Bonsignore: Jeff Fisher cost Rams a chance to win, but he won’t admit it

[tbux]

When his fakes worked in the past, he was a genius, when this one failed he is the worst coach ever. I liked the call myself. D was gassed and I didn't see a 3 and out coming and a 80+ yd drive with no timeouts. JMO

 

[Bruce2980]

I actually think a better player can get those yards...Bradley Marquez is a waste of roster space...we should have had Green or Brown or Chase taking that snap....

Or, Bradley coulda threw it to Hill when his man left to make the tackle...

But Fisher knows he blew a winnable game...again...just start a better QB...would have had a great 4:00 min drive...

I'm not convinced that "Fisher knew that HE blew a winnable game." I believe that he may really believe that the players lost that game all by themselves.

I like the idea of Bradley throwing to Hill, if the run wasn't there, a well thought out play would have options like that and those options would have been practiced by a really good coaching staff. If you are in a do or die situation, field position and time on the clock be damned, cause we are going for a fake, even if no one is faked out, then options on the fake punt would be a nice thing IMHO.

 

[Bruce2980]

The d was stopping the run very well when they stacked the box, and in the second half. There were 4 minutes left in the game, Donald said the rotation was fine, which tells me he wasn't ready to get of the field. If a TD was that important then the last series in the red zone would have been a better time to get it, cause I agree, Fisher had little faith in his o to drive the length of the field. Better, more aggressive play calling on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down would also have been better than a fake, but not too much of a fake, fake punt IMHO.

 

[Bruce2980]

Austin in the backfield would raise 11 red flags all at once, IMO.

Kinda like Brown going in motion? Or did that only raise 10 flags?

 

[tavian]

LOL.Just saying.The guy appears to be a straight shooter.
No B.S. Possitive and Negative.Not a bad looking dude.lol

 

[-X-]

LOL.Just saying.The guy appears to be a straight shooter.
No B.S. Possitive and Negative.

Yeah, he's alright. I've got no problem with his work.

 

[Bruce2980]

But on a fake punt, you have to run it like it's a real punt. Which means, as the gunner, he's supposed to ... gun.
Still wanna see how that action unfolded on that side, but I can't until they put the all-22 out.

You can only run it like a real punt if the other team is fooled, with the motion I knew it was a possible fake punt, that's why I said, "Oh hell no are you for real, your not really dumb enough to fake this punt that after you telegraphed it are you Fisher?" Was I the only one to think that?
I bet the Bills were thinking "Oh hell yes, we've been practicing for this the whole week!"

 

[Jacobarch]

You can only run it like a real punt if the other team is fooled, with the motion I knew it was a possible fake punt, that's why I said, "Oh hell no are you for real, your not really dumb enough to fake this punt that after you telegraphed it are you Fisher?" Was I the only one to think that?
I bet the Bills were thinking "Oh hell yes, we've been practicing for this the whole week!"

I dunno about all of that, but to call a fake punt within your own 20? That's the bonehead call to me. Fake punts work and don't work, that's not the problem. It's the position he the team after that bonehead call.

 

[RaminExile]

When his fakes worked in the past, he was a genius, when this one failed he is the worst coach ever. I liked the call myself. D was gassed and I didn't see a 3 and out coming and a 80+ yd drive with no timeouts. JMO

This is it isn't it. Would we be calling him out if its a first down we go and win the game?

I think yes. It was a terrible call.

 

[tavian]

When his fakes worked in the past, he was a genius, when this one failed he is the worst coach ever. I liked the call myself. D was gassed and I didn't see a 3 and out coming and a 80+ yd drive with no timeouts. JMO

Disagree.This was a bad call all the way around.If we make it I'm still shaking my head.He essentially
put the game on the line with that one play.Defense was playing well up to that point.Too much time
on the clock for that kind of desperation play.We have the best punter in the game and timeouts.
The biggest problem I have with it is the finger pointing. What Fisher did in the press conference was
absolutely classless.JMHO

 

[tbux]

This is it isn't it. Would we be calling him out if its a first down we go and win the game?

I think yes. It was a terrible call.

I couldn't disagree more- if we converted and then scored, I assure you everyone would be praising him- like they did in 2012 in similar situation.

 

[tbux]

Disagree.This was a bad call all the way around.If we make it I'm still shaking my head.He essentially
put the game on the line with that one play.Defense was playing well up to that point.Too much time
on the clock for that kind of desperation play.We have the best punter in the game and timeouts.
The biggest problem I have with it is the finger pointing. What Fisher did in the press conference was
absolutely classless.JMHO

Tell me why you think we would have forced a 3 and out and then drove the length of the field with no time outs because I didn't see anything that pointed to that happening IMO. He tried to give the team momentum and a spark because the O was looking terrible at the end. The D was gassed, and you see that on last drive with McCoy gashing us. I think he tried to make something happen- and it didn't work. I don't have issues with the call myself. I can see why many do, but I actually was thinking we needed to try something different. I actually disliked the FG more than that call. JMO

 

[Pancake]

I wouldn't be so upset over the call if the team hadn't just been sitting inside the opponents 10 and taken a field goal. At least if the Rams go for the TD and fail they still have the bills pinned deep with a chance for a safety or a punt giving good field position. Faking the punt on his own 25 and failing leaves zero chance for a win.

