Biorock aka Coral Viagra

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Dude i see you working
So now you're trying to bait me? Is that adhering to this sites rules? I refuse to play your game and will continue to post within the rules that which I find interesting until told otherwise.
 

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Apparently your goal is to get this thread locked? This is the Biorock thread not the Alex Jones thread.
I’m commenting on the comment of Alex Jones. So if anybody comments anything previous that’s bad? Don’t bring me into your I got a bigger e-peen argument. Calm your tits!

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I believe all Fake Posts should be deleted.

Until alternitive facts prove them not to be fake posts.
 

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I believe all Fake Posts should be deleted.

Until alternitive facts prove them not to be fake posts.
It shows I rated your post "Ouch" except I never rated your post since I had not seen it. I'll try to remove it.
 

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It's disappointing to see some of the back and forths in this thread. Everyone involved knows that politics have no place here on ROD. Keep your political views to yourself when posting here. There are a multitude of political forums where hate can be spewed with welcoming arms... THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE. I hope I won't have to take any further actions because of this. This subject is beyond tiresome, so don't expect anymore patience from me when it comes to politics being posted here.

Like i said, it's extremely disappointing.
 

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This artificial reef stuff is something that I take a great interest in.

Back in college I used this subject to earn an A+ in Technical Report Writing. Keep in mind that this was back in the late 80's lol. I earned a little cash from it too.

My report focused on oil companies turning their old offshore oil rigs into artificial reefs instead of disassembling them and selling them as scrap. I proved to them that they could actually do better with the bottom line by turning/donating these things into artificial reefs. Using the low voltage current is a brand new idea as this article shows... it really speeds up the process it seems. But placing the right materials in the right locations will almost always result in a new coral/reef environment in a pretty short amount of time. The key is placing the artificial structures in a good location.

It's a great way to create new marine environments where there used to be almost nothing. There's even a company here in FL that takes your ashes and turns them into an artificial structure (concrete like) that becomes a reef. There's even a little plaque thingy with your info on it like a tombstone so that your living relatives can dive down and visit you later to see what kind of critters are now thriving in your structure/resting place.

Artificial reefs are awesomeness. I actually fish on some that were created outside of Daytona Beach.
 

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This artificial reef stuff is something that I take a great interest in.

Back in college I used this subject to earn an A+ in Technical Report Writing. Keep in mind that this was back in the late 80's lol. I earned a little cash from it too.

My report focused on oil companies turning their old offshore oil rigs into artificial reefs instead of disassembling them and selling them as scrap. I proved to them that they could actually do better with the bottom line by turning/donating these things into artificial reefs. Using the low voltage current is a brand new idea as this article shows... it really speeds up the process it seems. But placing the right materials in the right locations will almost always result in a new coral/reef environment in a pretty short amount of time. The key is placing the artificial structures in a good location.

It's a great way to create new marine environments where there used to be almost nothing. There's even a company here in FL that takes your ashes and turns them into an artificial structure (concrete like) that becomes a reef. There's even a little plaque thingy with your info on it like a tombstone so that your living relatives can dive down and visit you later to see what kind of critters are now thriving in your structure/resting place.

Artificial reefs are awesomeness. I actually fish on some that were created outside of Daytona Beach.


Great use of those old oil rigs for sure!

The old Browns stadium was put into Lake Erie as an artificial reef when they broke it down. Of course people were grabbing seats, railings, bricks and everything as souvenirs like fans do at any stadium, but that leaves A LOT to use for a reef. There was also an auction for people who didn't want to trespass and steal LOL.

Art Modell's toilet is hanging (or at least was I don't know if the bar is still there.) from the ceiling of a downtown bar.

Gary Bauer, who owned The Basement nightclub in The Flats, plunked down $2,000 for Bernie Kosar's locker. He also bought the toilet. It came from Modell's owner's box. It was brown.

Bauer told a newspaper reporter that he planned to hang it from the ceiling of his club. The $2,700 price tag was worth it, he said, because this was no ordinary toilet. "I wanted to see where Art Modell made all his bad business decisions," he said.

