A step back on offense, 2 steps forward on defense?

[TSFH Fan]

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i'm sure all these bozos in the media said the same thing about the 2000 rams. how did all that film of them help defenses out?

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Couldn't find a link, but my memory is that Warner said in an interview that in 1999 guys would be getting open almost immediately after the snap, but that defenses adapted and guys weren't getting open as quickly in 2000.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Couldn't find a link, but my memory is that Warner said in an interview that in 1999 guys would be getting open almost immediately after the snap, but that defenses adapted and guys weren't getting open as quickly in 2000.

points scored

1999 - 526
2000 - 540

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[badnews]

So nobody thinks the offense could be missing something from Olsen and Lafleur? Do we get better in the red zone without Watkins?

I think some might be misinterpreting my caution for something else, I dont know.
I didn't say anything about the O taking two steps back lol, I asked if its possible that we might take a step back on O stastically, because of the odds, because of the losses of two great offensive coaches, because of the loss of an elite redzone threat. Nobody think any of that can happen because Brandin Cooks > Watkins.
With a dominant D and STs, we can win with fewer points, gamble less, etc.
I am always a koolade guzzling optimist. But nobody is going to not see us coming and no teams offense has been studied more this offseason.
I also see reasons to believe we will be better on O, or stay just as good, but that doesnt guarantee a #1 Offense ranking.

 

[Loyal]

About our O: the oldest C and LT in the league last year are a year older.
Both were worn down by the end of the season and expecting us to avoid the dirty "I" word for a second season across the Oline is a recipe for a rude awakening. I believe the Rams are the most talented and best coached team in the league. I fully expect us to finish top 10 or better in all 3 phases.
I understand that the O will be more familiar with McVays offense, but so will the rest of league.
McVay is smart enough to know you dont fix what isnt broken. If he is making changes its because he's also smart enough to know the same tricks rarely work twice.

I expect great things from all 3 phases, I just also expect bigger growth from our D and less luck with our O-line, who were as responsible as any group for our #1 scoring Offense. Cooks is an upgrade but how many passes can we take away from Gurley, Woods, Kupp? Its totally possible that Cooks could be a big upgrade from Watkins but change very little in terms of our production or efficiency.

We might have three 1000 yard WR's this year...I am pretty confident in the new guys, Noteboom especially. We know that MCVay will change the offensive look quite a bit. I hope that every once in a while Noteboom gives Whitt a rest by doing series or two every game.. Allen will develop nicely as a replacement for Sully, imo.

I think we are better on offense with Cook and Goff development. Our team will terrorize the NFL.

 

[Akrasian]

Obviously there can be injuries. The Rams have improved their OL depth, but more needs to be done, though you can never do enough. Otherwise I'd expect improvement, given more experience including of McVay, and of course the addition of Cooks. Also, with improvements on defense, I expect the Rams to get the ball back more quickly, which should help the offense - more plays, and the opposing defenses will be more tired.

Even without Donald, I expected the team to be a serious Super Bowl threat, With him this year, even more so.

 

[tempests]

McVay's offenses never took that step back in Washington. His last year there was their best.

Yes, injuries could spoil the party. Losing his assistants might hurt but only if McVay leaned on them more than we realize. We lost Watkins but we weren't that good in the red zone even with him.

You guys are being ridiculous with this film study thing. Yes, McVay's offense is being studied more than anyone else, why? Because they went from last to first in one year. Every head coach, every offensive coordinator with a struggling young QB and scuffling offense wants to know how he did it, what they can incorporate into their own offense. It's not just defensive coordinators breaking his film down. And even the DCs that are breaking down our film, McVay is breaking down what he sees from them. Defenses can be studied too.

 

[RamDino]

I expect the Rams offense to be even better than last year, simply because it is their second year in the system. I also believe Cooks will prove to be better than Watkins. I expect the defense to be better because of all the talent they have added. The linebackers are the biggest question mark, but that position is also the easiest to replace. The only thing that can derail this team is injuries.

 

[Corbin]

So nobody thinks the offense could be missing something from Olsen and Lafleur? Do we get better in the red zone without Watkins?

