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Wanting it to badly be direct evidence doesn't make it that. Now you want evidence because you can't find any :laugh1: :laugh4:......


View: https://youtu.be/5KQvzCP8I3E?si=yJvUFnr9HpcrUmIa

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You are either being obtuse on purpose or you think these guys are operating in an environment where they don't have to be flexible, nor do they have to tweak their plans or their approach to address their needs.

They were facing two issues. Finding their future QB and adding immediate impact to get them over the hump this year.

They couldn't work out a trade prior to the draft for Garrett, mostly because Cleveland wasn't going to trade him until June 1st due to cap implications. The sane with AJ Brown. So then knowing that, they had to look at the 26' and 27' drafts as their best opportunity to find a top QB prospect.

Of course by draft night, the understanding that any trade for Garrett or AJ Brown, or Max Crosby, would have to include a 27' first rd pick. So taking Simpson solved problem 1 in their mind. It helped tgat they reportedly really liked him and identified him early.

Thus leaving problem 2 to being addressed with the future draft capital that was now no longer required to draft Stafford's heir apparent. Of course then that's exactly what they did.

It's a pretty basic strategy just looking at the situation. Snead then made the comments above after the draft about getting the QB now, and freeing up future draft capital.
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me that.... insults tend to come when like a hot and ready Lil Caesars pizza when frustrated folks can't seem to back up things presented as facts and someone challenges that. I provided direct quotes from Les Snead showing how bad he wanted Garrett but yet somehow there's this thought that he'd stop instantly because he can only do so if he drafted Ty Simpson. If you show me something factual showing this, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
 
In that video, Snead literally says they started talking about draft compensation BEFORE the draft. Well shit :laugh4:
They were talking 2 yrs ago apparently, but it became obvious, after they tweaked his contract, that any trade would happen after June 1st.

And regardless, a trade didn't happen by the time pick 13 went on the clock. So at that point they took Simpson, which still allowed them to shop their future #1 for an impact player for this year, whether Garrett, AJ, or Crosby. They were big name hunting to get an impact player for Stafford's potential last year.

Had Cleveland taken pick 13 and a future #2, then the Rams would still have the 27' first rd pick for a QB. That would have accomplished their plan as well. Impact player, and resources to get a young QB prospect.

This shouldn't be that hard to understand.
 
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Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me that.... insults tend to come when like a hot and ready Lil Caesars pizza when frustrated folks can't seem to back up things presented as facts and someone challenges that. I provided direct quotes from Les Snead showing how bad he wanted Garrett but yet somehow there's this thought that he'd stop instantly because he can only do so if he drafted Ty Simpson. If you show me something factual showing this, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
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They were talking 2 yrs ago apparently, but it became obvious, after they tweaked his contract, that any trade would happen after June 1st.

And regardless, a trade didn't happen by the time pick 13 went on the clock. So at that point they took Simpson, which still allowed them to shop their future #1 for an impact player for this year, whether Garrett, AJ, or Crosby. They were big name hunting to get an impact player for Stafford's potential last year.

Had Cleveland taken pick 13 and a future #2, then the Rams would still have the 27' first rd pick for a QB. That would have accomplished their plan as well. Impact player, and resources to get a young QB prospect.

This shouldn't be that hard to understand.
Yup still having a hard time proving that we wouldn't have sniffed or tried to trade for Garrett after chasing him for years because of Simpson. Yup, makes a lot of sense :laugh4:
 
I'm not one of those that believes drafting Simpson led to trading for Garrett
I actually heard it from Les in an interview - so yeah, he kinda did. And no - I’m not going to search for it. It wasn’t like the pick made it a done deal but that it opened up the possibility.
 
I actually heard it from Les in an interview - so yeah, he kinda did. And no - I’m not going to search for it. It wasn’t like the pick made it a done deal but that it opened up the possibility.
Kinda isn't saying much. I almost kinda won the lotto the other day too man hahahaha...... I'm not going to ask you to show me proof as I've said it a million times already. People are interpreting things into what they wanna believe and that's cool, I just don't. That last part, "It wasn't like the pick made it a done deal" is exactly what I'm talking about. Snead wanted Garrett really bad and we all know that man is aggressive when pursuing players so to me, for him to say, "woah, I wouldn't have done that if we hadn't drafted Simpson" is silly. Snead would have found a way to add Garrett because Garrett is just such a game changer.
 
Yup, going hard after a Superbowl is incompetent because a team would be willing to trade for Myles Garrett....gotcha......we don't even know what we got in Simpson yet either although so far so good from the glimpses

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No. Going hard for a Super Bowl isn't incompetent at all. Put that straw away.

But, going hard for a Super Bowl with total disregard for the future is incompetent. That's why you've never seen it done.

And in this league success in the future requires talent at the QB position.

Will Simpson prove to be the answer? We hope that the scouting department has done it's job and found a gem.

But, the likelihood of finding that QB outside of the 1st round or via a trade without the necessary assets to make a deal for one is FAR less likely.

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No. Going hard for a Super Bowl isn't incompetent at all. Put that straw away.

But, going hard for a Super Bowl with total disregard for the future is incompetent. That's why you've never seen it done.

And in this league success in the future requires talent at the QB position.

Will Simpson prove to be the answer? We hope that the scouting department has done it's job and found a gem.

But, the likelihood of finding that QB outside of the 1st round or via a trade without the necessary assets to make a deal for one is FAR less likely.

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So incompetent to go hard after a Superbowl when they are so hard to win in the first place isn't incompetence. The Rams were thought to do so just very recently but how quickly we all forget. I would confidently back Snead if he did so do to his drafting acumen. How are you sure giving away first rounders is throwing away the future? Stop acting like we've ever even had them or not used them to trade for great players. Last I checked, Matt Stafford is our quarterback not Simpson and we don't even know if that guys walking away yet (yes I know different debate). Also kind of weird when you're sending me gifs of yourself not cool bro :laugh1: (just playfully giving you shit here by the way)
 
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So incompetent to go hard after a Superbowl when they are so hard to win in the first place isn't incompetence. The Rams were thought to do so just very recently but how quickly we all forget. I would confidently back Snead if he did so do to his drafting acumen. How are you sure giving away first rounders is throwing away the future? Stop acting like we've ever even had them or not used them to trade for great players. Also kind of weird when you're sending me gifs of yourself not cool bro :laugh1: (just playfully giving you shit here by the way)
You keep conveniently dropping of the "with total disregard to the future" part.

But Yes. Incompetence.

Snead could trade away 1st rounders in the past WHEN HE HAD (or believed he had) HIS QUARTBACK IN PLACE for a few seasons.

The position is just too important for the franchise and one might even say job security.

I must admit that I am baffled at how this is so hard to get.:shock:
 
Yes. Incompetence.

Snead could trade away 1st rounders in the past WHEN HE HAD (or believed he had) HIS QUARTBACK IN PLACE for a few seasons.

The position is just too important for the franchise and one might even say job security.

I must admit that I am baffled at how this is so hard to get.:shock:
And I'm baffled that someone would be baffled at going all in for a Superbowl. Tell me, why do they play football though? Trading for Garrett without Simpson being drafted wouldn't have been mortgaging any future but hey, do you

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