Calvin Ridley out for ‘22 for gambling on football

[Dxmissile]

Oh there are owners gambling on games?

The problem with this narrative of the crime not fitting the punishment is that the NFL and the NFLPA agreed to a CBA that lays out the punishments. Per the CBA this is the punishment that the union agreed to. If the players and the union want to change this then they have something to try to bargain for the next go round.

Idk I just think that rule was too broad he isn’t on the field or around the team he has no impact on the outcome of those games I get it though just feel like it’s too harsh for that particular offense

 

[OldSchool]

Idk I just think that rule was too broad he isn’t on the field or around the team he has no impact on the outcome of those games I get it though just feel like it’s too harsh for that particular offense

I'm not disputing that, but I've read a metric shit ton of people portraying Calvin as a victim. He knew the rules, or he and his agent are idiots if he didn't, and he broke the rules. This is the punishment that every person in the history of the NFL has been subjected to. This is what he had coming to him for doing what he did.

I'm in no way agreeing with the punishment but it's what is laid out in the CBA. A piece of shit like Kareem Hunt that beats women got what 2 games? Calvin got a season for putting in a couple parley cards. Now you can argue that the punishments don't fit the crimes and that's absolutely fair. But if people want this changed it's all on the shoulders of the players to change it in the CBA. Until then Calvin got exactly what he should have based on the CBA.

 

[Loyal]

I'm not disputing that, but I've read a metric shit ton of people portraying Calvin as a victim. He knew the rules, or he and his agent are idiots if he didn't, and he broke the rules. This is the punishment that every person in the history of the NFL has been subjected to. This is what he had coming to him for doing what he did.

I'm in no way agreeing with the punishment but it's what is laid out in the CBA. A piece of shit like Kareem Hunt that beats women got what 2 games? Calvin got a season for putting in a couple parley cards. Now you can argue that the punishments don't fit the crimes and that's absolutely fair. But if people want this changed it's all on the shoulders of the players to change it in the CBA. Until then Calvin got exactly what he should have based on the CBA.

Hard ass…

 

[Flint]

I suppose that's possible.

But IMO you invite this kind of thing by having an archaic policy.

Would make more sense to allow them to bet on any game they don't play in and create an easy way for them to do so, and one the NFL can easily audit. That way they can have some measure of control.

All an NFL player has to do now is hand a friend some cash and have them place the bet, and there is nothing the league can do to stop it.

A player has intimate knowledge of his own team and that knowledge could give him an advantage. How often is a “game day decision” actually been decided days before?
It’s still going to be really hard to monitor, the only reason this guy got caught is that he’s a dope. On the other hand who wants to get suspended cuz your friend who bets for you is a dope.

 

[lordbannon]

Wow, so he loses $11 million from his 5th year option the Falcons exercised already to bet on a few games... that's one expensive fuck up. Wonder if the Falcons get screwed and still have to eat that cap hit? Does his 5th year option get bumped a year? Does he come out of his suspension a free agent? Weird circumstance.

Looks like the Falcons are off the hook for the contract. I'm guessing because it happened before the start of the league year? No idea on whether he comes out a free agent, or the 5th year is just pushed back to 2023.

 

[Psycho_X]

Now you can argue that the punishments don't fit the crimes and that's absolutely fair.

it's all on the shoulders of the players to change it in the CBA. Until then Calvin got exactly what he should have based on the CBA.

These two points in a nutshell.

The embarrassing part for the NFL is the constant points being made throughout media and social media that it's hard to see the year suspension next to the miniscule suspensions domestic abusers get right next to each other. The NFL needs to fix that shit.

Also, Ridley gets a year for making some simple bets when he wasn't playing... what does the Dolphins and Browns owners get for offering/paying cash to their coaches to lose on purpose? Owners need to be held to the same standard if the NFL is going to try and act like they care about the integrity of their game.

 

[Tano]

These two points in a nutshell.

The embarrassing part for the NFL is the constant points being made throughout media and social media that it's hard to see the year suspension next to the miniscule suspensions domestic abusers get right next to each other. The NFL needs to fix that shit.

Also, Ridley gets a year for making some simple bets when he wasn't playing... what does the Dolphins and Browns owners get for offering/paying cash to their coaches to lose on purpose? Owners need to be held to the same standard if the NFL is going to try and act like they care about the integrity of their game.

