OFFICIAL 2025 Rams Defense Thread

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Two 1st round picks. With Forbes crashing down to earth, I think 1 has to be a corner unless we have plans to address it via free agency. Don't know who the options are this year.
I would do everything I can to draft Johnson, the SDSU kid. He's exactly what this defense needs.
 
Two 1st round picks. With Forbes crashing down to earth, I think 1 has to be a corner unless we have plans to address it via free agency. Don't know who the options are this year.
The secondary will have a lot of work done to it in free agency. It has to because they have 6 free agents.
 
I get the logic but I disagree with and detest the approach. I don't believe in playing scared or conservative until later in the game. At the 5 minute mark? Ok. But before that when your offense is moving the ball at will, keep going.

How many leads are we going to lose this year before we recognize that games and momentum can shift quickly? A 16 point lead is still only two possessions. Your analysis above doesn't allow for huge mistakes on defense or special teams, which is exactly what happened.

Nah, if you have a dominant offensive unit, Step On Their Throat!
you said it: huge mistakes on defense and special teams.

Sure you can say the offense could have been more aggressive = but that is far from the main reason we lost.
 
you said it: huge mistakes on defense and special teams.

Sure you can say the offense could have been more aggressive = but that is far from the main reason we lost.
I have no interest in a main reason. Identifying one serves no purpose. All three units should be better; hopefully coaches are identifying problems and learning lessons for all three units.

Fire Blackburn (after the season)
Be more aggressive on offense and defense when you're nursing a lead.
 
When was Forbes ever good?

He's always been average at his best and below average for the better part of the season. But last nights game wasn't on him at all. It was our ST's and our inept offense in the 4th quarter.
Stop it, he had a real nice stretch this year. He has made real strides, glad he is on out team.
Without him, we have TWO losses to Seattle and ZERO shot at home field.
 
I’m with you @DzRams

When your hi powered offense and defense puts the score at 30-14, it’s on you to run clock and maintain SOMETHING.

The opposing offense is now in try hard mode, and is going to get some chunks and score some late points. That’s what garbage time is.

It transitions from garbage time to “oh shit” when you punt four times and settle for those 3 n outs.

The best and most realistic way to rise above all that is to just fucking hold the ball and use clock. Run it, pass it, use your playbook. Not dive right, dive left, incomplete, PUNT.

The Rams are not good at all in this mode. I thought they made some strides vs the Lions…nope.

I’m not excusing the defense but come on. It’s football 101.
 
Bending but not breaking as an approach probably has more to do with your confidence in your corners and coverage options vs the draws they have that given week, than anything else. I really don't think McVay favors that shit, but rather embraces it because he has to.

Now if Trader Les can go get us a top corner stud in the draft and maybe some additional young and fresh blood back there, maybe they can start leaving them on an island time to time without getting BBQd.
 
Bending but not breaking as an approach probably has more to do with your confidence in your corners and coverage options vs the draws they have that given week, than anything else. I really don't think McVay favors that shit, but rather embraces it because he has to.

Now if Trader Les can go get us a top corner stud in the draft and maybe some additional young and fresh blood back there, maybe they can start leaving them on an island time to time without getting BBQd.
But didn't we run some bend not break even when we had Ramsey? We weren't super aggressive even then although we did often leave Ramsey on an island.
 
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Bending but not breaking as an approach probably has more to do with your confidence in your corners and coverage options vs the draws they have that given week, than anything else. I really don't think McVay favors that shit, but rather embraces it because he has to.

Now if Trader Les can go get us a top corner stud in the draft and maybe some additional young and fresh blood back there, maybe they can start leaving them on an island time to time without getting BBQd.
Yep, does anyone really want to see Darious Williams or Forbes on an island?
 
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I’m with you @DzRams

When your hi powered offense and defense puts the score at 30-14, it’s on you to run clock and maintain SOMETHING.

The opposing offense is now in try hard mode, and is going to get some chunks and score some late points. That’s what garbage time is.

