Tyreek Hill probably gonna be available......would anyone consider him as a vet addition? Just spit balling here since that what we all typically do lol

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Tyreek Hill probably gonna be available......would anyone consider him as a vet addition? Just spit balling here since that what we all typically do lol
Yeah but McSnead were stupid in letting him go from the trade threadThey realized he's an early down thumper. Sure he can blitz well. Not too bad in his drops. But his range is limited, he's got a bum knee, and I suspect an overinflated opinion of his ability.
Rozeboom and Speights are getting better every week and, at times, have shown flashes of being a good LB unit. The LB room certainly is no longer a glaring hole being exploited to great effect every single week and losing us games like it was in September and October. Until they stop improving/appear to hit their ceiling, I would avoid spending free agent money at the LB position. Draft capital, sure. But I don't want to risk getting saddled with a bad contract and/or a washed vet, at a none critical position, when what we have in-house continues to be on an upward trajectory.
What I'd do next to Speights is draft a mid to late round SS type who has good box film. Of course I have no idea what Shula prioritizes in that spot, maybe he wants physicality.One LB that had a heck of a year is Zach Baun in Philly. Will probably get paid a lot, but would be a nice addition as an off ball LB that is good against the run, in coverage, and as a blitzer. Would be a nice vet presence next to Speights, but probably not willing to pay for that position as we have seen.
Letting him go for nothing was surely not their best moveYeah but McSnead were stupid in letting him go from the trade thread![]()
Maybe the question is why the Rams don't do what Philly does and go out and sign some vets to "cheap" "prove it" contracts?One LB that had a heck of a year is Zach Baun in Philly. Will probably get paid a lot, but would be a nice addition as an off ball LB that is good against the run, in coverage, and as a blitzer. Would be a nice vet presence next to Speights, but probably not willing to pay for that position as we have seen.
Baun is interesting.. He'd never done anything of note.. and Fangio switched his position and he blew up.Maybe the question is why the Rams don't do what Philly does and go out and sign some vets to "cheap" "prove it" contracts?
Philly did it this year with:
Baun (now the #1 rated LB in the league) - cap number $1.6mil this year - free agent
Becton (14th of 72 rated G in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
Barkley (obvious what he's meant) - cap numbers (3.8, 6.3 and 10mil in '24, '25 and '26)
Washington did it with:
Bobby Wagner (2nd rated LB in the league) - cap number $6.5mil this year - free agent
Detroit with:
Kevin Zeitler (2nd rated G in the league) - cap number $6mil this year - free agent
Others:
Poona Ford (5th rated DL in the league) - cap number $1.8mil this year - free agent
Calais Campbell (7th rated DL in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
With the 13.7 cap hit $ the Rams gave Jonah Jackson, they could have signed:
- the #1 rated LB in the league (Baun / 1.6mil)
- the #14 rated G in the league (Becton / 2mil)
- the #8 rated RB in the league (Barkley / 3.8) I know 3 year deal, but 3.8 this year
- the #5 rated DL in the league (Ford / 1.8mil) or - the #7 rated DL in the league (Campbell / 2mil)
- the number 28 rated T in the league (Lucas / 2.8mil) great backup when Havs / AJ are out instead of Boom/ Mc
AND . . .
- the #5 rated TE in the league (Jonnu Smith / 2.1mil)
There are a lot of others . . .
We did get something for trading him. Titans got more for sure but Seattle was desperate. And now 3 teams couldn't sign the guy so letting him go after the season would have gotten us nothing cause it sure sounds like he wants a lot of money that I don't see the Rams in recent history being willing to pay.Letting him go for nothing was surely not their best move
Love where we’re at now but we sure could have used Jones this year
Yes. They need sideline to sideline speed.What I'd do next to Speights is draft a mid to late round SS type who has good box film. Of course I have no idea what Shula prioritizes in that spot, maybe he wants physicality.
All I know is that speed is something we badly need on both sides of the ball. Adding that even at ILB would be helpful I think.