 

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More on this please..........what is a "good location" how do they decide that?

Near another coral reef?


Les is calling out my inner science nerd here, so be warned.

There are a number of different factors that have to be considered before just dropping something down on the ocean floor expecting it to become a reef or useful structure.

The 1st thing is the depth of the water. If you're looking to create a reef for hard corals to attach themselves to... you can't go too deep. Let's just say 100 feet or less for hard corals. Hard corals are the ones that we hear about dying from bleaching these days. Sunlight is very important for them to be able to grow... the deeper you get... the less light comes down.

Soft corals form on deeper structures. They don't require as much light as the hard ones.

Another important factor is the current. Many people have no idea that there is a literal river running along the east coast of Florida known as the Gulf Stream... and it is powerful and strong. The current created in this never stops, but it does fluctuate a small distance east and west almost daily. Drop something in the Gulf Stream off Florida and it might end up off the North Carolina coast in a few days. It flows north.

The daily tide rythm also has to be considered. The high tide depth may be perfect... but during low tide your structure may be above water during certain moon cycles. Plus... the orientation of the structure needs to allow for the current to flow over it in a way that promotes growth for coral and places for fish to escape the currents. Think about it this way... have the nose of a sunken ship pointed into the current (old boats and ships are used all the time)... if the current is blasting against the side of the ship it will cause the thing to fall over and probably move completely away from where you wanted it to be placed. Ocean currents are super strong.

The material you're using is also a factor. I mentioned old ships... but many times old concrete bridges and culverts are used along with big chunks of used concrete. The old oil rig towers are great because of their shape and openness. They're perfect structures for fish and coral. Old airplanes are sometimes used as well.

Still another thing to consider is the boat traffic or possible shipping lanes. You don't want to create a possible hazard for ships and boats.

Temperatures of the water in the location also have to be considered.


There's other shit too... but the bottom line is... you can't just toss something overboard and expect it to turn into a useful structure for for marine life. It's complicated.
 

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Les is calling out my inner science nerd here, so be warned.

There are a number of different factors that have to be considered before just dropping something down on the ocean floor expecting it to become a reef or useful structure.

The 1st thing is the depth of the water. If you're looking to create a reef for hard corals to attach themselves to... you can't go too deep. Let's just say 100 feet or less for hard corals. Hard corals are the ones that we hear about dying from bleaching these days. Sunlight is very important for them to be able to grow... the deeper you get... the less light comes down.

Soft corals form on deeper structures. They don't require as much light as the hard ones.

Another important factor is the current. Many people have no idea that there is a literal river running along the east coast of Florida known as the Gulf Stream... and it is powerful and strong. The current created in this never stops, but it does fluctuate a small distance east and west almost daily. Drop something in the Gulf Stream off Florida and it might end up off the North Carolina coast in a few days. It flows north.

The daily tide rythm also has to be considered. The high tide depth may be perfect... but during low tide your structure may be above water during certain moon cycles. Plus... the orientation of the structure needs to allow for the current to flow over it in a way that promotes growth for coral and places for fish to escape the currents. Think about it this way... have the nose of a sunken ship pointed into the current (old boats and ships are used all the time)... if the current is blasting against the side of the ship it will cause the thing to fall over and probably move completely away from where you wanted it to be placed. Ocean currents are super strong.

The material you're using is also a factor. I mentioned old ships... but many times old concrete bridges and culverts are used along with big chunks of used concrete. The old oil rig towers are great because of their shape and openness. They're perfect structures for fish and coral. Old airplanes are sometimes used as well.

Still another thing to consider is the boat traffic or possible shipping lanes. You don't want to create a possible hazard for ships and boats.

Temperatures of the water in the location also have to be considered.


There's other crap too... but the bottom line is... you can't just toss something overboard and expect it to turn into a useful structure for for marine life. It's complicated.

Talk nerdy to me!!!

I come from a family of scientists.

PhD's all around the dinner table.

So I know there is ALWAYS more to it than meets the eye.

That's why I asked.