Oh the owners should be forced to sell their teams if it comes out that is exactly what happened.

Hard to prove though if it is one person's word against another.

 

[ottoman89]

I don't really have a problem with it. He was gambling while he wasn't playing, and wasn't gambling on his team.

Unless I'm totally missing something.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Goodell talking about how there is nothing more important than upholding the integrity of the game.

Somewhere Belicheat is chuckling.

 

[blackbart]

So it’s OK with the league to be in bed with the gambling money makers but the players can’t bet on games?

There are reasons they should be separate, there should be no involvement with the league.

They should lose their tax status, they are entertain, right? Who bets on that???

 

[OldSchool]

I've said since the very first report that if it's proven true Ross tried to pay Flores to lose he should lose his team.

 

[RamFan503]

View: https://twitter.com/CalvinRidley1/status/1500939522632302594?s=20&t=JqgqbrUSUPnbwDX_M_GiBQ

So did he bet 1500 that he doesn't have a gambling problem? Or did he bet 1500. AND doesn't have a gambling problem?

Either way... boo fucking hoo.

You're a highly paid athlete. You signed a contract that EVERY player knows says you can't gamble on NFL games. And yet you still throw $1500 that you yourself deem insignificant. YOU HAVE A FUCKING GAMBLING PROBLEM! That or you're just so fucking stupid you shouldn't be getting paid in the first place. FFS you can gamble on practically anything these days and you have to gamble on the ONE thing that will get you kicked out of the league.

Here's your sign.

Yeah... All this apologist BS excusing his actions is pure horseshit. You can argue with the rule itself. But just stop with defending the guy. And I'm not saying you @TK42-RAM are defending him by posting his tweet.

 

[TK42-RAM]

So did he bet 1500 that he doesn't have a gambling problem? Or did he bet 1500. AND doesn't have a gambling problem?

Either way... boo fucking hoo.

You're a highly paid athlete. You signed a contract that EVERY player knows says you can't gamble on NFL games. And yet you still throw $1500 that you yourself deem insignificant. YOU HAVE A FUCKING GAMBLING PROBLEM! That or you're just so fucking stupid you shouldn't be getting paid in the first place. FFS you can gamble on practically anything these days and you have to gamble on the ONE thing that will get you kicked out of the league.

Here's your sign.

Yeah... All this apologist BS excusing his actions is pure horseshit. You can argue with the rule itself. But just stop with defending the guy. And I'm not saying you @TK42-RAM are defending him by posting his tweet.

All good. I agree, if you sign an NFL contract and one of the provisions of receiving payment is to not gamble on games… well don’t do it, otherwise you leave yourself open to losing big.

I just found it amusing he would tweet I bet I don’t have a gambling problem.

 

[majrleaged]

I had to lol when I read the article in the OP... Goodell goes on about "protecting the integrity of the league/game". That's the laughable part unfortunately.

"Refereeing is the exception" he said under his breath with his fingers crossed

 

[Selassie I]

For anyone who is truly wondering why he shouldn't be banned from betting since he wasn't actually playing...

Guys, it's called inside intel. He can pick up the phone and talk to other players on his team and players on other teams. These guys have friends all over the league. The inside info he could gain alone makes it very easy to see why they cannot be allowed to bet.

I'm not even going to get into the MANY other reasons why... that one is enough... but there are MANY more.

He's a fucking idiot. You can't fix stupid, and being stupid isn't an acceptable excuse.

 

[ottoman89]

For anyone who is truly wondering why he shouldn't be banned from betting since he wasn't actually playing...

Guys, it's called inside intel. He can pick up the phone and talk to other players on his team and players on other teams. These guys have friends all over the league. The inside info he could gain alone makes it very easy to see why they cannot be allowed to bet.

I'm not even going to get into the MANY other reasons why... that one is enough... but there are MANY more.

He's a fucking idiot. You can't fix stupid, and being stupid isn't an acceptable excuse.

Never thought of him having "insider trading" ability. You make a great point about inside Intel.

My mind has changed. Fuck that guy!

 

[Dxmissile]

I'm not disputing that, but I've read a metric shit ton of people portraying Calvin as a victim. He knew the rules, or he and his agent are idiots if he didn't, and he broke the rules. This is the punishment that every person in the history of the NFL has been subjected to. This is what he had coming to him for doing what he did.

