All-time Rams Team...in Hell!!!

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dieterbrock said:
Agreed, but in fairness to the OP, I'm assuming he was going for worst player, not worst human being
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As is often the case, the scope of the topic is subject to interpretation.

I think of it as the version of the Rams I’d be forced to watch for all eternity should I end up on the other side of the river Styx.
 
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Maybe the OP should rephrase it as All Time Bad Team. That said, I'll throw one in the ring:

Jason Freakin Smith, taken just after our current QB ironically. To be fair, that was not an amazing draft, but we managed to take a complete bum at #2
 
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Loyal said:
*assumed bad players wouldn't be going to hell....bad human beings on the other hand...
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He says hell in the thread title, but then says hades in the post and later references the river styx. In greek mythology, basically everyone went to hades and your afterlife was based on how you lived. I could see some of these players being punished by an eternity of being shitty at football, suffer career ending injuries every day only to find out there's no tub to sit in at the clubhouse.
 
The key to this is that they don't just suck - teams that are knowingly awful are easier to be a fan of. It's the ones who should be better and constantly falling short that are hellish.

HC: Jeff Fisher

QB: Sam Bradford - what's worse than thinking you have your QB but having to watch him tear his ACL every year?

RB: Lawrence Phillips

WR: Drew Bennett

WR: Az Hakim - loved him but in this hell, we watch him muff punts every game to thwart historic comebacks

TE: Jared Cook

OL: Jason Smith/Jacob Bell/Jason Brown/John Greco/Greg Robinson

EDGE: Connor Barwin/Ebukam

LB: James Lauranaitis/Tommy Polly/Will Witherspoon

CB: Ron Barrell/Dexter McCleon

S: Jason Seahorn/Adam Archuleta


Talk about a team ready to send you off to work on Monday with a bad taste in your mouth
 
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I don't think this is about players who should be in hell... Should be called the Rams all-time players from hell.

So yeah guys like Greg Robinson & Jason Smith would be the cornerstones of the OL.

Kyle Boller at QB or maybe Bradford considering what they invested in him.

So many more names of players could be listed, but definitely the coach would be Scott Linehan or maybe Rich Brooks, with Spags also getting some consideration.
 
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AvengerRam said:
As is often the case, the scope of the topic is subject to interpretation.

I think of it as the version of the Rams I’d be forced to watch for all eternity should I end up on the other side of the river Styx.
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Maybe put that in the opening statement instead of leaving it open ended to get thrown off course, just a suggestion.
 
1maGoh said:
He says hell in the thread title, but then says hades in the post and later references the river styx. In greek mythology, basically everyone went to hades and your afterlife was based on how you lived. I could see some of these players being punished by an eternity of being shitty at football, suffer career ending injuries every day only to find out there's no tub to sit in at the clubhouse.
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For you uncultured heathens out there maybe I can clear this up having studied ancient languages and civilizations a bit...

Hell is an English word. It is not a biblical word. It comes It comes from old English word "hel" and was used to translate the Greek word Hades into English. So this is the common, general word us western (mostly non literate to ancient history) people use to refer to the concept of the afterlife where bad people go. It is used often in English bibles to translate the O.T. Hebrew word "Sheol" and N.T. Greek words Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus.

The Old Testament Hebrew word "Sheol" referred to the grave, with connotations to the afterlife, or temporary holding place for souls.

The New Testament word Gehenna is a transliteration of the Aramaic/Hebrew word ge-hinnom, means "valley of Hinnom" which is a literal place just southeast of Jerusalem where trash/bodies were burned daily and "the worm never died." Jesus used this term to often reference the calamity about to come upon Israel in A.D. 70 when the Romans destroyed the Jewish Temple and essentially scattered the Jews for nearly 2 Millenia. This word Gehenna, in my opinion was primarily used by Jesus to refer to the coming destruction of Jerusalem during the Jewish wars that began in 66 AD. But he also used the word in the context of judgement which is why the English translators of the N.T. translated Gehenna to "Hell". Often incorrectly.

The N.T. word Hades is a Greek word that refers to the afterlife. Because the New Testament was written in Greek primarily we see the writers use the word "Hades" when referring to the other world. A massive mistake would be to assume that these Apostles/writers were borrowing the Greek idea of Hades from the Greeks when using the word Hades. The Fact is they lived in a Hellenized (Greek) world within the Roman Empire in which Greek was the common language, so they spoke and wrote in Greek and thus used the word Hades, as that is the Greek word for the afterlife. Much the same way we use the word Hell to refer to the after life in America, that doesn't mean we are speaking of hell as used by the Norse or Germanics when they used the word "hel".

A Final note. The Greeks did not invent the concept of the underworld. You can go back to the Pyramids today and see Egyptians depictions of the underworld which dates to 2000 BC which far predates the earliest Greek writings of "Hades" around 700 B.C. We know for a fact that the Hebrews/Semitics existed in Egypt around the middle kingdom 1500 B.C. or earlier. We see this on the Pyramid walls, papyri writing that name Semitic names, The Stele of Pharaoh Merneptah which mentions his battles with Israel and dates to 1215 B.C. and many, many more archeological finds.

