Bradford requests a trade, wont participate, will he retire?

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They already knew they were trading two starters to move up to #8 from #13 though. It just hadn't been announced yet. At the time they didn't know the QBs would be going in the top two picks - a lot thought there was a chance to grab one around 4-6. They were definitely positioning themselves, even if it weren't a sure thing. And the loss of two veterans, including their best RB, was important too.

Well, they were negotiating with him in late February, and I don't know how reasonable it was to expect assurances or commitments about their "plans" in the draft two months from then. Especially if the player is going to balk at them trying for a prospect they might not even get.
 

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Well, they were negotiating with him in late February, and I don't know how reasonable it was to expect assurances or commitments about their "plans" in the draft two months from then. Especially if the player is going to balk at them trying for a prospect they might not even get.

IOW, they were considering trying to go way up in the draft and get a guy they'd want to start this year, and decided not to let Bradford know that, instead having him think after talking with them that while they'd draft somebody, it wasn't going to be an elite prospect but a developmental guy. Which is why he's upset now.
 

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Its possible, but the Jets are STOKED about Hackenburg and see him as the future.
Sam is going to have to suck it up and realize that wherever he goes, he's a short term fix unless he kills it.

The Jets' fascination with Hackenburg won't last long once they see him live and in action.

One thing folks aren't mentioning here with Sam is the impact on the roster. ALL the other guys on the roster compete and are used to fighting for their jobs. Dude has placed an enormous primadonna label on himself for no reason. So dumb.

As I said, his agent is failing hard. He should have kept Sam from going down that path. Slapped him upside his head and told him he's going to go in there and make them play him. Agents aren't just about wringing the most money they can out of owners; they also have a responsibility to the player and his individual brand.
 

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IOW, they were considering trying to go way up in the draft and get a guy they'd want to start this year, and decided not to let Bradford know that, instead having him think after talking with them that while they'd draft somebody, it wasn't going to be an elite prospect but a developmental guy. Which is why he's upset now.

I doubt any team is completely forthright about their draft plans, especially when they're trying to lure in free agents. Every draft pick is a potential replacement for someone on the roster.

I could see him being upset if it was a condition of his signing that the job would be his alone, or they promised him they wouldn't take a QB early in the draft. But it seems unlikely either of those things happened.
 

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I'm liking Bradford less and less. I still think he can be a decent QB, but it seems that guy is money hungry and hasn't done shit to earn that kind of money. I'd probably take Fitzpatrick over Bradford lol!
Glad he's no longer with us.
 

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I'm liking Bradford less and less. I still think he can be a decent QB, but it seems that guy is money hungry and hasn't done crap to earn that kind of money. I'd probably take Fitzpatrick over Bradford lol!
Glad he's no longer with us.
And to add to the money hungry comment, we saw this last year when he would not take a paycut.
 

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The Jets' fascination with Hackenburg won't last long once they see him live and in action.

One thing folks aren't mentioning here with Sam is the impact on the roster. ALL the other guys on the roster compete and are used to fighting for their jobs. Dude has placed an enormous primadonna label on himself for no reason. So dumb.

As I said, his agent is failing hard. He should have kept Sam from going down that path. Slapped him upside his head and told him he's going to go in there and make them play him. Agents aren't just about wringing the most money they can out of owners; they also have a responsibility to the player and his individual brand.


Bradford could have become a FA in a couple of days rather than signing the TWO year deal that allows the Eagles to cut him after one year with little cap pain. I suspect he did that because there was little if any interest in Bradford from anyone.

After Bradford got mad about the Eagles making a move in the draft the Broncos called.......and that went nowhere.

Nobody else seems to want him.

Calling for a trade when you have been injured a ton and have little to nothing on your resume and there is essentially no other team interested in having you is silly and remarkably foolish. It just makes him look like a dumbass.

He'll be a backup after next season and probably out of the NFL a couple of years after that.
 

