Backup QB - if Reclamation Project

[OnceARam]

9ers pick him up likely

 

[CGI_Ram]

9ers pick him up likely

They’d have to trade for him.

 

[OnceARam]

They’d have to trade for him.

Oh, i thought we were talking about him being released. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[snackdaddy]

Whatever they do, I hope they don't go with a late round/undrafted noodle arm quarterback to back up Stafford next year. With the lack of interest in Wentz this past year he just might be willing and come cheap enough to stick around.

 

[dieterbrock]

The catch 22 with Wentz is that the more he plays, the better chance he drums up interest elsewhere for next season. On the flip side, the less he plays may not impress the Rams enough to re-sign him

 

[Allen2McVay]

The catch 22 with Wentz is that the more he plays, the better chance he drums up interest elsewhere for next season. On the flip side, the less he plays may not impress the Rams enough to re-sign him

It doesn't have to be Wentz. But Damn-it they got to have a solid back-up-QB in 2024 in my opinion.

Posters often state ... "If the Rams lose Stafford, their Season is over". ... AAARGH!!!

Yes ... if it's a Season-Ending Injury.
The Jets and Bengals will not win the Super Bowl without Rodgers and Burrow.

That Ain't the Point!
If a starting-QB goes-down for 1-4 games, can the back-up do enough to get a couple wins?

If the Rams had a competent back-up could they have won in Green Bay?
5-5 would look pretty good right now.

Little frustrated on this topic because I feel like it has been a consistent mistake, without any adjustment by Management; and I have no confidence it will be corrected.

 

[dieterbrock]

Posters often state ... "If the Rams lose Stafford, their Season is over".

And I am surely one of those who says that. Doesnt mean a cardboard cut out would suffice. I totally agree that the backup should be someone who can effectively manage the position.

 

[Neil039]

And I am surely one of those who says that. Doesnt mean a cardboard cut out would suffice. I totally agree that the backup should be someone who can effectively manage the position.

I worry for the day when the Rams see a shiny backup playing for another team and waste millions to find out he's great at holding a clip board.

 

[Merlin]

I worry for the day when the Rams see a shiny backup playing for another team and waste millions to find out he's great at holding a clip board.

That's where McVay has an advantage, his high QB standards. So doubt that happens while he is here.

 

[Merlin]

This article came out during the spring when everyone was discussing Lamar's contract and QB value in general for starters. It's rather sobering as it pertains to first round QBs. Whether you agree with some of the more recent picks doesn't matter, as generally it demonstrates that taking QBs early isn't exactly a good thing.

It also demonstrates, to my eye at least, why teams prioritize head coaches who can bring young QBs along, as that element might be the single most important in building your team. If you can get the most from the position schematically, it's a big edge. We have that edge.

This is why, for myself at least, getting all crazy with this first round pick being used on a QB is not my priority. I mean sure, if a QB the Rams are crazy about is there for them, take him. Maybe that's the LSU kid, as an example. Or Maye falling out of favor perhaps. Too early to know really. But what's the return on that pick in the next few years, really. If the team is really still all in with Stafford then building the talent level around him and the protections should be the priority. Also the defense, as I always say, is a QB's best friend, because its ability to tilt the field in your favor and limit opponents sets the stage for QB heroics.

So I'm really intrigued by this reclamation thing as it pertains to QBs. I really like the idea of getting these broken toys from QB island, of zigging instead of zagging (borrowing the term used by the article above). Of taking advantage of hard experience garnered via failure at this level by formerly favored signal callers. Why not do this. In fact why not make sure there's one of these guys on your PS as well, because if you're the Rams, who typically only hold two QBs, you do have the ability to go to three if you want to protect the player.

Also and btw this isn't all about Wentz for me. Rather it's about continually tapping into these discarded toys to supplement the most important position in the game. Instead of doing it when you're at a low ebb, as we saw with Mayfield last season and this season with Wentz. Try to do it with an eye towards getting ahead of it.

In closing how would that work, to get ahead of it. Well I think it would work in this instance by getting one of these guys inked to a 2 or 3 year deal. It's a bit dicey. It has some risk. But the potential returns are there, which include being able to cast a wider net to find that QB you need at this level.

 

[Dodgersrf]

It's tough @CGI_Ram , once a bad coordinator (In in Jones case several) ruins a young QB it's hard for that QB to rebound. It can happen but rarely does. IMO

Alex Smith had a fairly decent career after Frisco tried to ruin him.
Not incredible, but he turned into a pretty solid player.

David Carr…..not so much. He was broken beyond repair.

 

[Haden]

Wentz is a good backup, nothing more. I'd like to keep him.

 

[Neil039]

Alex Smith had a fairly decent career after Frisco tried to ruin him.
Not incredible, but he turned into a pretty solid player.

David Carr…..not so much. He was broken beyond repair.

Smith is a good example. bad situations and a coach who gave up on him.

There's not many instances in the NFL whee it works. Steve Young jumps out at me after he left the Bucs to the 49ers. There are a few more but definitely more failures than successes. (IMO)

 

[Faceplant]

Plunkett is another who comes to mind. I guess you would have to put our very own Superbowl MVP Kurt Warner on the reclamation list for what the Cardinals were able to get out of him....

 

[dieterbrock]

Geno Smith would surely qualify as a reclamation project, though I wouldnt want him on my team

 

[snackdaddy]

The catch 22 with Wentz is that the more he plays, the better chance he drums up interest elsewhere for next season. On the flip side, the less he plays may not impress the Rams enough to re-sign him

Even if he doesn't play they should have a good idea if he's still viable by his practice sessions with the team. If not, no harm done. But I'd rather take a chance on him than undrafted noodle arm backups they've had every year.

 

[dieterbrock]

Even if he doesn't play they should have a good idea if he's still viable by his practice sessions with the team. If not, no harm done. But I'd rather take a chance on him than undrafted noodle arm backups they've had every year.

Unfortunately, the current regime didnt seem to have an idea of how viable Wolford, Perkins or Rypien were based on practice sessions. That's what kind of scares me.

 

[Merlin]

Unfortunately, the current regime didnt seem to have an idea of how viable Wolford, Perkins or Rypien were based on practice sessions. That's what kind of scares me.

No doubt. But I suspect some of it was them thinking "well this way if Stafford misses time we get that higher pick" but then you endure the reality of losing a winnable game in Green Bay and realize you don't want to throw in the towel just yet.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Plunkett is another who comes to mind. I guess you would have to put our very own Superbowl MVP Kurt Warner on the reclamation list for what the Cardinals were able to get out of him....

And Randall Cunningham, Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Doug Williams, Trent Green, Kerry Collins.