What does this all tell us? While the word "Hades" was used by Jews in the first century, it was only because the language they were using was Greek. The Concept was believed and passed down (verbally) even before writing was developed. This is why we see the concept of the underworld pop up in the very first writing (Cuneiform) among the ancient Sumerians in Mesopotamia around 3000 B.C. Which for you Muslim/Jewish/Christians folks, was right after the Tower of Babel Event and the Birth of Abraham.

So now that we know Hell is a Western English-speaker word that comes from the Greek word Hades, who's origins are seen in the very first writings of mankind as generally speaking the afterlife where bad people go....

I would say if I am only having fun and saying which Ram should go to Hell/Hades I would pick Jared Goff. Because if he was at least as good as Matt Stafford we would have won at least one Super Bowl.

And just bringing up the subject drags us all back to hell in our never ending debate, where the worm don't die. :)
 
TexasRam said:
For you uncultured heathens out there maybe I can clear this up having studied ancient languages and civilizations a bit...

Hell is an English word. It is not a biblical word. It comes It comes from old English word "hel" and was used to translate the Greek word Hades into English. So this is the common, general word us western (mostly non literate to ancient history) people use to refer to the concept of the afterlife where bad people go. It is used often in English bibles to translate the O.T. Hebrew word "Sheol" and N.T. Greek words Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus.

The Old Testament Hebrew word "Sheol" referred to the grave, with connotations to the afterlife, or temporary holding place for souls.

The New Testament word Gehenna is a transliteration of the Aramaic/Hebrew word ge-hinnom, means "valley of Hinnom" which is a literal place just southeast of Jerusalem where trash/bodies were burned daily and "the worm never died." Jesus used this term to often reference the calamity about to come upon Israel in A.D. 70 when the Romans destroyed the Jewish Temple and essentially scattered the Jews for nearly 2 Millenia. This word Gehenna, in my opinion was primarily used by Jesus to refer to the coming destruction of Jerusalem during the Jewish wars that began in 66 AD. But he also used the word in the context of judgement which is why the English translators of the N.T. translated Gehenna to "Hell". Often incorrectly.

The N.T. word Hades is a Greek word that refers to the afterlife. Because the New Testament was written in Greek primarily we see the writers use the word "Hades" when referring to the other world. A massive mistake would be to assume that these Apostles/writers were borrowing the Greek idea of Hades from the Greeks when using the word Hades. The Fact is they lived in a Hellenized (Greek) world within the Roman Empire in which Greek was the common language, so they spoke and wrote in Greek and thus used the word Hades, as that is the Greek word for the afterlife. Much the same way we use the word Hell to refer to the after life in America, that doesn't mean we are speaking of hell as used by the Norse or Germanics when they used the word "hel".

A Final note. The Greeks did not invent the concept of the underworld. You can go back to the Pyramids today and see Egyptians depictions of the underworld which dates to 2000 BC which far predates the earliest Greek writings of "Hades" around 700 B.C. We know for a fact that the Hebrews/Semitics existed in Egypt around the middle kingdom 1500 B.C. or earlier. We see this on the Pyramid walls, papyri writing that name Semitic names, The Stele of Pharaoh Merneptah which mentions his battles with Israel and dates to 1215 B.C. and many, many more archeological finds.

What does this all tell us? While the word "Hades" was used by Jews in the first century, it was only because the language they were using was Greek. The Concept was believed and passed down (verbally) even before writing was developed. This is why we see the concept of the underworld pop up in the very first writing (Cuneiform) among the ancient Sumerians in Mesopotamia around 3000 B.C. Which for you Muslim/Jewish/Christians folks, was right after the Tower of Babel Event and the Birth of Abraham.

So now that we know Hell is a Western English-speaker word that comes from the Greek word Hades, who's origins are seen in the very first writings of mankind as generally speaking the afterlife where bad people go....

I would say if I am only having fun and saying which Ram should go to Hell/Hades I would pick Jared Goff. Because if he was at least as good as Matt Stafford we would have won at least one Super Bowl.

And just bringing up the subject drags us all back to hell in our never ending debate, where the worm don't die. :)
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Nice summary. In Part 2, we can go over the depictions of Hell in art and literature from Dante’s Inferno to Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey.
 
Tron said:
Much like this thread you started. Flame the guy responding to your thread without specifying what your thread is about.
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Do you always over-analyze tongue-in-cheek subjects?

As for SWA’s unnecessary and bizarrely sensitive reaction...that’s just par for the course when it comes to his responses to my posts, so a dismissive one sentence response is all he gets.

For the record, in Hell, all posters on the Underworld Wide Web’s top Rams site would whine incessantly and nitpick threads that clearly have no purpose other than to provide a platform to pass the time and amuse ourselves during a down time in the offseason (and, of course, the “Boobie” and “Booty” threads would only contain photos of Rosie O’Donnell, Hilary Clinton, and Roseanne Barr).
 
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