Didn’t they do that with Cutl and Jackson? Two year deals aren’t much different from one year deals.Maybe the question is why the Rams don't do what Philly does and go out and sign some vets to "cheap" "prove it" contracts?
Philly did it this year with:
Baun (now the #1 rated LB in the league) - cap number $1.6mil this year - free agent
Becton (14th of 72 rated G in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
Barkley (obvious what he's meant) - cap numbers (3.8, 6.3 and 10mil in '24, '25 and '26)
Washington did it with:
Bobby Wagner (2nd rated LB in the league) - cap number $6.5mil this year - free agent
Detroit with:
Kevin Zeitler (2nd rated G in the league) - cap number $6mil this year - free agent
(basically they traded JJ for Zeitler and saved 7.7mil in cap space, oh and got the 2nd rated G while we got the 64th)
Others:
Poona Ford (5th rated DL in the league) - cap number $1.8mil this year - free agent
Calais Campbell (7th rated DL in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
With the 13.7 cap hit $ the Rams gave Jonah Jackson, they could have signed:
- the #1 rated LB in the league (Baun / 1.6mil)
- the #14 rated G in the league (Becton / 2mil)
- the #8 rated RB in the league (Barkley / 3.8) I know 3 year deal, but 3.8 this year
- the #5 rated DL in the league (Ford / 1.8mil) or - the #7 rated DL in the league (Campbell / 2mil)
- the number 28 rated T in the league (Lucas / 2.8mil) great backup when Havs / AJ are out instead of Boom/ Mc
AND . . .
- the #5 rated TE in the league (Jonnu Smith / 2.1mil)
There are a lot of others . . .
With the available cap and the benefit of hindsight, the Rams could have killed it. Yet, without the benefit of hindsight, those "prove it" deals are a shot in the dark. We tried one with Tre'Davious White. It didn't pan out. The simple truth is you usually have to pay for quality. Sometimes, you get lucky. Sometimes, you don't. The Rams signed Jonah Jackson because they wanted to build an elite OL. They fortunately nailed the Limmer pick and ended up not needing Jackson. Nobody could have known that when they signed Jackson.Maybe the question is why the Rams don't do what Philly does and go out and sign some vets to "cheap" "prove it" contracts?
Philly did it this year with:
Baun (now the #1 rated LB in the league) - cap number $1.6mil this year - free agent
Becton (14th of 72 rated G in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
Barkley (obvious what he's meant) - cap numbers (3.8, 6.3 and 10mil in '24, '25 and '26)
Washington did it with:
Bobby Wagner (2nd rated LB in the league) - cap number $6.5mil this year - free agent
Detroit with:
Kevin Zeitler (2nd rated G in the league) - cap number $6mil this year - free agent
(basically they traded JJ for Zeitler and saved 7.7mil in cap space, oh and got the 2nd rated G while we got the 64th)
Others:
Poona Ford (5th rated DL in the league) - cap number $1.8mil this year - free agent
Calais Campbell (7th rated DL in the league) - cap number $2mil this year - free agent
With the 13.7 cap hit $ the Rams gave Jonah Jackson, they could have signed:
- the #1 rated LB in the league (Baun / 1.6mil)
- the #14 rated G in the league (Becton / 2mil)
- the #8 rated RB in the league (Barkley / 3.8) I know 3 year deal, but 3.8 this year
- the #5 rated DL in the league (Ford / 1.8mil) or - the #7 rated DL in the league (Campbell / 2mil)
- the number 28 rated T in the league (Lucas / 2.8mil) great backup when Havs / AJ are out instead of Boom/ Mc
AND . . .
- the #5 rated TE in the league (Jonnu Smith / 2.1mil)
There are a lot of others . . .
Well, I have been saying I think Young could move inside and then draft another lankier true speed rushing edge. Young would add speed and power inside next to Speights.What I'd do next to Speights is draft a mid to late round SS type who has good box film. Of course I have no idea what Shula prioritizes in that spot, maybe he wants physicality.
