Arch Manning and Matt Stafford: Rams succession plan

[den-the-coach]

He seems to favor certain teams. He’s also a bit too much for my liking. It seems silly at times.

Fair enough I have always liked him, but would agree he might favor some teams over others.

 

[Memento]

How’s Sellers looking today? Stats look OK but haven’t been able to watch

Explained a bit of Sellers' game on the Nussmeier thread. Maybe we should merge all of these threads into some giant "QB-of-the-future-with-Atlanta's-pick" thread?

Overall, I saw him throw with more touch than he did his freshman year, if his receiver doesn't try to one-hand it, he'd have two touchdowns through the air. Same massive arm strength, and he makes it look effortless, really compact delivery. Wish he'd throw the routes with more timing, wish he wouldn't play hero ball as often and live to fight another drive, ball security on the sacks is an issue. The hero-ball killed him on the safety/first sack and the third sack. I blame the left tackle on the second sack more than I do Sellers; he had no chance, no time, and he was scanning the field. No quarterback evades that sack, and a lot of them fumble that ball like he idd.

But the physical talent is tantalizing. Not just the designed run, but the third down improv in the final three minutes of the fourth quarter was just incredible. You don't see that from many quarterbacks, being able to have the ability to shrug off two sure sacks, scramble for the first down and then some, while evading other arm tackles.

I can see why Snead was there. I can see why he would be salivating. Sellers definitely needs to work on the full aspect of the quarterbacking position, but he's a coachable kid from all accounts, and he's not even old enough to legally drink yet. So much potential. If we do have a top ten pick from the Falcons in 2026 and Arch didn't come out, Sellers wouldn't be a consolation prize in the slightest. There are some plays when you watch him where you think of a younger Steve McNair.

 

[Pupped]

I'll agree to disagree. I'd rather see kids get a choice rather than see kids lack them entirely. As for money? The more stories like Arian Foster (who - in his own anecdote - had to beg a coach to get him something to eat one night in college or he was, to quote him: "going to do something stupid") of athletes who lacked the funds to get extra meals (which, when you consider long practices and weight room stuff, they'd need as an athlete; look how much Michael Phelps ate, if you need an example).

NIL isn't perfect. The transfer portal isn't perfect. But I'd rather see college kids have some form of control and the chance to actually contribute instead of languishing on the bench rather than the coaches entirely controlling every aspect of their lives and college careers.

Strawman.
They had choices before, but had to sit a year. I don’t like that but hate the free for all.
I’ve got zero problem with them getting paid. I believe there needs to be a CBA.

 

[Memento]

Strawman.
They had choices before, but had to sit a year. I don’t like that but hate the free for all.
I’ve got zero problem with them getting paid. I believe there needs to be a CBA.

There were a lot of places where that wasn't an option. Such a thing cost them a year of their career, and oftentimes, those players were stuck on the bench if they failed to win the job and unable to transfer again. If they transferred to the wrong school at the wrong time, they were shit out of luck. How is that fair in the slightest? And that's not even mentioning vindictive coaches who have ruined aspiring careers with their petty actions, trying to keep players from transferring to certain schools, benching them for various slights, etc.

Does it suck to lose players? Absolutely, it does. Does the transfer portal need to be addressed in a more fitting way? Absolutely, it does. But I'd rather see the players have options rather than the lack of choices they had before.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I'd rather see kids get a choice rather than see kids lack them entirely.

Most if not all of these kids had “a choice” actually multiple choices.

The stories of kids not having money to eat no matter how frequent or infrequent is really disheartening.
The athletes should have had meals and housing minimum.

My son says the pre made meals (possibly provided by coaches/trainers/nutritionists) are taking up his whole fridge and they have to battle for space lol.

As for NIL like many things, it is a mixed bag.