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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Bradfords-agent-There-is-no-real-competition.html

Bradford's agent: 'There is no real competition'

Updated: May 3, 2016 — 11:28 AM EDT

by Les Bowen, STAFF WRITER @LesBowen


Tom Condon, agent for Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford, spoke last Thursday to Andrew Brandt, a former agent and front office executive for NFL teams, including the Eagles, on Brandt's "Business of Sports" podcast, available at RossTucker.com.

Condon mostly reiterated points he made in a few interviews granted when he made public his request that Bradford be traded, a little more than a week ago. But Condon showed that he was aware of criticism of Bradford for not being willing to compete for the starting job with rookie Carson Wentz, whom the Eagles traded up to draft second overall last week.

"Clearly, if Sam's in the locker room, all of the other players -- the players always know what's going on -- ... they know that Sam's a short-term guy, and he's just there until the rookie is ready to go. So that's not a particularly favorable situation for (Bradford). And I know people say, 'Why doesn't he just compete and win the job?' There is no real competition" with a QB drafted so high, that a team had to expend extra resources to acquire, Condon said. "He's playing, and that's all there is to it.

"Ideally, (Bradford) would get to go someplace and establish himself and be there for some lengthy period of time. That certainly isn't going to be in Philadelphia."

The Eagles have said Bradford is their starting quarterback this season. They would like to be competitive while giving Wentz plenty of time to adjust to the NFL -- he started just 23 games in college, all at the FCS level.

Brandt probed more than previous interviewers have into what Condon and Bradford were told by the Eagles when they signed Bradford's two-year, $35 million contract back at the beginning of March. That deal will pay $18 million this season.


"Certainly, the fervor that they pursued Sam (with), in terms of trying to get something done prior to the time free agency occurred would give you reason to believe that they valued Sam," Condon said. "Certainly, the dollar amount and the guarantee amount (indicated) they were committed to Sam as their starting quarterback. Somewhere in there, things changed, based on their evaluation of what they thought was potentially available in the longterm plans for the franchise."

Condon did not say Bradford was told he would be the longterm starter.

Condon reiterated that Bradford will not appear at voluntary workouts, which resume May 17 for veterans. (However, the podcast was recorded just before last week's draft, in which the prime possible Bradford destination, Denver, traded up to take quarterback Paxton Lynch in the first round. So we don't know for certain that position still holds. Condon has not responded to requests for comment from the Daily News.)

Condon said he would "hold off" on saying whether he would give back part or all of Bradford's $11 million signing bonus to gain his freedom.

Condon said dealing with fan outrage over Bradfford's desire to leave the Eagles is "not terribly pleasant," but he would do "whatever's required to get the result that's best for the client."

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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20160504_Sielski__Eagles__QB_theory_is_phony.html
Sielski: Eagles' QB theory is phony
Updated: May 3, 2016 — 2:39 PM EDT
by Mike Sielski, INQUIRER COLUMNIST

The Eagles' strategy to manage their quarterback situation for 2016 sounds wonderful in theory, as long as you ignore the phony promise at its core.

Their theory is this: Once Sam Bradford wises up and realizes that the franchise will not trade him and that he has no leverage to force it to, he will have no choice but to report for training camp. At that time, the Eagles will, as head coach Doug Pederson told reporters after last week's NFL draft, "welcome [him] with open arms. . . . He's the leader of this football team." Then, the real work can begin. Bradford will be the starter. Carson Wentz will be the eager apprentice/franchise quarterback-in-waiting. And Chase Daniel will be the savvy, unselfish backup who understands Pederson's offense so well that he can tutor the other two guys.

Not surprisingly, Bradford (as you may have heard) hasn't been accepting of this seashells-and-balloons scenario, probably because he can recognize the false premises underpinning it. After signing Bradford to a two-year contract worth $22 million in guaranteed money, after paying him not like a placeholder but a quality quarterback who might turn out to be their long-term starter, the Eagles gave up two starting players and three draft picks over two trades so they could draft Wentz with the No. 2 overall pick. They have since maintained that they will take their time developing Wentz, that the 1999 season - when Pederson was their stopgap starter and fulltime mentor to Donovan McNabb - will be their model, and that it's still possible for Bradford to fend off Wentz and retain the starting job for years to come.

