Who you got? Dak Prescott vs Jared Goff

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Even Cowboys fans know that Prescott is hot garbage. At least the fans here in Austin do. Some of them are delusional. If there's more than one, then they're all delusional. If you get one of them one on one though, they about it. Elliot is that whole offense and they know it.
 

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I doubt there is a team in the league that wouldn't take Goff.

NBC media types have been poisoned by the Chris Simms-led groupthink.
 

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Ranking all 32 NFL quarterbacks, from best to worst

Ranking NFL quarterbacks in 2019 is a tricky task, as young stars are meshing with future Hall of Famers. How do the league's best (and worst) passers stack up going into this season?

The practice of ranking NFL quarterbacks has never been tougher, because the league has never had this many strong QBs at once. In 2019, the NFL continues to benefit from an intriguing intersection of future Hall of Famers and rising superstars.

Sporting News' NFL team - writers Vinnie Iyer, Bill Bender and Tadd Haislop - did not shy away from the challenge of this increasingly difficult offseason tradition. Before you see our current list, however, be wary of our criteria.

MORE: Updated power rankings after NFL Draft

These rankings are based on how each QB performed last season and the upside of how each might perform in 2019. No matter how many Super Bowl rings or MVP awards a QB has won, or the number of efficient passing seasons he has posted in the past, history is a small part of the equation. We thought about where each QB ended up last season in terms of effectiveness, production and durability, and then we thought even more about how his talent and offensive support set him up for success (or lack thereof) this season.

Get it? Got it? Good. Let's get into SN's NFL quarterback rankings for 2019.

The top tier
(Elite QBs; best MVP candidates.)

  • #1

    Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    The reigning league MVP is seeing some personnel change around him, but his play last season proved how much he can elevate his backs, receivers and tight ends. Mahomes has raised the standard for all young guns coming into the league.

  • #2

    Aaron Rodgers, Packers
    Rodgers is due for a durable, MVP-like season, and he will feel rejuvenated with new, offensive-minded coach in Matt LaFleur letting him loose with a versatile receiving corps. LaFleur also will use the Green Bay's strengths up front and in the backfield to full advantage.

  • #3

    Tom Brady, Patriots
    No matter how one measures his play, the GOAT was "only" superhuman last season, showing mild decline at age 41. Brady will be getting used to life without Rob Gronkowski in 2019 and leaning a little more on the run, but it's hard to rank him any lower until he retires.

  • #4

    Drew Brees, Saints
    Brees was right there with Mahomes and Brady in the MVP conversation last season, and he is one of those legends many will grow to appreciate more years down the road when they look back on how prolific he was. Now at 40, Brees in a couple years could even become known as a better age-defier than Brady is now.

  • #5

    Russell Wilson, Seahawks
    Wilson has had a roller-coaster offseason, first getting his big contract and then losing his longtime go-to guy in Doug Baldwin. But here's to a QB who consistently puts his team on his back, right arm and legs. Wilson will need to do even more of that in 2019.

  • #6

    Andrew Luck, Colts
    With his shoulder fully mended, his offensive line now a wall and his immersion into a passing game that maximizes his intelligence complete, Luck is back as the QB everyone knew was a can't-miss, mental and physical specimen for the position.

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    The second tier

    (Slightly more dependent but still great QBs helped by fine offenses.)

  • #7

    Philip Rivers, Chargers
    Rivers looks like a young 37 with his ironman status. His two seasons with coach Anthony Lynn in Los Angeles have produced stellar play, throwing it back to his late 20s.

  • #8

    Matt Ryan, Falcons
    Ryan's MVP year in 2016 was written off as a late-career anomaly when he struggled under Steve Sarkisian the very next season. In 2018, Ryan quietly rounded back into that form with similar numbers. Now with a familiar new coordinator in Dirk Koetter, expect the QB to adapt well and find comfort quickly.

  • #9

    Baker Mayfield, Browns
    This is not just more Cleveland hype for 2019. Mayfield put together a terrific rookie season, one that could have been even better had Hue Jackson allowed him to compete for the job in the preseason, or had Freddie Kitchens been coaching him all the way. Now Kitchens is doing just that, and Mayfield has an elite No. 1 wideout in Odell Beckham Jr.

  • #10

    Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers
    No, we did not put Big Ben behind Baker just to stir conversation in the AFC North. Given current trajectories, it made little sense to go the other way around. Roethlisberger will be impacted by the absence of Antonio Brown, and the Steelers will lean more on the running game and defense this season to compensate for the fade in their QB's athleticism and ability to carry the team. Big Ben is still a fine, winning gunslinger, but going forward, Mayfield has the edge in intangibles.

