49ers sign Jimmy Garoppolo to 5-year contract

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Honestly the whiners had no other choice. Yes it’s a lot of money for so unproven a QB but did they have another choice? We all know there isn’t a lot of talent on the team but to not pay him leaves a hole at the most important position. What is going to have to happen is they hit big time on their next 2 or 3 drafts while signing some short term deals to free agents and hit big on those too.

The Rams will find themselves in a similar situation in 2 or 3 years. We’re going to pay Donald probably over $20 million a year. In two years we’re going to have to extend Jared, and make champ cry big crocodile tears, and by then we could be talking $30 million aav. In three years time we could see $50 million of a maybe $190 million cap tied to two players. Then you also have Gurley and a couple others getting nice paydays. We also are going to have to draft very well and make some tough choices with our own players. Dont be shocked if starting in 2019 we’re drafting a wr, cb and an olineman with our first three picks a few years in a row.
 

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Honestly the whiners had no other choice. Yes it’s a lot of money for so unproven a QB but did they have another choice? We all know there isn’t a lot of talent on the team but to not pay him leaves a hole at the most important position. What is going to have to happen is they hit big time on their next 2 or 3 drafts while signing some short term deals to free agents and hit big on those too.

The Rams will find themselves in a similar situation in 2 or 3 years. We’re going to pay Donald probably over $20 million a year. In two years we’re going to have to extend Jared, and make champ cry big crocodile tears, and by then we could be talking $30 million aav. In three years time we could see $50 million of a maybe $190 million cap tied to two players. Then you also have Gurley and a couple others getting nice paydays. We also are going to have to draft very well and make some tough choices with our own players. Dont be shocked if starting in 2019 we’re drafting a wr, cb and an olineman with our first three picks a few years in a row.
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Regardless of the structure, Garoppolo should have forced the team to apply the franchise tag before doing a long-term deal. If the 49ers had used the exclusive version of the tag, he could have asked for more than $97 million over the first three years of a long-term deal based on the tag. If they’d opted to go with the non-exclusive tag, it would have been fair to seek $90 million over three years. Either formula likely will be better than what he’ll get under the first three years of the contract he signed.

Apart from the tag providing a better starting point for Garoppolo than simply trying to one-up Matthew Stafford (who averages $27 million per year), there’s value in commencing the process of collecting franchise tags, since a third career tag (whether with the 49ers or another team) would have given Garoppolo significant leverage in the form of a 44-percent raise over his cap number from the prior year.

A little surprised he didn't use the franchise tag leverage. It would have been interesting to see what teams would have been interested. Would have been fun to see the Whiners squirm a little. He would have gotten a better deal.
 

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I think that Garoppolo did the right thing. $75 million guaranteed, with another $60 million or so if he performs, AND young enough to get another big contract if he plays well.

If he'd been franchised, then got hurt, or just wasn't as good as people thought once teams were used to his skillset, then Garappolo would have been out many millions of dollars.

Basically, unless he's stupid, with this contract his great-grandkids are taken care of.
 

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6 TD’s
5 int

2 int vs Rams second string.

So you give him $75 million.

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Honestly the whiners had no other choice. Yes it’s a lot of money for so unproven a QB but did they have another choice? We all know there isn’t a lot of talent on the team but to not pay him leaves a hole at the most important position. What is going to have to happen is they hit big time on their next 2 or 3 drafts while signing some short term deals to free agents and hit big on those too.

The Rams will find themselves in a similar situation in 2 or 3 years. We’re going to pay Donald probably over $20 million a year. In two years we’re going to have to extend Jared, and make champ cry big crocodile tears, and by then we could be talking $30 million aav. In three years time we could see $50 million of a maybe $190 million cap tied to two players. Then you also have Gurley and a couple others getting nice paydays. We also are going to have to draft very well and make some tough choices with our own players. Dont be shocked if starting in 2019 we’re drafting a wr, cb and an olineman with our first three picks a few years in a row.

Yes. You franchise tag him, let him prove himself over 16 games, and then pay him. Worst case scenario, you pay him $30 million per year next year instead of $27.5 million per year this year with the knowledge that he's a great QB.
 

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Yes. You franchise tag him, let him prove himself over 16 games, and then pay him. Worst case scenario, you pay him $30 million per year next year instead of $27.5 million per year this year with the knowledge that he's a great QB.
That's taking a gamble that he signs the franchise tender. Yes I know they get compensation if he does but that leaves them with only CJ Bethard as a QB on the roster. I understand what you're saying but for a new coach and a new GM to not secure the QB that put some fire back in their fan base that would be a dangerous move. I'm not by any means sold on him and hope he flops spectacularly. But there weren't many other good options for them.
 

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Small sample size, huge hype. He did the right thing. Cash in now in case he gets exposed as a pretender or injured.
 

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all of this based on 5 games?
7 games
Thats an awful lot of $ for a QB that has played what 7 NFL games.

Holy crap that is a HUGE amount of guaranteed money for a guy with 7 starts on his resume.

that's a lot for someone who only played 7 games
What, you need 25 games to know if a guy can play? Really???
5 games in 2017.....all wins....7 td's and 5 int's....won all five games.....wait, those numbers sound similar to a certain league MVP?!? How can that be? Where's my boy at?
 

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There isn't really any performance bonuses attached to this deal until 2021 if he get's to the conference title game or 1st or 2nd team All Pro.

Essentially if he is on the team this is almost all guaranteed money.