I'm in no way agreeing with the punishment but it's what is laid out in the CBA. A piece of shit like Kareem Hunt that beats women got what 2 games? Calvin got a season for putting in a couple parley cards. Now you can argue that the punishments don't fit the crimes and that's absolutely fair. But if people want this changed it's all on the shoulders of the players to change it in the CBA. Until then Calvin got exactly what he should have based on the CBA.

I agree. The rules are the rules they just need to make that rule more specific unfortunately for him he’s the example right now.

 

[Memento]

And people wonder why Pete Rose is banned for life and ineligible for the baseball HOF.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Ridley.

 

[Dxmissile]

For anyone who is truly wondering why he shouldn't be banned from betting since he wasn't actually playing...

Guys, it's called inside intel. He can pick up the phone and talk to other players on his team and players on other teams. These guys have friends all over the league. The inside info he could gain alone makes it very easy to see why they cannot be allowed to bet.

I'm not even going to get into the MANY other reasons why... that one is enough... but there are MANY more.

He's a fucking idiot. You can't fix stupid, and being stupid isn't an acceptable excuse.

Lol inside intel. He played in the nfl long enough to have inside Intell this isn’t like the stock market where buying and selling have a direct influence on stock prices. The guy was away from the team not at practices on his own time. This isn’t like Pete rose betting on games he played in.

The rules are the rules and he got what the rules said he should have got. But acting like it’s some big conspiracy and insider trading is crazy

 

[Ram65]

NFL betting rules, explained: Why Calvin Ridley was suspended indefinitely for gambling | Sporting News

Why the NFL suspended Calvin Ridley for the season after it was found he was illegally betting on NFL games.

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NFL betting rules, explained: Why Calvin Ridley was suspended indefinitely for gambling​

Kevin Skiver
7 hours ago•4 min read

The NFL leveled a shocking punishment on Monday, suspending Falcons wide receiver Calvin Ridley for at least the upcoming 2022 season for betting on NFL games. Ridley, who missed much of last season to focus on his mental health, was reportedly being shopped to other teams before the punishment was announced. Now, however, the calculus of his status with the Falcons has changed.
Players betting on games is an egregious offense, not matter what magnitude. But, how is the infraction addressed officially by the NFL?
The Sporting News digs into the weeds.

What rule did Calvin Ridley break?​

The NFL rulebook has very plain terms regarding NFL personnel betting on games. Per the NFL's gambling policy from NFL Communications, Section 2 states that:

NFL Personnel are restricted or prohibited from engaging in the following gambling-related activities, regardless of whether such activities are legal:
1. Betting on Football: All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating any bet, whether directly or indirectly through a third-party, on any NFL game, practice or other event. This includes betting on game outcome, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, or any other kind of “proposition bet” on which wagering is offered.

MORE: Calvin Ridley gambling suspension, explained: Falcons WR banned indefinitely for betting on NFL games
The handbook goes on to state NFL personnel are prohibited from gambling on any professional or amateur sporting event, while also discussing breakout issues from gambling on games such as shaving points or fixing games.
As far as Ridley's punishment goes, that was put under subjective determination. Per Section 7:

Apparent or alleged violations of this Policy by NFL Personnel will continue to be decided by the Commissioner or his designee on a case-by-case basis. Violations of this Policy constitute conduct detrimental to the League and will subject the involved Club and/or person(s) to appropriate disciplinary action by the Commissioner. Such disciplinary action may include, without limitation, severe penalties, up to and including a fine, termination of employment and/or banishment from the NFL for life.

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While Ridley's indiscretions don't appear to constitute a lifetime ban, given that he was away from the league when they occurred, his fate in the NFL is now at the mercy of the 32 teams. While the NFL is encouraging gambling for fans, it's clear that gambling on games by players is still being handled with the utmost seriousness.
Although Ridley could technically be reinstated after this season if the NFL believes the wide receiver has served enough time without further recourse, GMs around the league may have a hard time giving him a chance. Certainly, his trade value has plummeted.

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According to this article, there is no exact punishment for the gambling violation.

I wouldn't be upset if he appealed and got an 8 game suspension. If he ends up getting the season 16 game suspension so be it.

He was sitting out for mental health issues that should be considered.