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[WestCoastRam]

I actually like this, a lot. Get to LA and sit behind Stafford a year or so, learn from Stafford, and McVay + Scheelhaase and LaFleur.

A fresh start would do wonders. Kid has a lot of talent and could get out of the toxic Jets.


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You mean learn a lot from the OC he got fired?

 

[WestCoastRam]

Kahlil Mack had a good season, however 6 of his 17 sacks came in one game. In his previous three years he had, 9,6,&8.

I’d like to know his pressure rate and run stop %. I doubt he is worth what he will get paid.

Pressure rate is where it's at baby.

 

[OldSchool]

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Pressure rate is where it's at baby.

ND Mack was low in pressures for how much he costs

 

[WestCoastRam]

23 mill actually
Could add a couple void years and spread it out if they wanted, just seems a lot of $$ for a team. I think he gets cut so Chargers get the cap savings and then you could see him signed for less

Yeah, one wonders where the "trade" rumors are coming from... psssst... from inside the house!

 

[Merlin]

Kahlil Mack had a good season, however 6 of his 17 sacks came in one game. In his previous three years he had, 9,6,&8.

I’d like to know his pressure rate and run stop %. I doubt he is worth what he will get paid.

I think he'd be like Miller or Suh in that he'll "turn it on" as he sniffs the postseason. So closer you get to the playoffs you'll get the work rate stuff. Mack can definitely do that.

Re: pressures... Mack had 36 pressures. Nick Bosa, for reference purposes, had 44. AD had 31 from the interior. In Mack's first two seasons he was in the 40s.

Seems like Mack would be a classic Snead/McVay move if he is cut. Also I would guess the Rams get more from him snap to snap than Staley did. Staley is all brains and his defense underachieved. So if they go get Mack off the street I would be quite excited but of course he needs to be cut vice traded.

 

[dang]

The Rams under McVay are strategically evolving. Initially it was F them picks as they traded away many picks to get Peters, Fowler, Ramsey, Cooks, Miller, Stafford, Michel, etc. Recently it was stock piling draft picks and picking up good inexpensive FAs like Witherspoon, Robinson, Wentz, Mayfield, etc. Both strategies worked. I’d be wrong if I guess what’s next but I have a feeling we are in for a an era of unparalled sustained Rams success.

 

[OldSchool]

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[PhillyRam]

I think he'd be like Miller or Suh in that he'll "turn it on" as he sniffs the postseason. So closer you get to the playoffs you'll get the work rate stuff. Mack can definitely do that.

Re: pressures... Mack had 36 pressures. Nick Bosa, for reference purposes, had 44. AD had 31 from the interior. In Mack's first two seasons he was in the 40s.

Seems like Mack would be a classic Snead/McVay move if he is cut. Also I would guess the Rams get more from him snap to snap than Staley did. Staley is all brains and his defense underachieved. So if they go get Mack off the street I would be quite excited but of course he needs to be cut vice traded.

Yeah, I think they would be smart to pace him. He shares some snaps with Mathis, Hampton, and or a rookie. Big games he plays more. Playoffs, certainly he is the guy assuming he stays healthy.

 

[WestCoastRam]

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[Tano]

I think Jonnu Smith would be a good fit for the Rams

 

[Merlin]

CHSN

Chicago Sports Network

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They will end up regretting that. Fields is an upside bomb.

 

[WestCoastRam]

They will end up regretting that. Fields is an upside bomb.

I don't love Fields but I don't hate him either. If the offense of the Bears wasn't so bad with receivers running into each other and and two years of not letting Fields used designed runs to make things easier (they eventually did, but not initially) than I'd say the experiment is over but I think there's some juice to squeeze here.

I do think the Shannahan/McVay system will get the most out of him.

 

[dieterbrock]

They will end up regretting that. Fields is an upside bomb.

The thing about Fields and the Georgia connection, I'm surprised he's not perceived as a villain there.
I mean it was all well and good when he went to UGA, local boy stays home. And its not like he just transferred out like a Joe Burrow, he had to burn the place down with accusations of racism and death threats so he'd be allowed to leave

 

[Corbin]

Mahomes had his career high in rushing attempts this past season. His 2 lowest rushing attempts was his first 2 seasons.
Aaron Rodgers ran a lot when he first started, so did Steve Young.. Nothing to do with color.