All I know is that speed is something we badly need on both sides of the ball. Adding that even at ILB would be helpful I think.
I know second guessing is really easy . . . but I will be for signing vets who have been highly graded by PFF and other teams have let go because they're replacing them with younger guys, if only to "fill in roster" with quality.With the available cap and the benefit of hindsight, the Rams could have killed it. Yet, without the benefit of hindsight, those "prove it" deals are a shot in the dark. We tried one with Tre'Davious White. It didn't pan out. The simple truth is you usually have to pay for quality. Sometimes, you get lucky. Sometimes, you don't. The Rams signed Jonah Jackson because they wanted to build an elite OL. They fortunately nailed the Limmer pick and ended up not needing Jackson. Nobody could have known that when they signed Jackson.
What they didn't know is that the generally reliable and durable Rob Havenstein would struggle with injuries for much of the year. They didn't know that Noteboom, a good swing OT in the past, would play like shit. Hindsight is a valuable thing.
(You also put way too much stock in PFF grades.)
The Rams took bigger hits this year so many of those guys can ve let go without a lot of dead cap or at least no additional cap hit to get rid of them.Yes. They need sideline to sideline speed.
Didn’t they do that with Cutl and Jackson? Two year deals aren’t much different from one year deals.
I like the way Speights and Rozeboom have played in the 2nd half of the season.One LB that had a heck of a year is Zach Baun in Philly. Will probably get paid a lot, but would be a nice addition as an off ball LB that is good against the run, in coverage, and as a blitzer. Would be a nice vet presence next to Speights, but probably not willing to pay for that position as we have seen.
Yeah...I'm not sure what the league was thinking with Zeitler. It's probably because he's up there in age but as you say, he's been highly grade every year.I know second guessing is really easy . . . but I will be for signing vets who have been highly graded by PFF and other teams have let go because they're replacing them with younger guys, if only to "fill in roster" with quality.
Sorry you don't view PFF highly, I do.
You said, "Nobody could have known that when they signed Jackson." - PFF "knew"
Kevin Zeitler - rated highly by PFF every year of his career/a vet G you can count on (6 mil)
Jonah Jackson- not highly rated by PFF in any year (13.7 mil)
Grades this year:
Zeitler - 87.1 (2nd rated G)
JJ - 53.4 (65th rated G)
L-O-L. PFF knew that the Rams would draft a sixth round rookie who would be so effective that he'd relegate a good IOL like Jonah Jackson to the bench? Because that's the actual substance of my quote. And the answer is, no, they did not.I know second guessing is really easy . . . but I will be for signing vets who have been highly graded by PFF and other teams have let go because they're replacing them with younger guys, if only to "fill in roster" with quality.
Sorry you don't view PFF highly, I do.
You said, "Nobody could have known that when they signed Jackson." - PFF "knew"
Kevin Zeitler - rated highly by PFF every year of his career/a vet G you can count on (6 mil)
Jonah Jackson- not highly rated by PFF in any year (13.7 mil)
Grades this year:
Zeitler - 87.1 (2nd rated G)
JJ - 53.4 (65th rated G)
Well, we actually don't "know" anything when it comes to Jackson. He was signed as a guard, moved to center, then hurt.. then they realized they had drafted a real center who was better at *that* position.I know second guessing is really easy . . . but I will be for signing vets who have been highly graded by PFF and other teams have let go because they're replacing them with younger guys, if only to "fill in roster" with quality.
Sorry you don't view PFF highly, I do.
You said, "Nobody could have known that when they signed Jackson." - PFF "knew"
Kevin Zeitler - rated highly by PFF every year of his career/a vet G you can count on (6 mil)
Jonah Jackson- not highly rated by PFF in any year (13.7 mil)
Grades this year:
Zeitler - 87.1 (2nd rated G)
JJ - 53.4 (65th rated G)