Clay Matthews fined for tweet

[Barrison]

What a joke, criticize the Refs for poor performances and pay the price.. I can't recall any other player that has been fined over a tweet but correct me if I'm wrong. This makes the league look like a dictatorship when you can't criticize such an important aspect of the game without getting in trouble with the league, utter bullshit.

 

[Florida_Ram]

The signing of Ramsey probably has his juices flowing and he's aching to get on the field.

He's gotten some bogus roughing calls on QB's lately and his venting just took 12k out of his pocket.

He's been an impact signing and we all can't wait for him to get back in the lineup. I guess with his jaw wired shut his only outlet is talking with his fingers on the keypad.

Hang in there Clay. You should be back after the bye week.

 

[Varg6]

If we can be 5-3 at the bye and Matthews coming back, and hopefully, more importantly the OL felling better...I like our chances.

 

[Mackeyser]

It's BS.

Every. Single. Time.

Every time I think the NFL, the owners or the Refs union has hit rock bottom, one of those assholes says, "hold my beer"

Don't want to be criticized? Maybe work with the NFL and the bazillion dollar next gen tech that the networks are deploying to get all the calls right.

You know it's bad when the ENTIRE STADIUM and the viewing audience KNOW the refs got it wrong and those assholes have the temerity to say, "yeah, you're going to miss the playoffs because of our incompetence, but it's all a part of the game"

And the you have apologists who talk about the bullshit of "the human experience"

Foh with that noise. I could care less...no, I would actually PREFER... if they had flying ref drones and nanobot cameras and the only reason for the refs was to break up players, place the ball (exactly in place due to their new next gen facemasks with a HUD overlay that indicates the EXACT spot for the ball) and let us know about timeouts.

This idea that we need to cling to this anachronism as part of the human experience is just dumb.

I don't see the NFL having an "Official Buggy Whip supplier to the NFL" or selling officially licensed butter churns.

I mean, think about it. You have some guy during a broadcast saying that we have to embrace human imperfection as necessary, we can't change it, just deal with it... and then they go to commercial and it's a Microsoft commercial touting the latest advancements in computing and NextGen stats that help the NFL, the refs, players and coaches...

Um...what? You might want to let the refs in on it, cuz they think all this replay stuff is just a backstop.

In case anyone's wondering, I'm all for AI and automation putting refs out of business....

 

[Ram65]

Lots of criticism of Riveron. I don't think players can call out the head of NFL officiating without repercussions. Heck everyone else is. I imagine Clay can afford the fine and think it's worth it. The fact that that legal shoulder hit flag was not picked up was ludicrous. Go get em, Clay.

 

[dang]

It’s pretty simple. My guess is there are 3-4 badly missed or blatantly wrong penalties in a game. Don’t let those 3-4 plays dictate the outcome of the game. It’s the human element of the game like injuries or blown assignments. See Saints in the 2018 NFC championship game.

 

[Memento]

Clay's right. Officiating is a total joke, and Riveron isn't helping with shit like this.

 

[RamFan503]

It’s pretty simple. My guess is there are 3-4 badly missed or blatantly wrong penalties in a game. Don’t let those 3-4 plays dictate the outcome of the game. It’s the human element of the game like injuries or blown assignments. See Saints in the 2018 NFC championship game.

While true enough, the human element gets amplified by the constant changing of what constitutes what, cherry picking what can be challenged based on essentially one blown call, and simply making rules that are WAY too subjective. And you also shouldn't have to scout refs to see if you can get a clue as to what and how they may call THE RULES.

Bottom line though. The reffing has been abysmal over the past few years and as hard to believe as it is, it only seems to be worse this season. And I'm not just talking about the Rams. Those two blown hands to the face the other night, the reviewed PI calls that after review and despite everyone looking at all the replays should be reversed yet the main office mind bogglingly sides with the refs, Clay's shoulder to the QB's chest, it goes on and on. It's pathetic really.

 

[LARams_1963]

Sad thing though... even though the critiques are valid it could comeback to bite Clay in the ass. Kinda paining a target on his own back.

 

[Psycho_X]

Sad thing though... even though the critiques are valid it could comeback to bite Clay in the ass. Kinda paining a target on his own back.

He already has a target so guess we’ll see if it can be worse. I’ve never been a big Mathews fan but his point is valid and Goodell can fuck off.

 

[coconut]

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What a joke, criticize the Refs for poor performances and pay the price.. I can't recall any other player that has been fined over a tweet but correct me if I'm wrong. This makes the league look like a dictatorship when you can't criticize such an important aspect of the game without getting in trouble with the league, utter bullshit.

