrible GMing) !!

Well then going back was another FISHER mistake in Joyner ?? Well he played FS well
& JJ43 was injured(?).

Anyway JJ was The last Ram tagged ? If so it shows that they don’t like to franchise players anymore & allow them to test the open market ? It’s sort of a change of policy under Mcvay( Les Snead,Demoff) ?

 

[BigRamFan]

That will be nice ! I in my mind looked back at how he (Jackson)became The Rams starting LT!!

I would say I knew The Rams Offensive Line pretty good.If you look at how this year played out,I could tell you how right I was.

I will say this is without Dotson,The Rams might have been in trouble.Noteboom was never or should’ve been a guard.
The Majority on this board KNOWS that.I doubted for a few years.To have had seen him there ??

I agree Alaric Jackson should be tendered.I also think there is also a better chance The Rams sign him to a multi-year contract instead ?

My question to you(myself) is when was the last time The Rams tendered a player ? If my memory is right? Then I will call that FALSE if Alaric being tendered ?

My guess is under Mcvay it was first TRU who Les Snead(Fisher) F’d up on ? Meaning he or The Rabbit never got resigned & depth at CB stunk. MCVAY had to resign TRU to a second FRANCHISE TAG !!! (Horrible GMing) !!

Well then going back was another FISHER mistake in Joyner ?? Well he played FS well
& JJ43 was injured(?).

Anyway JJ was The last Ram tagged ? If so it shows that they don’t like to franchise players anymore & allow them to test the open market ? It’s sort of a change of policy under Mcvay( Les Snead,Demoff) ?

Of course you are aware of the difference between being "tendered" and being "taggged", right?

 

[Ram_Rally]

That will be nice ! I in my mind looked back at how he (Jackson)became The Rams starting LT!!

I would say I knew The Rams Offensive Line pretty good.If you look at how this year played out,I could tell you how right I was.

I will say this is without Dotson,The Rams might have been in trouble.Noteboom was never or should’ve been a guard.
The Majority on this board KNOWS that.I doubted for a few years.To have had seen him there ??

I agree Alaric Jackson should be tendered.I also think there is also a better chance The Rams sign him to a multi-year contract instead ?

My question to you(myself) is when was the last time The Rams tendered a player ? If my memory is right? Then I will call that FALSE if Alaric being tendered ?

My guess is under Mcvay it was first TRU who Les Snead(Fisher) F’d up on ? Meaning he or The Rabbit never got resigned & depth at CB stunk. MCVAY had to resign TRU to a second FRANCHISE TAG !!! (Horrible GMing) !!

Well then going back was another FISHER mistake in Joyner ?? Well he played FS well
& JJ43 was injured(?).

Anyway JJ was The last Ram tagged ? If so it shows that they don’t like to franchise players anymore & allow them to test the open market ? It’s sort of a change of policy under Mcvay( Les Snead,Demoff) ?

So there's a bit of a difference between franchise tagging and tendering. Off the top of my head Darious Williams is the last tender the Rams gave out I think ?

I hope Alaric gets a tender. Essentially a one year contract where his pay his upgraded but still affordable and we get a draft pick if someone signs him.

 

[So Ram]

Of course you are aware of the difference between being "tendered" and being "taggged", right?

Yes - was being lazy.

Really not even looking past this season right now.Looking back is not really worth it,because The Rams are in such a different space.I hope now Sean Mcvay understands how important it is to have a Big Offensive Line upfront! Right now let’s hope they stay healthy. There’s a reason Stafford is playing so well!! What happens to Dotson then ? You can only tender 1 player. There is some rule on how often you can do it as well I believe? Still being lazy.

 

[Merlin]

I hope Alaric gets a tender.

There is no question on that. Only question is what level to tag him at, but that's also not really a question given how strong his play has been during this recent stretch. A one year payday (6 mil or whatever it is for 2024) is appropriate and then we are covered for if some team swoops on him.

 

[WestCoastRam]

That said he [Alaric Jackson] has an over inflated ego

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[oldnotdead]

Dotson can't be tendered he must be tagged. That said I doubt the Rams want to pay Dotson $16-$17M/yr. I think they will offer about $6M/ yr range. I think some team will pay him closer to $10M.

Shelton will get about $6M-$7M/yr IMO.

OL 2024:

LT Jackson (playing under first or second round tender)
LG Avila
C Shelton
RG McClendon or McAllister
RT Havenstein or Noteboom

The Rams IMO will tender Jackson and whether it's a first or second round tender will reflect what they feel about their chances of extending him in 2025. A first round would mean they feel they can pay him LT money which would probably be $15-$17M/yr in 2025. A second round tender would mean they will probably be drafting his replacement in 2024 with Noteboom as their bridge LT.

I think they draft 2 OTs both in the 5th round and it gives them a redshirt year for both. I feel they will take a QB in rd 1, and a CB and edge on day 2. They don't have a 4th round pick so they would have to trade up for one if they wanted a player.

IMO the biggest question mark is WTF is up with Arcuri?

 

[majrleaged]

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It's like he is in the locker room and knows these guys. LOL

 

[oldnotdead]

Westcoast Ram:
During OTAs Jackson made it perfectly clear the ONLY position he would play is LT. Joe was amenable to do what ever he could to be a team player, i.e. RG or RT he was willing to make the transition. That is why Jackson in the LT. His technique issues and footwork issues have arisen though overall he's held up at the position. So the Rams will probably put a second round tender on him to either give him another year or use that second round pick to draft his replacement.

A first round tender would probably mean no one tries to sign him away so the Rams will pay him $9M- $10M this year and see what they have in him. The Rams have to know he will expect an extension of $15-$17M / yr in 2025. He might get that from someone else but I think Les will see him as a 3rd round comp pick, unless he totally kills it in 2024.

 

[oldnotdead]

BTW Jackson has only given up one sack which is great, but he leads in OL in giving up pressures (36) which is not so great. That is the result of flaws in his technique and footwork.