I think some might be misinterpreting my caution for something else, I dont know.
I didn't say anything about the O taking two steps back lol, I asked if its possible that we might take a step back on O stastically, because of the odds, because of the losses of two great offensive coaches, because of the loss of an elite redzone threat. Nobody think any of that can happen because Brandin Cooks > Watkins.
With a dominant D and STs, we can win with fewer points, gamble less, etc.
I am always a koolade guzzling optimist. But nobody is going to not see us coming and no teams offense has been studied more this offseason.
I also see reasons to believe we will be better on O, or stay just as good, but that doesn't guarantee a #1 Offense ranking.

Nah man. I actually think our roster is better this year, more specifically on the bottom half that is designed for injury that will more than likely happen this year compared to last years near flawless outing. I'm honestly thinking since our D will give our O that many more options and better field position I'm thinking we score more points TBH. The run D that first 5-7 games was horrific! Guaranteed we start out how e ended last season not getting bent over right away which will help us with points, 3 and outs, and field position.

 

[Flint]

People are looking for a reason, I’ve heard that thrown out there on different shows, teams will catch up to McVay they say. Part of why it’s been successful is the multiple things you can do from similar foundations, people have been studying NE for 15 years and have yet to stop them and even if you know what Gronk’s gonna do can you stop it? Having exceptional talent can overcome scheme. Remember TG’s run against Seattle? There were defenders in position but TG was just too fast.
McVay wasn’t content to run the same team out there this year it’s not just scheme it’s matchups.

 

[TSFH Fan]

points scored

1999 - 526
2000 - 540

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1999 15 Int. 2.8% Sacks 33 5.9% 13 rushing TDs
2000 23 Int. 3.9% Sacks 44 7.0% 26 rushing TDs

I'd say via some metrics, defensive film study helped against the Rams' passing attack, possibly at the cost of defending the run. It's up to the defense whether they choose Scylla or Charybdis. But to suggest/hint that film study doesn't make a difference is simply not the case.

 

[kurtfaulk]

1999 15 Int. 2.8% Sacks 33 5.9% 13 rushing TDs
2000 23 Int. 3.9% Sacks 44 7.0% 26 rushing TDs

I'd say via some metrics, defensive film study helped against the Rams' passing attack, possibly at the cost of defending the run. It's up to the defense whether they choose Scylla or Charybdis. But to suggest/hint that film study doesn't make a difference is simply not the case.

kurt warner ypa

1999 - 8.7
2000 - 9.9

warner was absolutely scorching defenses that year. and that stat includes the panthers game where he obviously came back too early and stunk up the joint.

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edit - if you take out that panthers game his ypa was 10.4. are you kidding me.

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[Soul Surfer]

Wade favoring ..stop the pass over stop the run show'd. Wade runs more Nickle D's 4-2-5 than the standard 3-4-4's which would intice our opponets to run more often & they did often with some really big runs.

Which makes sense.
But we were really exposed badly in the Atlanta game and if we want to advance past a wild-card game we need to be better at stopping the run.

 

[TSFH Fan]

kurt warner ypa

1999 - 8.7
2000 - 9.9

warner was absolutely scorching defenses that year. and that stat includes the panthers game where he obviously came back too early and stunk up the joint.

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edit - if you take out that panthers game his ypa was 10.4. are you kidding me.

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kurt warner Adjusted ypa - which also factors in interceptions
1999 - 9.2
2000 - 8.8

If you want the last word, feel free. I'm done with this.

 

[kurtfaulk]

kurt warner Adjusted ypa - which also factors in interceptions
1999 - 9.2
2000 - 8.8

If you want the last word, feel free. I'm done with this.

Done with what? We're just talking.

Btw, i prefer actual stats to adjusted stats. How can his ypa go up when you also factor in interceptions?

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[bomebadeeda]

One would think it might be that way. I look at it as something completely different. The rest of the league now has all of that film on the offense. Now you taper up different plays out of the "repeated" stuff from last year. If we are executing, the only thing holding us back will be the health of our better players. McVay has been very good at keeping ahead of the curve. I think he can remain there (barring major injury....) for another year.