Wow they better have gotten this right because that's going to be a big cap hit if they have to dump him.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ets-48-7-million-fully-guaranteed-at-signing/

Jimmy G gets $48.7 million fully guaranteed at signing
Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2018

The numbers are out regarding the Jimmy Garoppolo. They appear below, along with a full analysis of the terms and the deal.

1. $7 million signing bonus.

On a five-year deal, the low bonus results in a cap charge of only $1.4 million per year.

2. $28 million fully-guaranteed roster bonus.

For a cap-rich team like the 49ers, this device gives Garoppolo a bunch of money at signing, and chews up all of the cap space immediately, with no proration.

3. 2018 base salary of $6.2 million, fully guaranteed at signing.

The first-year salary in any long-term deal is almost always guaranteed as a practical matter; who’s going to cut the guy the same year they signed him?

4. 2019 base salary of $17.2 million guaranteed for injury at signing, $7.5 million of which is fully guaranteed at signing.

While the breakdown from Adam Schefter of ESPN.com isn’t entirely clear on this point, it appears that the full guarantee vests on April 1, a late (relatively speaking) deadline. The 49ers used the same device in the Colin Kaepernick deal, giving them an extended chance to make a decision about whether to continue the deal.

5. 2020 base salary of $23.8 million, $15.7 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing.

Injury guarantees often are meaningless, but in the event of a serious injury, it’s essentially a free insurance policy. The 2020 injury guarantee apparently becomes a full guarantee on April 1, giving the 49ers some flexibility in determining whether to keep him.

6. 2021 base salary of $24.1 million and 2022 base salary of $24.2 million.

These are non-guaranteed amounts and, essentially, club options for the final two years of the deal.

7. Workout bonuses of $600,000 for 2018 through 2022. (Total value: $3.2 million.)

Garoppolo undoubtedly will meet the annual participation threshold and earn these amounts every year.

8. Per-game roster bonuses of $800,000 for 2018 through 2022. (Total value: $3.2 million.)

While many assume that per-game roster bonuses are money in the bank, an injury can be costly, as Aaron Rodgers learned in 2017. For Garoppolo, every game includes $50,000 that he receives only if he suits up.

9. Further injury guarantee of $7.5 million.

The breakdown from Schefter explains that a $7.5 million injury guarantee applied if Garoppolo “makes it to NFC Championship game or is first- or second-team All Pro.” It’s unclear whether this applies only to the 2021 season or other years of the deal, and there’s no mention of the year(s) in which the incentive applies.

10. The cash flow is $46.2 million through 2018, $61.2 million through 2019, $86.4 million through 2020, $111.9 million through 2021, and $137.5 million through 2022.

Schefter claims that the $61.2 million through two years represents a $10 million bump over what Garoppolo would have made under the franchise tag through 2019. That’s accurate only if the 49ers would have used the non-exclusive tag; if they would have applied the exclusive version of the tag (cutting off another team’s ability to sign him away in exchange for two first-round picks), the gap would have been more like $5 million.

Schefter also says that, after three seasons, Garoppolo “walks away” with $86.4 million. While he’ll indeed make that much over three years (roughly $4 million less than three years of the non-exclusive tag and more than $10 million less than three years of the exclusive tag), Garoppolo won’t be walking away. The 49ers will still hold his rights for two years and $48.3 million — an average of $24.15 million per year. By then, the market for franchise quarterbacks should be well north of $30 million.

For a guy who didn’t get a big-money rookie deal and who has started only seven games, it makes sense to cash in. Still, he could have ultimately done better by forcing two or three years of the tag, especially since 2021 and 2022 would have been the first two years of a market-value contract, not the below-market back end of a five-year deal.

That said, it’s easier for a player who already has banked millions to take that risk. For Garoppolo, a second-round pick in 2014, the safe move arguable was to take the large bird in the hand in lieu of the slightly larger bird in the bush. This dynamic actually makes the willingness of Kirk Cousins to play tag in two straight years even more impressive, given that he entered the league as a fourth-round pick. Two years and $44 million later, he’ll either hit the market unfettered or make $34.47 million if Washington is dumb enough to tag him again.
 

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So....Goff was a bust after 7 games and Jimmy Grope a Hoe is the Gazillion dollar Truth after 7 games.
Got it.
 

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There isn't really any performance bonuses attached to this deal until 2021 if he get's to the conference title game or 1st or 2nd team All Pro.

Essentially if he is on the team this is almost all guaranteed money.

Wow they better have gotten this right because that's going to be a big cap hit if they have to dump him.
The big thing is his weekly roster bonus that's another $12.8 million a year.
 

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That's taking a gamble that he signs the franchise tender. Yes I know they get compensation if he does but that leaves them with only CJ Bethard as a QB on the roster. I understand what you're saying but for a new coach and a new GM to not secure the QB that put some fire back in their fan base that would be a dangerous move. I'm not by any means sold on him and hope he flops spectacularly. But there weren't many other good options for them.

That's not a gamble. He has to sign it if he wants to play.
 

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That's not a gamble. He has to sign it if he wants to play.
It's a gamble that he signs elsewhere on the franchise tag. Granted they get compensated for it but a team like the Browns that has more cap space and double the draft picks could easily offer him a contract they couldn't or wouldn't match. It's also gambling that you don't sour the relationship with the player and with the fans.
 

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here's to 5 years of JG Vs JG

So much in this. . . but we have these two.

"He went to Jared"

This one isn't quite right on but it pops into my head:

JG Wentworth we have "JG Whitworth"