I think you're literally proving my point. Mahomes had his career high in rushing attempts yet no one calls him a running QB with an average per attempt of 5.2 while Jackson has an average of 5.5 this last year. My point is it's a lazy attempt by people with the narrative calling Jackson " a RB who throws the ball" versus " a QB who can run".

Lamar is still more of a threat with his legs than his arm.

IDK 3678 yards, 67.2% comp %, 24/7 TD/INT ratio might say otherwise to at least being a balanced QB.

Fields isnt a good passer. Sure he has a cannon when he lets it rip, but I dont know if he cant read defenses or is just too slow to process. Wont be the last guy with all the talent in the world but doesnt have what's between the ears to make it big.
Mariota, Z Wilson, Wentz etc and personally, I'm thinking Trevor Lawrence doest have it either

Won't say I'm going to die on a hill for Justin Fields but he's done a pretty decent job with what he's had to deal with his first two years.

If the most effective part of a QB's game is running the ball then chances are pretty good he's a running QB. Apparently you think that's an insult it's not meant to be. Jackson also IMO is a running QB. I happen to think he's far ahead of Fields as a thrower but then I don't think Fields is a very good thrower. I'd not want my team to trade for him. I've said in the past though if he were cut I'd like to sign him but I doubt that ever happens. I think he needs to be taught to be a better thrower but he never got that in Chicago. I would like to see what McVay and before he left Robinson could have done with him. Not sure though if I were a Falcons fan I'd want to trade for him.

It's not that I think it's an insult but it does have a connotation associated with the the term ' running QB' just like ' system QB' does, and we all know how everybody felt when a lot of people in the league labeled Jared as a ' system QB'.

I'm curious asf to see if Raheem signs him and if he does how he's able to develop further with a proper OC, and support pieces which will have at least 2-3 years to prove themselves under Raheem.

 

[dieterbrock]

I think you're literally proving my point. Mahomes had his career high in rushing attempts yet no one calls him a running QB with an average per attempt of 5.2 while Jackson has an average of 5.5 this last year. My point is it's a lazy attempt by people with the narrative calling Jackson " a RB who throws the ball" versus " a QB who can run".

Lamar ran the ball 150 times last year and averages over 11 rushes per game in his career, Mahomes averages less than 4 rushes per game. Only 37 guys had more rushing attempts than Jackson last year, 1 of them another running QB Jalen Hurts.
I'm a huge Jackson fan but until he wins post season games with his arm, he's a run first QB

Won't say I'm going to die on a hill for Justin Fields but he's done a pretty decent job with what he's had to deal with his first two years.

Worse passing stats than Trubisky who is universally considered a bust

 

[Kupped]

I think you're literally proving my point. Mahomes had his career high in rushing attempts yet no one calls him a running QB with an average per attempt of 5.2 while Jackson has an average of 5.5 this last year. My point is it's a lazy attempt by people with the narrative calling Jackson " a RB who throws the ball" versus " a QB who can run".

IDK 3678 yards, 67.2% comp %, 24/7 TD/INT ratio might say otherwise to at least being a balanced QB.

Won't say I'm going to die on a hill for Justin Fields but he's done a pretty decent job with what he's had to deal with his first two years.


It's not that I think it's an insult but it does have a connotation associated with the the term ' running QB' just like ' system QB' does, and we all know how everybody felt when a lot of people in the league labeled Jared as a ' system QB'.

I'm curious asf to see if Raheem signs him and if he does how he's able to develop further with a proper OC, and support pieces which will have at least 2-3 years to prove themselves under Raheem.

I'm with you on the Lamar discourse.
There were some interesting things going on with the play calling by Ravens in that playoff game.. and 3 turnovers was the biggest problem, imo. Lamar had 2, so that's on him as well.. but turnovers aren't about whether he's a run-first or pass-first QB.. it's just about taking care of the ball.

Fields will be VERY interesting to watch at his next stop. Not sure what he'll be.. but don't think we can judge him based on the shit show in Chicago.

