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Franchise killers if they don’t pan out.thats what people say who have it.
And Burrow alone counts for most of those SB appearances and PO winsThis says it all. Good QBs who haven’t won shit yet. I’m all for paying for performance but teams are paying for potential. Mahomes and Stafford being exceptions.
Burrow, Goff and Hurts.And Burrow alone counts for most of those SB appearances and PO wins
Yeah it seems to me like the player union is going to have to decide if they are about the average player or just the elites. I'd be concerned with teams putting so much into so few if I was in the union.So the avg of the top 8 QB salaries is 20% of the team's cap
2019 was 18%
2014 was 15%
I dont believe in having salary limits but this is getting out of hand.
Yeah it seems to me like the player union is going to have to decide if they are about the average player or just the elites. I'd be concerned with teams putting so much into so few if I was in the union.
They'll try for a separate QB cap of course, because greed. But what I'd do is push for a percentage limit of the cap to try to keep things from getting more out of whack.
Stafford would've been at the top of a list like this if they made it a few years ago. Lions made him the highest paid player in NFL history in 2017. Record guaranteed at signing, signing bonus and three year cash flow. He hadn't won a playoff game yet when they did that.This says it all. Good QBs who haven’t won shit yet. I’m all for paying for performance but teams are paying for potential. Mahomes and Stafford being exceptions.
Stafford would've been at the top of a list like this if they made it a few years ago. Lions made him the highest paid player in NFL history in 2017. Record guaranteed at signing, signing bonus and three year cash flow. He hadn't won a playoff game yet when they did that.
This of course was the fear when they fought over revenue sharing in the last CBA. Increased cap space being spent on top players, not for the vested vets who were supposed to benefit. CBA in place until 2031 so I wouldnt expect any changes.Yeah it seems to me like the player union is going to have to decide if they are about the average player or just the elites. I'd be concerned with teams putting so much into so few if I was in the union.
They'll try for a separate QB cap of course, because greed. But what I'd do is push for a percentage limit of the cap to try to keep things from getting more out of whack.
The players? They fought and won, and all the extra money ended up going to the top 2-3 players on the team and the rest have to stick with what they got, or less.... Cant blame the owners greed for this onethe players have to fight tooth and nail for the money they get. where is this extra money for qbs coming from? the owners aren't giving it to them.
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The players? They fought and won, and all the extra money ended up going to the top 2-3 players on the team and the rest have to stick with what they got, or less.... Cant blame the owners greed for this one
Didn't say anything about it being likely they would get more. Only commenting on their approach. Which has been faulty for some time, or perhaps more accurately they should have been looking out for the average player a bit more as this trend has gotten worse and worse.the players have to fight tooth and nail for the money they get. where is this extra money for qbs coming from? the owners aren't giving it to them.
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Yeah I don’t understand why there is all this talk about a separate QB cap/system and how that would help non-QBs get paid more. It’s still the same overall pot of money that the players get. Creating something separate isn’t going to magically help others get paid more.I'm not blaming owners at all. I'm saying a lot of time and effort goes to agreeing on a precentage of the pie the players get from the revenue.
Whatever money the qbs get will always come out of that pot. There will be no extra money coming their way from their team.
Unless your name is tom Brady and you own a recovery centre/ Cafe/ whatever the hell his establishment was and the team sent every player over there to "recover" every week.
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It's not complicated. There is a set percentage of cap that goes to the players. The union has never had an eye on what percentage of that cap goes to what player position, because they have never had to limit it. But we are progressing to a point where you will have a very small percentage (QBs and elite playmakers) making all the money.Yeah I don’t understand why there is all this talk about a separate QB cap/system and how that would help non-QBs get paid more. It’s still the same overall pot of money that the players get. Creating something separate isn’t going to magically help others get paid more.
The only way to do so is limiting the amount/percentage that a QB can be allowed to get.
AgreedIt would be more fair to 80% of the players to spread the money around. Think of all the veterans who have to play for minimums because they love the game or the veterans who retire rather than play for a minimal salary. I don't know what the answer is but there has to be better way. Star players already make more than most because of endorsements. Surely someone can come up with a better system for the players union when the next contract comes up. After all, QBs have no more say in the next union contract than any other union member.
Ok, so let’s say you limit the amount a QB can make. That money is then gonna go to the next elite position like WR, edge or LOT. You still have the same problem. A handful of super important guys making the money.It's not complicated. There is a set percentage of cap that goes to the players. The union has never had an eye on what percentage of that cap goes to what player position, because they have never had to limit it. But we are progressing to a point where you will have a very small percentage (QBs and elite playmakers) making all the money.
I honestly don't really care. But my point is the player union should care.
And yes the only answer is limiting what the QBs make. At least that is the simplest and probably best way to do it. Certainly it is a topic worthy of discussion.