 

[Pupped]

There were a lot of places where that wasn't an option. Such a thing cost them a year of their career, and oftentimes, those players were stuck on the bench if they failed to win the job and unable to transfer again. If they transferred to the wrong school at the wrong time, they were shit out of luck. How is that fair in the slightest? And that's not even mentioning vindictive coaches who have ruined aspiring careers with their petty actions, trying to keep players from transferring to certain schools, benching them for various slights, etc.

Does it suck to lose players? Absolutely, it does. Does the transfer portal need to be addressed in a more fitting way? Absolutely, it does. But I'd rather see the players have options rather than the lack of choices they had before.

Yeah.. again.. I think they should be paid.
And the portal system should have way more stability and structure.

Can’t see it in my posts? Got it.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yeah.. again.. I think they should be paid.
And the portal system should have way more stability and structure.

Can’t see it in my posts? Got it.

I’m not clear on what you’d change about the portal. What are your suggestions? What do you want to address?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Carson Beck is looking very good tonight

 

[PhillyRam]

I am not a fan of Gus Johnson.

 

[PhillyRam]

Strawman.
They had choices before, but had to sit a year. I don’t like that but hate the free for all.
I’ve got zero problem with them getting paid. I believe there needs to be a CBA.

It's worse in college basketball where often 80% of the team can turnover from one year to the next and then turnover again the following year. One aspect I liked about college sports is watching kids in a program mature and develop. Now every year you just bring in a new crew of players who you know very little about.

 

[RamFan503]

I'll agree to disagree. I'd rather see kids get a choice rather than see kids lack them entirely. As for money? The more stories like Arian Foster (who - in his own anecdote - had to beg a coach to get him something to eat one night in college or he was, to quote him: "going to do something stupid") of athletes who lacked the funds to get extra meals (which, when you consider long practices and weight room stuff, they'd need as an athlete; look how much Michael Phelps ate, if you need an example).

NIL isn't perfect. The transfer portal isn't perfect. But I'd rather see college kids have some form of control and the chance to actually contribute instead of languishing on the bench rather than the coaches entirely controlling every aspect of their lives and college careers.

I agree to an extent. What I’m having a problem with is the ability to jump ship that easily. Aren’t some of these guys starters for the teams they signed onto? Also, maybe a little more evenly spread out among the players. I’m fine with the top players being paid more. They should. But by my understanding, some of these kids don’t receive any compensation. Maybe I’m dead wrong. I don’t really know how the whole thing works and too lazy to research it.

 

[RamFan503]

Maybe we should merge all of these threads into some giant "QB-of-the-future-with-Atlanta's-pick" thread?

At minimum, these should all go to the college/draft forum. I realize it has MS in the title but it’s really more about who we might draft to replace him.

 

[Spider2YB]

Carson Beck is looking very good tonight

When Carson Beck is on, he looks like a bonafide NFL QB. But he’s got so many red flags, I’d be surprised if McVay and Snead were interested.

He was a fifth year senior at Georgia last year and they still didn’t let him audible. They let Jake Fromm and Stetson Bennett change plays and set protections. But they didn’t feel comfortable with Beck doing it. And I’m not sure he has the leadership qualities to be the face of an NFL franchise. When things aren’t going well, his body language is awful.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

When Carson Beck is on, he looks like a bonafide NFL QB. But he’s got so many red flags, I’d be surprised if McVay and Snead were interested.

He was a fifth year senior at Georgia last year and they still didn’t let him audible. They let Jake Fromm and Stetson Bennett change plays and set protections. But they didn’t feel comfortable with Beck doing it. And I’m not sure he has the leadership qualities to be the face of an NFL franchise. When things aren’t going well, his body language is awful.

Thanks. for the report. That's the first time I watched him play.

 

[Memento]

Yeah.. again.. I think they should be paid.
And the portal system should have way more stability and structure.

Can’t see it in my posts? Got it.

I'm agreeing with you. I apologize if it seemed otherwise.

 

[RamFan503]

Moved to Draft/College Football forum.