Refs need beer money too.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Officiating for the Lions game was ridiculous

 

[oldnotdead]

The problem is they have too many newbies. All the old timers have retired and these guys from the college game aren't used to the speed. The NFL is trying to protect them until they figure out how to do their jobs....if they ever do. There has been a lot of pushing for the Sky Judge like they used in the AAF. They could then use the veteran judges to cover their asses by catching the serious and blantant bad calls.

Also, I think they need to quit calling a bunch of ticky tack BS away from the play calls. IMO if it didn't affect the play why flag it? IMO that should be the rule of thumb for these guys.

 

[LesBaker]

Oh my goodness.........the refs miss calls. Wait?? What?

Clay Mathews should totally call them out since he has never been out of place on a play, or missed a tackle, or dropped an easy INT, or just fucked up.

Oh man. Please.

People calling out refs are living in glass houses.

The NFL needs to fix this, and they need a better system.

But players calling out refs is like a cheating spouse calling out their spouse for looking at others.

Shut the fuck up!!!

 

[Loyal]

don't care. fine him, and lets move on..

 

[fearsomefour]

If we can be 5-3 at the bye and Matthews coming back, and hopefully, more importantly the OL felling better...I like our chances.

I agree.
Tomorrow is everything. Then it’s everything again the next couple of weeks.

 

[OregonRamsFan]

You can’t stop Clay from preaching even with his jaw wired shut! Preach Clay, Preach!

 

[LesBaker]

 

[Mojo Ram]

https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/10/here-are-the-stats-that-prove-nfl-refs-are-ruining-the-game.html
Here are the stats that prove NFL refs are ruining the game

Well, there might be a reason for that — the officiating.

Check out these numbers from longtime NFL analyst Rick Gosselin:


View: https://twitter.com/RickGosselin9/status/1184112634750210048


He raises a terrific point, and it’s especially noteworthy coming out of Monday night’s game in Green Bay, where the Lions were robbed of a win by crummy officiating. They lost, 23-22.

Most notable were two hands to the face flags on Lions defensive end Trey Flowers, who very clearly did not commit a penalty on those plays. The Lions were furious about the flags.

“Extremely pissed off right now,” safety Tracy Walker told reporters. “Disappointed. Hurt. We had that game. There was some awful, awful calls, but we got to play through that.”

Let’s point out the obvious here: A lot of penalty flags in a game doesn’t mean every call was wrong. And it doesn’t even mean a large number of calls were wrong.

But in general, over-officiating — ticky-tack calls, if you will — slows the pace of games and makes them less entertaining. And in the case of a game like Lions-Packers, two terrible calls — like the ones that went against Flowers — can completely rob a team of a win.

Consider Sunday’s Cowboys-Jets game, too. The Cowboys were flagged nine times for 68 yards, the Jets eight times for 105 yards. That’s 173 total penalty yards.

Jets fans were happy to get Adam Gase’s first win, of course. But the end of the game was particularly awful, in terms of its pace.

There were total 10 penalties — including declined/offsetting flags — in the fourth quarter alone. Just after the two-minute warning, on a Cowboys drive, there were penalties on six straight plays. Yes, six straight plays with a penalty flag. What’s the fun in watching that?

 

[Mojo Ram]

I haven't been quiet about my opinion that about 10-12 years ago i feel like the NFL game was at it's best. Then the NFL (initially) moved into a more progressive approach to rule and game changes. The 2 point conversion, the OT overhaul, moving back the bathroom break extra point for example. Good things for the game.

Since then it's been a constant barrage of adding more and more "safety"centric and "scoring"centric rules that have, along with the advent of replay completely destroyed game flow to this modern version of pro football.

Add to that, this analysis paralysis culture of watching a game, highlight reels leading off with "controversial call here", and even broadcasters calling a game that way due to the ridiculous high number of subjective calls or non-calls on almost every single play. "Was it? Wasn't it? Let's look at it again. I don't know Todd, lets go the company man who works for the NFL in NY. What do you see Bill?"

IMO it's been borderline toxic to the game. Younger fans have no frame of reference, unless you want to go back a decade or two, or three and watch some full games. It's not a better product today, sorry.

I actually sympathize with the refs on this problem, a little. There is simply too much to manage here for humans. It's a bloated, micro managed rule book and the refs are LOSING...clearly.

One more thing. Is the game really safer than it was 15 years ago with the advent of helmet rules, nerfing kickoffs, horse collars, protecting QB's etc?

In terms of the long term effects of brain injuries it's too soon to make that judgement, but i would be shocked if the data shows that there are less heavy contact type injuries since the NFL decided it was going to make this league safer by adding player safety rules. Pssst...they wanted more scoring and less backup QB's getting PT.