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Greed?
Networks pay for the rights to all sports
Right. But those sports aren't providing free access to local channels for charity. If CBS and Fox stopped paying today, the NFL would move it to the next highest bidder.
 
For me, I'm not conditioned to hate the owners. Love that Stan is ours.
My point was that the NFL game is just getting out of reach for the average fan, even on TV.
So are entertainment events like concerts, though.
I'd rather pay $300 - $400 to see a Rams game than say, a Taylor Swift or an Eagles show.
Others would only pay that to do the opposite.
I get all that and my point is the cost of the game isn't going up just because of the owners. It goes up because of them and the players. They have a CBA designed to make them each money and it's divided up pretty evenly and when costs go up for us revenue and shares of it go up for each side. There isn't one bad side they're both bad

IMO
 
I get all that and my point is the cost of the game isn't going up just because of the owners. It goes up because of them and the players. They have a CBA designed to make them each money and it's divided up pretty evenly and when costs go up for us revenue and shares of it go up for each side. There isn't one bad side they're both bad

IMO
Agreed
 
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Owners take 100% of the financial risk. Good grief

No, they don’t. Once an owner, they use leverage to finance at rates we’d die to get. The risk is so low they can borrow at sub 3%.

And even if things went tits up, they don’t lose their homes or anything really because of trusts and other legal entities to protect all of their stuff.

Risk implies possible loss. The only possible loss is the loss of the team and that’s not gonna happen, so nothing is actually at risk.

“Owners take 100% of the financial risk” is so divorced from the actual reality that I’m not sure how to respond. No one wants to see a semi-detailed breakdown (and you know my autistic ass is more than ready and capable to provide reams of data and documentation on this), but what you’re saying is just patently false.

It’s one of those things where the generalized notion is actually the opposite of how it actually works in real life.
 
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YouTube is free. NFL + is $100. That is all.

Doesn’t cover the games on Prime, ESPN or games not in your broadcast area.

Also, NFL+ doesn’t play live games in the US which for many is a deal breaker.
 
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but ask the NBA and MLB what happens when you put up barriers for the younger generations to watch your product.
I know a lot are complaining here, but they're making these moves with the younger generation in mind. My kids have more subscriptions than I do with half the money I make.

All of them, have Prime, Netflix, and YouTube, so it would literally be no additional cost to them.
 
I know a lot are complaining here, but they're making these moves with the younger generation in mind. My kids have more subscriptions than I do with half the money I make.

All of them, have Prime, Netflix, and YouTube, so it would literally be no additional cost to them.

They don't have bills to pay and kids to feed.

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Was leaning against this until the article brought up using the system to flag Derick Hall for stepping on Kevin Dotson's ankle.
Neutral on this, now.
If they keep it to extremely obvious penalties I am okay with it.
 
Doesn’t cover the games on Prime, ESPN or games not in your broadcast area.

Also, NFL+ doesn’t play live games in the US which for many is a deal breaker.
You can share YouTube with one other person & I do that which cuts the cost in half. Also fortunate that my wife is a football fan so diverting funds in that area is always agreed upon.
 
You can share YouTube with one other person & I do that which cuts the cost in half. Also fortunate that my wife is a football fan so diverting funds in that area is always agreed upon.
College kids get a YouTube Sunday Ticket discount. I think I paid $175 this year. Find one that can supply their student id. I’ve been using my daughters for last 4 years. Only 1 device can view at any particular time.
 
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College kids get a YouTube Sunday Ticket discount. I think I paid $175 this year. Find one that can supply their student id. I’ve been using my daughters for last 4 years. Only 1 device can view at any particular time.
The regular is like $380l, which $190 for 2.