"It's going to be a dynamic [quarterbacks] room," Pederson said. "There's going to be some competition in there, which is great."

As far as Bradford's concerned, though, the room's atmosphere will be great only if he has a genuine opportunity to be the Eagles' No. 1 quarterback for a while. And he doesn't, not really. Not only does the stockpile of resources that the Eagles relinquished for Wentz increase the pressure on the team to play him (and on him to play well), but giving Bradford a full season as the starter would be an anomaly in the modern NFL. It would require a measure of patience that the Eagles could afford in 1999 but that most teams don't display anymore.

Let's start with that 17-year-old template. The Eagles had gone 3-13 in 1998, earning the No. 2 pick in the '99 draft on merit, and the quarterback position was the greatest weakness of a bad football team. So they signed Pederson and drafted McNabb, and new coach Andy Reid eased in McNabb, giving him snaps in five games before finally starting him in Week 10. Reid could take that tack largely because, unlike Bradford, Pederson had not signed with the expectation that he himself might emerge as the Eagles' definitive answer at quarterback. He would play until Reid decided it was time for McNabb to play, and even a 10-week wait was too long for much of the team's fan base. Ask Reid sometime about his daily walk from his car to his office at Veterans Stadium and what people would scream at him about Pederson along the way.

If anything, the team's fans will be less patient with Bradford now than they were with Pederson then; fairly or unfairly, many of them perceive Bradford as a malcontented wuss who doesn't want to fight for his job. (That perception is unfair, actually, but that's a separate column.) But there's another key factor at work here: the trend against keeping a highly drafted quarterback on the sideline.

Over the last 10 NFL drafts (excluding this year's, of course), 25 quarterbacks were selected in the first round. Of those 25, 15 started for their teams in Week 1, and 21 started before their rookie seasons were half finished. Of the 14 who were top 10 picks, 11 started in Week 1, and 13 started by Week 5.

Of the 11 quarterbacks who were drafted first, second, or third overall - the category into which Wentz would fall - nine started in Week 1. Nine. The Eagles can pay lip service to letting Wentz learn by watching, but the conventional wisdom these days is that real live NFL action is the great winnower, the most reliable and rigorous training ground for young quarterbacks, and the earlier a player is exposed to it, the better. And remember: The Eagles just fired a head coach who liked to thumb his nose at conventional wisdom.

Even some of the trend's exceptions are instructive. In 2007, for instance, the Cleveland Browns drafted Brady Quinn with the No. 22 overall pick, but since Derek Anderson threw for 3,787 yards and 29 touchdowns and led the Browns to a 10-6 record, Quinn didn't attempt a pass until the team's season finale. That situation would seem to parallel the Eagles' best-case expectation for 2016. Bradford excels. Wentz sits. The Eagles win a bunch of games. Yards Brawlers all around.

Here's the glitch: The Browns also had the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft, and they used it on offensive tackle Joe Thomas. They could have taken Quinn then and didn't, which means they hadn't invested nearly as much in him as the Eagles have in Wentz, which means the urgency to play him wasn't nearly as high, which means Sam Bradford has to know what's coming if he stays here. He'll be leading this football team from the bench, and right soon.


msielski@phillynews.com

NOTE: ITALICS SECTIONS WERE ADDED BY ME FOR EMPHASIS.
 

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"Ideally, (Bradford) would get to go someplace and establish himself and be there for some lengthy period of time. That certainly isn't going to be in Philadelphia."

Condon is making himself look bad to other potential clients here..........this is a bad move on his part.
 

