AD99 and missing holding calls

Seth Griffith · Dec 1, 2020

Is anyone else beside themselves at how many holding calls AREN’T being called when AD99 is held so damn much? I might be wrong, but I heard on a podcast that Donald has only drawn 1 holding penalty in 600 defensive snaps??? Multiple times a game I keep watching for laundry on the field when I see Donald being held. The officials must be trying to make up for that bad non call on DPI against the Saints in the 2018 NFC championship game or something. Anyone else have thoughts on this. It’s ridiculous!

So Ram · Dec 1, 2020

In the Miami game Austin Blythe had a DLman had his face mask twice on a bull rush & the player made enough of a play on Goff to cause a bad pass.He talked quick to the line coach.
Then when Miami had the ball it was the O”lineman who did it to Aaron Donald.Donald was upset as well.

That was big because The Rams were down 27-10. Just some poor officiating

Mackeyser · Dec 1, 2020

Well, the thing about AD is that if they called every hold, they'd be calling holds on almost every play and they won't do that.

What that means is that they go in KNOWING that they aren't going to call some obvious fouls.

As the game goes on, if they've let some pretty bad stuff go, then that sets the bar and they end up calling nothing...which is complete horse manure, but... yeah.

AD is having the Shaq problem. And rather than force teams to adjust, they're just being lazy and bailing out teams.

dang · Dec 1, 2020

how many pass play holding calls have gone against the Rams OL? I would love for Donald to get 3 holding calls and 2 sacks every game. I can live with the Rams getting the same ‘no hold call’ when they hold. I would need to be convinced they are enforced equally to accept.

Tano · Dec 1, 2020

I just want them to call the flagrant holds on Donald:

Choke holds from behind are flagrant
Tackling Donald is flagrant
Holding Donald from behind is flagrant

And Shaq did go to the foul line frequently. Lets call the holds once in awhile just to let the OL know that they can't blatantly hold Donald.

Lurker · Dec 1, 2020

Shaq was also

Tano said:
And Shaq did go to the foul line frequently. Lets call the holds once in awhile just to let the OL know that they can't blatantly hold Donald.

Shaq was also allowed to slam into defenders to move them out of the way and could have been called for offensive fouls on a lot of plays if they enforced the rules...maybe Donald should bring back the head slap just to see if the refs are willing to ignore things both ways...

Tano · Dec 1, 2020

Lurker said:
Shaq was also

Shaq was also allowed to slam into defenders to move them out of the way and could have been called for offensive fouls on a lot of plays if they enforced the rules...maybe Donald should bring back the head slap just to see if the refs are willing to ignore things both ways...

I would love to see Donald do that and then complain to the refs after the penalty - if you are going to call the head slap on me at least call the blatant holds on them.

Selassie I · Dec 1, 2020

It's fucking bullshit that the refs PRETEND they don't see it.

Donald isn't held on every play... but he's clearly held to way beyond the point of deserving a holding call too many times a game for there to be no flags thrown. I watch a shit ton of football every week... there is absolutely no doubt that the zebras are pretending when it comes to the CLEAR RULE VIOLATIONS against AD.

Maddening doesn't begin to describe what it does to me.

bubbaramfan · Dec 1, 2020

This isn't the first time a defensive player has been held excessively. Lawrence Taylor was held almost every play also. Complaining to the league didn't change things for him either.

Tano · Dec 1, 2020

bubbaramfan said:
This isn't the first time a defensive player has been held excessively. Lawrence Taylor was held almost every play also. Complaining to the league didn't change things for him either.

Yeah but I believe he did get holding calls when they were blatant. That's all I am asking for.

Seth Griffith · Dec 2, 2020

I get it. But there are just so many obvious holds that aren’t called and then you see a flag for some ticky tack B.S. and it makes me lose my mind! Also for what it’s worth, there have been some grossly missed holds on AD at critical points in the game. Just give us those holds then, damn it!

Ramstien · Dec 2, 2020

The bottom line is what I have been saying for years "All NFL officials Suck!"

Elmgrovegnome · Dec 2, 2020

Last season the word was out that the officials were to start calling more holding. They did at first.

Early this year they called a few more. I remember a couple BS calls on Ram Olineman.

If they won't call them then the rule needs refinement. The league wants to protect players and we saw how many times Quinn got clothes lined, and how it affected his health. They can't say only certain holds are fouls, or the result will be most holds will become even more blatant. But they could initiate a stiffer penalty for a certain hold. Grabbing a pass rusher around the neck is akin to a horse collar tackle. It can be just as dangerous. The penalty for doing that should be a 15 yard penalty and loss of down.

Classic Rams · Dec 2, 2020

Sounds like somebody should send a video of all the blatant holding non-calls.... to the NFL, to the Rams, to twitter, wherever.

Mackeyser · Dec 3, 2020

Classic Rams said:
Sounds like somebody should send a video of all the blatant holding non-calls.... to the NFL, to the Rams, to twitter, wherever.

If I still had all my editing gear, I would. It would be a labor of love.

NJRamsFan · Dec 4, 2020

Mackeyser said:
If I still had all my editing gear, I would. It would be a labor of love.

Seems our season depends on you now Mack...get on it

CGI_Ram · Dec 4, 2020

Look at the attempted hold... then Zeke pancake. Makes me smile every time... lol Zeke.

Rams77 · Dec 4, 2020

i have no doubt in my mind that if they called the games fairly that Aaron Donald would go down as the most unstoppable defensive player ever. Apparently defense doesn't sell/attract younger fans so they basically ignore it just like they ignore offensive pss interference calls. How many offensive PIs did Mike Evans get away with against Jalen last week? Its bullshit. I agree that maybe Donald should just karate chop/choke/pile drive Olineman until refs take notice of his frustration. Theres only 5 games left and then the big dance-if this defense can be dominant down the stretch we have a great shot at this

RentonRamsFan · Dec 4, 2020

I think it's a league wide thing - the officials are calling fewer holding penalties this year, probably because offense makes the game more exciting, and in the end, this is an entertainment business. Last week, there were a lot of articles about how AD was being held and he basically had no stats for 2 consecutive games (sacks Y& tackles). I think the best we can hope for is for teams to double AD, and hope our other guys win one on one matchups. Also, even if he's held, AD can push the pocket from inside to really make things uncomfortable for the QB. But I totally agree he's being held almost all the time!

J.J. Watt complains about refs not calling holding penalties after brother T.J. appeared to get held

J.J. Watt has his baby brother's back, even if the referees don't.

www.sportingnews.com

CGI_Ram · Dec 5, 2020

View: https://twitter.com/pff/status/1335071911781552128?s=21

AD99 and missing holding calls

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