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What about raising vet minimum? It's supposed to raise a little bit in 2025 but still under 1 mil. What if they raised it to like 3m? Could help curve the out of control contracts a bit at least. Could raise practice squad salary as well.
 
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Tron said:
What about raising vet minimum? It's supposed to raise a little bit in 2025 but still under 1 mil. What if they raised it to like 3m? Could help curve the out of control contracts a bit at least. Could raise practice squad salary as well.
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The minimum salary has been collectively bargained for until 2031
It’s based on service time
 
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Didn't say anything about it being likely they would get more. Only commenting on their approach. Which has been faulty for some time, or perhaps more accurately they should have been looking out for the average player a bit more as this trend has gotten worse and worse.
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Yup.
QB is different than other positions.
Due to the guaranteed portion of deals, it would be difficult to cap positions
I think something reasonable would be to cap the % of the cap for QB but allow owners to exceed that amount to re-sign their player.
 
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Let them pay big bucks for these quarterbacks if that's what they want to do.

As the tweet points out, spending all that money on a QB is not a sure fire path to build a winning franchise. In fact it can backfire. As my wife reminds me, I'm just a fool on a couch, but if I were building a team, I'd spend the money on a strong OL and draft a mid-round QB every year. One of these mid-round QBs is bound to stick with protection from a good OL and by extension a good run game.

Of course who wouldn't want a Mahomes or Stafford, but as it stands QBs are way over-paid. A well paid QB can be an albatross. Teams just have to find more efficient and cost effective ways to win. Let the market sort it out.
 
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it's not these other qbs fault the league decided to give all the calls to brady's team and once he retired carried the torch to mahommes' team. they like having that one guy. it's hard to win when the other team gets all the 50-50 calls.

all these teams would be a lot worse without a qb. that's the price you have to pay to have a competitive team.

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Ok, so let’s say you limit the amount a QB can make. That money is then gonna go to the next elite position like WR, edge or LOT. You still have the same problem. A handful of super important guys making the money.
You’d basically need to have a set max percentage for ALL positions. I just don’t see it happening.
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I didn't say to limit only what a QB could make. Obviously this is something the union needs to think through. I agree it would need to be all positions. And that should be something in the interest of most of the players, who constitute most of the union.

Again though what I'd expect the players to do is use this to try to grab more cap percentage. But maybe they won't do that, we'll see. Either way I don't think they're looking out for the players as they should be.

Also I'm not altruistic or anything as it pertains to QBs making bank. Just wearing my "average player" hat here. Doubt anything happens in fact until players start getting really pissed off about this. How long will that take? No idea. Maybe they'll just sit back and take it while a small group of players run the table. We'll see.
 
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LMAO. I love this. Now the cowboys are going to have to match or top 55mill

Stafford is a fucking stud
 
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Stafford is smart. Make just enough to where the org can still build a team around you.
 
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Let them pay big bucks for these quarterbacks if that's what they want to do.

As the tweet points out, spending all that money on a QB is not a sure fire path to build a winning franchise. In fact it can backfire. As my wife reminds me, I'm just a fool on a couch, but if I were building a team, I'd spend the money on a strong OL and draft a mid-round QB every year. One of these mid-round QBs is bound to stick with protection from a good OL and by extension a good run game.

Of course who wouldn't want a Mahomes or Stafford, but as it stands QBs are way over-paid. A well paid QB can be an albatross. Teams just have to find more efficient and cost effective ways to win. Let the market sort it out.
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Then as an owner, you'd be fired because you'd constantly be fielding 7 to 9 win teams with a WC playoff game as a ceiling. If so many 1st round QBs don't pan out...how many mid round guys do?

You need to find and secure your QBs when you have a good one. Every year teams and fans convince themselves they got a QB so long everything else around him is good. Then you end up with Sam Howell or Derek Carr. At least with Jordan Love and Tua you got a good QB that can take you far.
 
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Overpaying mediocrity is a major problem for teams at QB right now. They project and rationalize but all that equates into is not drafting high enough and not winning big games.

Rams have a backup making chump change who is comparable with some of those clowns up top of the QB pay chart. Truth is they are smarter than those other teams IMO.
 
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