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Wow, that was quick. I thought he might drag it out.
Didn’t want to start another thread because it doesn’t warrant one but I wonder if Carson Wentz isn’t the starter in Minn come regular season.
He would have ended up playing Ferragamo and we would have won big with Vince and Walsh.
El Chapo Jr
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This guy is so talented yet an amazingly stupid fuckin idiot. KC sure knows how to pick em.
Unlike McVay, Reid has always taken chances on questionable character guys. Sometimes it works for awhile, other times it falls apart quickly.
El Chapo Jr
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I honestly can't ultimately blame organizations at the end of the day. KC just seems to luck into these knuckle heads. You would hope some of these young men would see this as an extremely rare and special opportunity to live out a dream. Crazy when they squander it over bullshit.
WestCoastRam
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If by luck into knuckleheads you mean draft guys with flags on their character then by all means yes!
It's not luck at all.
It's not good luck to avoid them.
It's not bad luck to end up with them.
It's either a lack of due diligence or not caring if they have character issues.
El Chapo Jr
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Yeah but is having faith in someone young to turn their shit around hard to fathom? And yes, there is luck aspect tied to it. You mean to tell me there aren't people out there that were a mess but with the proper support and help turned it around? There's no way to tell how a young man will turn out once they "make it" and get paid. Of course teams can weigh the risk aspect, but there is no way to tell what that individual will likely do in the long run. I'll even go to a different sport to give an example of why there's luck involved. Ja Morant.....grew up in a stable 2 parent household and even went to private school yet somehow got into stupid shit as a pro. Sorry to say, but I think its shitty to think teams don't think they can help these young men. As I said, at the end if the day, the fault ultimately falls on these individuals. Its called accountability, something the world sorely lacks.
El Chapo Jr
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They can't all be choir boys and and even the Rams have taken on so called "red flags".... we've been fortunate enough that our players haven't gone off the rails. Kinda funny to hear the response when we had our own receiver act like a knucklehead recently even though there was nothing indicating he'd do anything like that. He's obviously not on Rice's level at all, but luck does play into it. We are lucky the situation with Puka didn't go worse/turn out worse. I'll throw in DeMarcus Robinson as a bonus just for the hell of it.
El Chapo Jr
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McVay has taken chances but Reid has arguably taken many more. If we are being honest though, what coach hasn't. Guess everyone already forgot how 4 pillars turned out?
It's called vetting and either not doing it, or doing it, and deciding a bad character guy is worth the risk.
I honestly can't remember many, if any, bad character guys that McVay gambled on. Maybe OBJ was a concern, but he never exhibited any problems.
Seems like all their draft picks have been pretty much choir boys over the last several years.
Now, they have gambled in injury plagued guys in the past, but not character guys since McVay has been here. Maybe I am forgetting someone.
I don't consider much of what you're describing as luck. I consider it risk assessment. Every team will have different risk tolerance. Teams with higher risk tolerance will have more "bad luck."
I agree that at the end of the day how someone turns out is on that individual, but that's not mutually exclusive with saying that teams by and large should know what they're getting.
El Chapo Jr
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Ramsey, Peters, Talib.....yes every player is vetted. The teams don't control how a player conducts themselves therefore they are taking a chance. Its literally the definition of luck. Teams are simply hedging their bets.
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El Chapo Jr
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Sorry but I just disagree, its totally luck in my opinion on the teams behalf. They are taking a leap of faith with higher risk guys, its either turns out good or bad. If a high risk guy is taken and turns out to be a model citizen, a lot of people will describe that team as lucking out based on how that player was preceived.