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Even some of the trend's exceptions are instructive. In 2007, for instance, the Cleveland Browns drafted Brady Quinn with the No. 22 overall pick, but since Derek Anderson threw for 3,787 yards and 29 touchdowns and led the Browns to a 10-6 record, Quinn didn't attempt a pass until the team's season finale. That situation would seem to parallel the Eagles' best-case expectation for 2016. Bradford excels. Wentz sits. The Eagles win a bunch of games. Yards Brawlers all around.

Here's the glitch: The Browns also had the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft, and they used it on offensive tackle Joe Thomas. They could have taken Quinn then and didn't, which means they hadn't invested nearly as much in him as the Eagles have in Wentz, which means the urgency to play him wasn't nearly as high

Well, that wasn't it. Quinn, popular among fans as a homegrown talent, missed the first two weeks of training camp and put him behind the curve for good. Browns traded their starting QB after one game , and Anderson bought himself a three year contract with his performance in 2007. Of course, it didn't last.


Over the last 10 NFL drafts (excluding this year's, of course), 25 quarterbacks were selected in the first round. Of those 25, 15 started for their teams in Week 1, and 21 started before their rookie seasons were half finished. Of the 14 who were top 10 picks, 11 started in Week 1, and 13 started by Week 5.

Of the 11 quarterbacks who were drafted first, second, or third overall - the category into which Wentz would fall - nine started in Week 1.

I'm curious who these QBs were supplanting. Generally teams are drafting a QB in the top 3 because they don't have a viable starter. Eagles did have one already.
 

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Condon is making himself look bad to other potential clients here..........this is a bad move on his part.

Did you read the second article just above you? Players will see how he looks after their best interest. The Eagles are playing wentz sooner or later. History says sooner. Sam is finished there.

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Did you read the second article just above you? Players will see how he looks after their best interest. The Eagles are playing wentz sooner or later. History says sooner. Sam is finished there.

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I read it yes.

Condon is covering his own ass IMO.

He worked with the Eagles to put together a deal for just two years which allows the Eagles to cut Bradford after one year with little cap damage. Then, rather than advising his client, a QB, to test the market in a QB starved sport he has him sign the deal and he gets his commission.

Now he sees that he made a mistake and he is rattling his saber to help cover up his dumbass move.

Although a case could be made that he did a good job for Bradford since there was essentially zero interest and most people think PHIL overpaid.
 

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I'm curious who these QBs were supplanting. Generally teams are drafting a QB in the top 3 because they don't have a viable starter. Eagles did have one already.

Pretty much what I thought. High draft picks are replacing fringe starters. Some good QBs in the bunch, but Jake Plummer(Cutler) and Daunte Culpepper(Stafford) were right at the end of their careers. Matt Hasselbeck(Locker) and K Warner(Leinart) got a raw deal.

I wouldn't make an even comparison of playing rookie QBs on this one.
 

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It might be the first time in a while that every team is pretty much set at QB(for now).

AFC east:
Bills- They have Tyrod Taylor and just drafted a QB.
Dolphins- Ryan Tannehill but maybe they look for something different if he continues to be mediocre.
Jets- Most likely landing spot for Bradford. But he won't have a future with Hackenburg there.
Patriots- Interesting situation but they'll never trade for his salary for a possible 4 game rental. But who knows how long Brady has.

North:
Steelers- Big Ben still has a few years left but not sure who they have behind him. Laundry Jones wasn't bad last year. Don't think it's a good landing spot.
Bengals- Dalton is still young and they have AJ McCarron who I think will be a very good QB.
Ravens- Joe Flacco is coming off a torn ACL and they have Matt Shaub as a back up. It's possible for the future but doubtful with his salary.
Browns- I mean, anything is possible with the factory of sadness. And basically would be the definition of Bradfords career to end up here.

South:
Colts- Nada. Luck is a 10 year starter.
Texans- Osweiler is an unknown at this point but they surrounded him with tons of weapons. Wouldn't be a bad fit but I think they've invested too much with Brock.
Titans- Mariota is a lifer
Jaguars- Man. Looking at this division, there's a bunch of young studly QBs. I fucking love Blake Bortles. No dice here.

