A Case Keenum Thread!

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I thought both flags thrown in those plays were questionable. Robinson was standing on the blue line (line of scrimmage) that is superimposed on the field when I watched the replay.

The hold on the big run was BS when I watched that replay. If that's holding... then what other teams are doing to Quinn is actual criminal activity.

I know I'm jaded toward the Rams... but those were some ticky tack calls at best. I didn't agree with either of them.

The Robinson ineligible receiver call was correct. I just checked the coach's film because I was about to bitch about it. Robinson thought Case was going to run and ended up pushing a Cardinals player 3-4 yards down the field and then he drifted another yard and stood there for a second. So he was around 5 yards down the field. I think you're only allowed to be 3 IIRC.

I agree with you on the holding call. Was it the wrong call? No. Was it ticky tack? Yea. Frankly, Greg needs to work on his holding technique. I am not even joking. The ref likely called it because of where he grabbed him. LTs do the same thing to Quinn on a regular basis, but they grab him by the collar instead of the chest-plate. Greg might have gotten away with it if he grabbed the DE by the collar.

Although, knowing the refs, they still likely call it. They have a tendency to give some guys the BOTD and given others no BOTD. Greg seems to get no BOTD.
 

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Nice responses guys but seeing few people answer the question: Do you think Sundays game was Case's ceiling or do you think he has room to improve?

I can't imagine his arm or accuracy will improve at all but one thing that could happen is him seeing the field better. I still think there are times where he's not seeing the open guy.
 

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Nice responses guys but seeing few people answer the question: Do you think Sundays game was Case's ceiling or do you think he has room to improve?

I can't imagine his arm or accuracy will improve at all but one thing that could happen is him seeing the field better. I still think there are times where he's not seeing the open guy.

Statistically, not his ceiling. In terms of play, probably his ceiling.
 

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Nice responses guys but seeing few people answer the question: Do you think Sundays game was Case's ceiling or do you think he has room to improve?

I can't imagine his arm or accuracy will improve at all but one thing that could happen is him seeing the field better. I still think there are times where he's not seeing the open guy.
His grasp of the offense and decision making can still get better.
 

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that was the big liability at LT doing his thing....

That, and that ridiculous escape act he pulled to get out of 2 sacks and hit an open receiver. Which also was called back - this time due to illegal man downfield. That was a tremendous play by him.

I thought both flags thrown in those plays were questionable. Robinson was standing on the blue line (line of scrimmage) that is superimposed on the field when I watched the replay.

The hold on the big run was BS when I watched that replay. If that's holding... then what other teams are doing to Quinn is actual criminal activity.

I know I'm jaded toward the Rams... but those were some ticky tack calls at best. I didn't agree with either of them.
^ this
I looked back too and Grob turned to block when he saw Case start his run. He did not really run down field though. Is it 3 yards they give them? And he was 5 yards beyond the LOS? Come on. I would love to see the Seahawks or Panthers linemen when their guy scrambles. They need to let the game play out.

What did you guys think when you saw these 2 great plays on the highlights?....
You didn't see them on ESPN? Of course not. Plays called back by penalty no longer exist. They did not happen....yet they did.

Neither one of those INCREDIBLE plays by Case Keenum will ever be seen again, except by rabid Ram fans watching that game on rewind.

What is the score of that game if the refs lighten up on their Grob gawking? 24-13? Or better? Do you think showing those two gutsy plays by Case in their story line changes the snickering way Keenum is presented in the national narrative?
 

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Reminds me a lot of Tebow with a little bit more consistency but less of an athlete and hardly any velocity on his throws. He's tough, gritty, and has the "it" factor.Case's story may end the same way Tebow's did too.
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A KEENUM THREAD?????


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Does anyone have the stats on sideline learning?
I'd guess Mannion has the most time spent learning on the sidelines with clipboard at the ready --- or is it Keenum? Afterall Keenum is the starter.....
Just trying to figure out how much time it will take before seeing the #1 pick inthe entire NFL draft get the shot they deserve
 

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I think Jim Thomas hit the nail on the head, I don't think we see Goff at all if Keenum keeps winning.

You can argue the merits of that, but I think it squares with what Fisher has shown us as a coach and with his behavior.
 

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Case has done a good job. He looks like your prototypical solid backup QB.

Can't make all the throws and often lacks accuracy but also shows grit and gets a little more accurate when he needs to.
Doesn't make many bonehead plays or interceptions. Gets the team lined up and shows some leadership in the huddle.

If his WR's catch a few balls his stat line vs the Cardinals looks really good.

Uses his legs when needed and gets some extra yards knowing he will take a hit.

Here's to you mr backup journeyman QB guy. Real men of Genius.
 

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I was happy ...
... when Austin Davis threw 17 of 20, 2 TD, 0 INT to beat the Seahawks...
... when Kellen Clemens beat Indy 38-8...
... when Shaun Hill led the team to back-to-back wins of 52-0 and 24-0 ...
... when Nick Foles threw 16 of 24, 3 TD, 0 INT to beat Arizona ...

Now I'm happy to add the time Case Keenum helped the team go 3-1 to open the year.
But I think in the end it's just going to be another line in the same list.
 

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Nice responses guys but seeing few people answer the question: Do you think Sundays game was Case's ceiling or do you think he has room to improve?

I can't imagine his arm or accuracy will improve at all but one thing that could happen is him seeing the field better. I still think there are times where he's not seeing the open guy.
He's had better games with Houston, so it's not his ceiling. We already know it's his physical ceiling, but that's not a bad thing. He can scramble & get yards, he can throw strikes 50+ yards, and he's developing a chemistry with Britt & Quick, so who cares if he's physically limited if he's getting the job done and improving on a weekly basis.