 

[OldSchool]

I think you're literally proving my point. Mahomes had his career high in rushing attempts yet no one calls him a running QB with an average per attempt of 5.2 while Jackson has an average of 5.5 this last year. My point is it's a lazy attempt by people with the narrative calling Jackson " a RB who throws the ball" versus " a QB who can run".

IDK 3678 yards, 67.2% comp %, 24/7 TD/INT ratio might say otherwise to at least being a balanced QB.

Won't say I'm going to die on a hill for Justin Fields but he's done a pretty decent job with what he's had to deal with his first two years.


It's not that I think it's an insult but it does have a connotation associated with the the term ' running QB' just like ' system QB' does, and we all know how everybody felt when a lot of people in the league labeled Jared as a ' system QB'.

I'm curious asf to see if Raheem signs him and if he does how he's able to develop further with a proper OC, and support pieces which will have at least 2-3 years to prove themselves under Raheem.

It's negative to you it seems. I never said he can't develop into a decent passer. Quite the opposite I wanted McVay to sign him if cut to see what they can do with him. But again right now he's not a good passer of the football. We can blame whoever we want for that but he's yet to develop that part of the game. But I wouldn't if given the option trade for him right now and pay him

 

[Merlin]

The thing about Fields and the Georgia connection, I'm surprised he's not perceived as a villain there.
I mean it was all well and good when he went to UGA, local boy stays home. And its not like he just transferred out like a Joe Burrow, he had to burn the place down with accusations of racism and death threats so he'd be allowed to leave

I think he comes with more risk than a draft pick from this class. Some of these kids are going to be good QBs by the time they get to the years in the league Fields has under his belt. So I'd be trusting my ability to find one of them and develop them and set things up around them to ensure that happens.

For myself the key is would I bet my job on Fields? Hell no. I have too many reservations with him. I would rather identify one of these kids and go all in on him and enjoy the benefit of a cheap contract as I build around him.

 

[snackdaddy]

In the words of Mark Twain, facts are stubborn but statistics are more pliable. Lamar Jackson's passing numbers are a product of what he does with his legs. How many big plays were created by his running ability? He buys more time to throw as good or better than anyone with that mobility.

Just like when some people say Brock Purdy is elite because of the numbers. He's had the benefit of all pro talent around him. He throws a 4 yard pass that results in a 50 yard TD. He gets credit for 50 yards and a touchdown. The stats say he threw a great pass. He can't make throws the elite guys can but the system and talent doesn't need him to.

 

[Merlin]

It's not that I think it's an insult but it does have a connotation associated with the the term ' running QB' just like ' system QB' does, and we all know how everybody felt when a lot of people in the league labeled Jared as a ' system QB'.

The problem with running QBs is that being able to run the ball does not eliminate the need to be able to win from the pocket. Whether you are a running threat or not you must win from the pocket in the NFL if you want to win titles.

Why is this true? Because NFL defenses are so specialized. They will knuckle down on you in the playoffs at some point and contain your ass in the pocket and if you cannot win from the pocket you're done.

Now of course it is possible for any QB to win a Super Bowl if the defense is good enough. Look at the epic Bears & Ravens defenses in their SB runs with dipshit QBs. But those defenses are outliers. You can put every resource into defense every year and not end up with units that good. So generally speaking and from a team building aspect when you look at the QB position they need to at least project to win from the pocket. And if you take a kid who's a big time run threat as long as you project him to win from the pocket then that run dimension is an additional advantage, as we have with Mahomes. Because Mahomes could run a lot more if he wanted to, but throwing is more efficient and if you contain him in the pocket he can still beat you.

This is why I don't believe in Fields. He's jumpy as fuck when he's contained. It's a special trait for guys to have the balls to stand in a pocket while the rush is coming in, and to fight that natural flight response by still seeing the field and making good decisions in the moment. He's had 3 years to develop. I don't care that he's only 24. For me it's moreso that he just doesn't look like he's got the right natural skills. If he's your QB then you need to do like Roman did with Krapperdick and half field read and roll him out to success and know that you need a top defense to maybe get it done.