West:
Broncos- Would have been a perfect fit but they'll start Sanchez this year and just drafted Paxton Lynch. Nada.
Chargers- Another interesting situation. If Bradford plays well this year, anything is possible with Rivers most likely retiring soon. But not for this year.
Chiefs- Alex Smith is 32 and hasn't done much in the playoffs. They got rid of Chase Daniels so this may be a landing spot in the future.
Raiders- Derek Carr is the future with trade bait in Connor Cook.

NFC East:
Cowboys- Romo has maybe one or two years left. And I doubt the fifth rounder will be a future starter. Jerry Jones has done crazier things so he possibly ends up here. Just not this year.
Eagles- Yes, I'm still putting them here. He's a one year rental to them and that's being generous. But if he plays well enough then there may be a trade with either Wentz or Bradford in the future.
Giants- Manning is an iron man and this isn't a realistic spot to land.
Redskins- Unless Cousins falls off the face of the earth, Bradford won't go here.

North:
Packers- Absolutely no chance.
Lions- Stafford needs to prove himself this year. If he doesn't show he can lead the team to the playoffs I believe they will start looking elsewhere. Just not this year.
Bears- This is actually a possiblility. Cutler had his best year last season but hasn't been able to lead them to the playoffs very often. Don't be surprised if he ends up here next year.
Vikings- Bridgewater is young and getting better. Nada.

South:
Falcons: Matt Ryan is a lifer.
Saints: Drew Brees has a few good years left but a possible future landing.
Buccaneers: The crab leg stealer resides here for a long time.
Panthers: Nope.

West:
Rams- Hahahahahaha. No.
49ers- If both Krapernick and Gabbert blow chunks this year I can see Bradford landing here.
Seahawks- Wittle Wussell is a lifer.
Cardinals- I can see him going here next year. Palmer might have one more season left.

So basically, Bradford needs to shut the fuck and play this year. Because he isn't needed anywhere else at the moment. I smell an early retirement.
 

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Browns- I mean, anything is possible with the factory of sadness. And basically would be the definition of Bradfords career to end up here.

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Best landing spot is the New York Jets because Hackenburg is shit, in fact, he's worse than shit, he is where flies go after they've been on shit all day.
 

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Philly Restaurant Finds Brand New Way to Troll Sam Bradford

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Sam Bradford is not very well-liked in Philly right now. With his whine-fest still going on, Eagles fans are quickly growing tired of his antics and want him off the team immediately, despite the front office sticking by the QB.

Of course, when you're hated in Philadelphia, the locals find amazing and innovative ways to troll you in every single way possible. Now, a local restaurant has perhaps found the best way to do so.

Introducing the Sam Bradford Sandwich.


View: https://twitter.com/nickbrown3204/status/727551290620960768

The tantalizing sandwich was made by Drew Abruzzese, owner of Big Q BBQ in Levittown. It consists of some pulled pork, a piece of fried chicken, fried jalapeños, spicy Philly cream cheese, and cheddar spread all on a potato roll.

Abruzzese explained that each ingredient represents Bradford in some way. The pulled pork because he's "going to get pulled", the jalapeños because he's "on the hot seat", and it's all on a potato roll because he can "go down like a sack of potatoes".

The sandwich will be given away to the first 150 customers that order it. After that, it will be $5 until Bradford gets traded. It will then be sold for $7, a fitting tribute to Bradford's number.

However, there is still no guarantee that Howie Roseman trades Bradford, and at this point, I think a lot of Philly fans would even be alright with this deal.

http://www.circasports.com/posts/31...and-new-way-to-troll-sam-bradford?a_aid=40219
 

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Bradford was brought in under Chip Kelly's umbrella. Chip's gone. It's Pederson's umbrella now. I don't see how anyone can blame Philly here.