It transitions from garbage time to “oh shit” when you punt four times and settle for those 3 n outs.

The best and most realistic way to rise above all that is to just fucking hold the ball and use clock. Run it, pass it, use your playbook. Not dive right, dive left, incomplete, PUNT.

The Rams are not good at all in this mode. I thought they made some strides vs the Lions…nope.

I’m not excusing the defense but come on. It’s football 101.
500 yards snd 37 ptd against #2 defense in the nfl

the offense had a cold spell but offense was not the main culprit for this liss
 
Forbes will be back.. and that's fine. You just need to bring in *more* talent.. if he's your second best corner, it's not the end of the world.. it's just not great when he's your best corner.
Gotta draft at least two CBs, imo.
I'm big on trading back and getting a couple.. I think you can spend a 2nd and third and be in really good shape.. compared to where they are now.
 
But didn't we run some bend not break even when we had Ramsey? We weren't super aggressive even then although we did often leave Ramsey on an island.
Yes we did. And Ramsey in those latter days with us was holding his ass off vs the wideouts with real quicks. The top echelon he could no longer draw 1v1 in man. His best matchups were the physical types who weren't scary in the wheels dept. But also he was elite in using those tricks of the trade like quick grabs, reroutes, etc.

We've needed corners for a while now. And that soft approach will continue until we get some real ones.
 
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Yes we did. And Ramsey in those latter days with us was holding his ass off vs the wideouts with real quicks. The top echelon he could no longer draw 1v1 in man. His best matchups were the physical types who weren't scary in the wheels dept. But also he was elite in using those tricks of the trade like quick grabs, reroutes, etc.

We've needed corners for a while now. And that soft approach will continue until we get some real ones.
I think you're right, which may be more dismaying.

We've played the soft approach for nearly McVay's entire tenure. Could be evidence that he doesn't value elite corners since we haven't spent money or premium draft picks to obtain one other than Ramsey.
 
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500 yards snd 37 ptd against #2 defense in the nfl

the offense had a cold spell but offense was not the main culprit for this liss
It doesn't really matter if the offense is the main culprit, a secondary or thirdary culprit. Sometimes, we need one of the units to not a culprit at all.
 
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500 yards snd 37 ptd against #2 defense in the nfl

the offense had a cold spell but offense was not the main culprit for this liss
Offense has to keep scoring, getting first downs and eating clock just like the defense has to hold the other team from them. Both have to happen to win games. Add in ST and you as we all know need all 3 phases. Some days the D will carry us as they have and some the O will. This week everybody left things undone and we lost.
 
I think you're right, which may be more dismaying.

We've played the soft approach for nearly McVay's entire tenure. Could be evidence that he doesn't value elite corners since we haven't spent money or premium draft picks to obtain one other than Ramsey.
No doubt. He definitely believes in the defensive front first. Which was proven by our win in '21. But maybe he'll be willing to invest in the defense this next offseason and they can make that unit absolutely dominant.

Put a good corner group behind that defensive front and you have a great chance to win that top seed because they'd be giving his offense the ball back quicklike and in a hurry.
 
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Offense has to keep scoring, getting first downs and eating clock just like the defense has to hold the other team from them. Both have to happen to win games. Add in ST and you as we all know need all 3 phases. Some days the D will carry us as they have and some the O will. This week everybody left things undone and we lost.
Yeah just saying if you offered this board 37pts for the rams...99 out 100 would have taken that as enough to win
 
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Yeah just saying if you offered this board 37pts for the rams...99 out 100 would have taken that as enough to win
And after the 1st TD in the 4th the offense had what 4 3 and outs then a drive with the missed FG? They went from moving up and down the field to not being able to run out the clock to do their part. I get the frustration at losing when we scored 30 pts in regulation. But you have to be able to close things out and it's a common theme with McVay's offenses not doing that. Also the defense gave up less than the Offense scored with that ST TD.