As far as not seeing the open guy, that's a criticism every fan offers about every QB not named Brady or Rodgers. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that I've seen Brady and Rodgers not identify an open receiver on occasion. I wouldn't worry too much about that. Keenum is identifying the mismatches in pre-snap and sometimes he'll lock onto that. Other times I have definitely seen him come off his first read and go through to his 3rd. Focusing on whether or not he's doing that to a fan's level of approval is a waste of time, IMO. But I guess that depends on how a fan wants to spend his time. I'm just not worried about it. He's attempting and hitting deep and intermediate shots now at a clip that some the heavy hitters in the league hit, so I can't complain about it.
 

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I still don't think he's good enough to get them to the playoffs , and that's what we all want to see . Problem is he would have to lose 2 or 3 in a row for Fisher to make a switch and then our playoff chances would be gone . I think we are stuck with him so we will rally around Keenum and play good football.
 

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYards/year/2016/seasontype/2

Somehow he's 23rd and above Aaron Rodgers...theres that....

QBR tells a different tale
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

30 Ryan Tannehill, MIA -4.2 3.1 1.0 0.1 7.7 165 41.2 44.5
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
31 Case Keenum, LA -7.5 -0.2 0.2 0.8 4.5 147 32.8 37.0
32 Marcus Mariota, TEN -8.7 5.4 -5.0 2.1 5.5 173 32.9 34.3

hmm...what do my lying eyes say?????

Really? You're using that fucking qbr bullshit stat? Give yourself an uppercut.

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Does anyone have the stats on sideline learning?
I'd guess Mannion has the most time spent learning on the sidelines with clipboard at the ready --- or is it Keenum? Afterall Keenum is the starter.....
Just trying to figure out how much time it will take before seeing the #1 pick inthe entire NFL draft get the shot they deserve
He has been deemed not ready to go and the team is winning so far.
So, I would say he, by definition, is getting the shot he deserves.
 

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His scrambling hasn't been too shabby either, creating something when all looks lost.

Well, not graceful by any means, but damn effective!

My hope is that Goff is ready soon but, if not ya got to roll with Case.

Me too. My new motto:

In the chase? Roll with Case!

(until he loses again then $%^& him, bring in Goff!) ;)

Continue throwing the ball down field and fix those off target passes to wide open receivers and there wont be too much to complain about Keenum

Fair. Adding in some TA rushing and pitches couldn't hurt either, but you didn't hear it from me because I've been keeping that close to the vest.

I think he has problems locating Tavon Austin down field to allow him to be a real regular deep threat

As did every other NFL QB that tried to hit TA deep. Or maybe TA is too small to fight for the ball, lacks wingspan, and has less than average hands on difficult catches?

I repeat myself ad nauseam, but I like being right. :)

Does anyone really think that Goff takes over without an injury, if this team keeps winning?

I just don't know. Honestly, no idea. Maybe? There IS upside to consider. I know I would be tempted after the bye or in ANY event where we're 2-3 scores up.

The hold on the big run was BS when I watched that replay. If that's holding... then what other teams are doing to Quinn is actual criminal activity.

On point. It's freaking sad what other teams get away with, with Quinn.

There is plenty of room for growth, too, even with Case at QB. Getting the run game on track is the obvious one, but also some better pass pro as this young line continues to gel would be nice.

Exactly. We aren't in mid-season form. There is also some rookie WR talent we haven't seen yet. I'd rather play the Rams now than later.

Reminds me a lot of Tebow with a little bit more consistency but less of an athlete and hardly any velocity on his throws. He's tough, gritty, and has the "it" factor.Case's story may end the same way Tebow's did too.

Tim Tebow...second season...OH, SHIT! We're going to the playoffs people!

Statistically, not his ceiling. In terms of play, probably his ceiling.

Damn Jrry, well said and almost fair! :whistle:

Seriously, watching his time in Texas makes me wonder if there isn't more in the tank.

Just trying to figure out how much time it will take before seeing the #1 pick inthe entire NFL draft get the shot they deserve

Earned. You meant earned. (y)

Now I'm happy to add the time Case Keenum helped the team go 3-1 to open the year.
But I think in the end it's just going to be another line in the same list.

This gives me a sinking feeling in my stomach.

It's either this or that lemonparty thing someone just trolled me with...but definitely one of them.

Keenum is identifying the mismatches in pre-snap and sometimes he'll lock onto that. Other times I have definitely seen him come off his first read and go through to his 3rd.

Yep. He's reading the matchups and going through his reads when he can. He's really pretty close to being more than good enough. Not by a lot, but more.

I think we are stuck with him so we will rally around Keenum and play good football.

Have finer words ever been spoken?

Except, of course, with sincerity. ;)
 
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I was happy ...
... when Austin Davis threw 17 of 20, 2 TD, 0 INT to beat the Seahawks...
... when Kellen Clemens beat Indy 38-8...
... when Shaun Hill led the team to back-to-back wins of 52-0 and 24-0 ...
... when Nick Foles threw 16 of 24, 3 TD, 0 INT to beat Arizona ...

Now I'm happy to add the time Case Keenum helped the team go 3-1 to open the year.
But I think in the end it's just going to be another line in the same list.

Pretty much this. Keenum is too limited to be the long-term solution. Hopefully he can keep scarping out some wins for us, until Goff is ready.