 

[Bruce2980]

I dunno about all of that, but to call a fake punt within your own 20? That's the bonehead call to me. Fake punts work and don't work, that's not the problem. It's the position he the team after that bonehead call.

I agree, and I would bet that fake punts with motion prior to the fake punt don't work as often as a fake punt without motion, to me it is about surprising and fooling the other team that increases the odds of any play working. Just saying.

 

[tavian]

Tell me why you think we would have forced a 3 and out and then drove the length of the field with no time outs because I didn't see anything that pointed to that happening IMO. He tried to give the team momentum and a spark because the O was looking terrible at the end. The D was gassed, and you see that on last drive with McCoy gashing us. I think he tried to make something happen- and it didn't work. I don't have issues with the call myself. I can see why many do, but I actually was thinking we needed to try something different. I actually disliked the FG more than that call. JMO

Just think the odds of forcing a 3 and out were pretty good considering how the game was going.
Risking giving them the ball at what?20 -25 yd line.wherever it was was just too big of a risk
for me at that point in the game.Just how I see it.You could certainly make an argument either way.
That's just how I saw it.

 

[tbux]

Just think the odds of forcing a 3 and out were pretty good considering how the game was going.
Risking giving them the ball at what?20 -25 yd line.wherever it was was just too big of a risk
for me at that point in the game.Just how I see it.You could certainly make an argument either way.
That's just how I saw it.

I see your point too- but I think the D was gassed more than most think. Remember 3 of those guys played WAY more mins than usual. Last drive McCoy gashed them and more than likely does same if we punt it away. We needed to change momentum and it simply didn't work. I just don't hate the call as much as most.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Tell me why you think we would have forced a 3 and out and then drove the length of the field with no time outs because I didn't see anything that pointed to that happening IMO. He tried to give the team momentum and a spark because the O was looking terrible at the end. The D was gassed, and you see that on last drive with McCoy gashing us. I think he tried to make something happen- and it didn't work. I don't have issues with the call myself. I can see why many do, but I actually was thinking we needed to try something different. I actually disliked the FG more than that call. JMO

Absolutely this! Also, something has to be said about timing. He was trying to catch the other team off guard. You can only do that when the other team isn't expecting it. They would (just like everyone did) expect it inside the 10 when we took that FG. Way less expected (but still makes some sense as you outlined) so he pulled the trigger. It didn't work out, and that sucks but I was fine with it.

And the reality is that the call didn't lose us that game. Our offense still has to go and score a touchdown through the air, which it didn't do all game.

 

[Bruce2980]

Tell me why you think we would have forced a 3 and out and then drove the length of the field with no time outs because I didn't see anything that pointed to that happening IMO. He tried to give the team momentum and a spark because the O was looking terrible at the end. The D was gassed, and you see that on last drive with McCoy gashing us. I think he tried to make something happen- and it didn't work. I don't have issues with the call myself. I can see why many do, but I actually was thinking we needed to try something different. I actually disliked the FG more than that call. JMO

Our defense held the Bills to how many points in the second half prior to the fake punt? Was it 3? The Rams D forced several 3 and outs like four or five in a row. How many TDs did Keenum miss on previous drives? One to Quick and one to Austin? Why not try again? There were opportunities on the offense, but I agree Fisher had no faith in his offense. No balls to throw it into the end zone when in the red zone four separate times, that's more than 12 plays and not one attempt to throw a jump ball to a 6'3" WR. Really? He could have been more aggressive in play calling prior to the fake, run, run, pass completion in front of the sticks on third down, really. That's the best these coaches could come up with on a game winning drive? I was really disappointed with that entire series of play calls. JM2cents.

 

[tbux]

Our defense held the Bills to how many points in the second half prior to the fake punt? Was it 3? The Rams D forced several 3 and outs like four or five in a row. How many TDs did Keenum miss on previous drives? One to Quick and one to Austin? Why not try again? There were opportunities on the offense, but I agree Fisher had no faith in his offense. No balls to throw it into the end zone when in the red zone four separate times, that's more than 12 plays and not one attempt to throw a jump ball to a 6'3" WR. Really? He could have been more aggressive in play calling prior to the fake, run, run, pass completion in front of the sticks on third down, really. That's the best these coaches could come up with on a game winning drive? I was really disappointed with that entire series of play calls. JM2cents.

Fisher doesn't call the plays. Blame Boras for the red zone calls.

and you see how gassed the D was on last drive. Fisher knew this and didn't want to assume we could go 3 and out because we prob wouldn't have. McCoy gashed us. They were tired.