  • #11

    Carson Wentz, Eagles
    Wentz, a physical and athletic freak who got strong MVP consideration in 2017 before his knee injury, would be ranked higher if not for concerns about his durability going into Year 4. He has a good chance to quickly change that narrative this season. The Eagles no longer have a good backup plan, and they are investing more in Wentz's playmakers and protection.

  • #12

    Jared Goff, Rams
    The notion that Goff is a system QB is not an insult; he should not apologize for his coach tailoring an offense to his strengths and allowing him to operate with the best wide receiver trio in the NFL. Goff proved last season he can get the job done even when other parts of the offense are not working. It just comes with more streakiness than consistency.

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    The third tier

    (Younger QBs who have shown flashes and are on the cusp of greatness.)

  • #13

    Deshaun Watson, Texans
    Considering Watson has been running for his life behind what have been some of the NFL's worst pass-protecting lines, he has done well to survive and find ways to make plays. With the Texans' investments at tackle and with better overall health among his targets, Watson in 2019 should have his best passing season yet, with less dependency on scrambling at the first sign of trouble.

  • #14

    Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    Prescott dazzled as a rookie in 2016 and slumped as a sophomore in 2017. Last season, he was closer to his rookie form in a year that largely landed between both extremes. Prescott got hot in the second half of the season once he clicked with new No. 1 wideout Amari Cooper, creating a trickle-down effect that should continue with more legitimate overall weapons in 2019.

  • #15

    Mitchell Trubisky, Bears
    Trubisky felt the free-wheeling groove in Matt Nagy's offense last season, and he compensated for the passing lumps he took with fearless running and smart, short-to-intermediate distributing to an array of targets. For Chicago to go further in the playoffs, its QB will need to show more confidence.

  • #16

    Jimmy Garoppolo, 49ers
    Jimmy G was a tough QB to rank coming off a torn ACL, but before he was injured last September, he showed signs of his ability to light up a defense. He returns to a more loaded offense with Tevin Coleman, Deebo Samuel and Jalen Hurd adding to Dante Pettis, George Kittle, Marquise Goodwin and Jerick McKinnon. Expect Garoppolo to pick up where he left off (and then some) in his true Year 2 under coach Kyle Shanahan.

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    The fourth tier

    (Older QBs with some standout accomplishments, but pressure to perform in 2019 is on.)

  • #17

    Matthew Stafford, Lions
    Rumors have suggested Detroit recently thought about replacing Stafford and/or is thinking about replacing him in the near future. The Lions finally have succeeded reigning in the high-volume gunslinger as they have shifted toward a more run-oriented offense. Stafford will continue to miss Golden Taint, but he will appreciate how a player like T.J. Hockenson can help relieve pressure.

  • #18

    Kirk Cousins, Vikings
    Cousins was another tough QB to rank, but his first season in Minnesota was not nearly the expensive bust it has been made out to be. With no reliable protection, a lack of a key third target and more coaching-staff changes, for Cousins to bounce back in 2019, he needs to connect with big plays downfield more consistently and cut down on the ill-timed mistakes.

  • #19

    Cam Newton, Panthers
    Newton is entering 2019 with concerns about his throwing shoulder and coming off a season he was not healthy enough to finish. Given the current landscape of QBs in the NFL, the 2015 league MVP being ranked in the middle of the pack is not disrespect; it's reality. Last season, Newton did improve from 2017 with a better completion percentage and yards per attempt, but he still ranked No. 17 in passer rating (and 20th in ESPN's QBR and 23rd in Pro Football Focus' QB grades). In 2019, with offensive coordinator Norv Turner having the desired running game down with Christian McCaffrey, Newton should benefit from D.J. Moore and his other quick weapons in the downfield-passing aspect of the offense.

  • #20

    Jameis Winston, Buccaneers
    It was tempting to rank Winston higher just because Bruce Arians seems like a coach who can get the best out of the QB. But Winston got toggled with Ryan Fitzpatrick last season because he kept committing turnovers with sloppy passing, enough for the Bucs to think about starting over at QB in 2020. Winston was supposed to be a can't-miss QB as the No. 1 overall pick in 2015, but it's now or never for him to tap into his potential. If anyone can turn Winston into a Big Ben clone, it should be Arians.

  • #21

    Marcus Mariota, Titans
    Here is another frustrating QB to rank. Mariota has been through the wringer with offensive schemers, and health has not been on his side. Neither has game-planning in one of the league's most run-heavy offenses. Tennessee has invested more in his targets with wide receivers Adam Humphries and A.J. Brown to complement Corey Davis, but we can't totally believe in Mariota until we see him respond.

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    The fifth tier

    (Second-year QBs trying to make the leap, plus a supersub trying to make it as a starter.)

  • #22

    Sam Darnold, Jets
    Darnold last season had an underrated receiving corps with Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa and Chris Herndon, and now he has the ultimate backfield outlet in Le'Veon Bell. He is the kind of smart, pro-style passer new coach Adam Gase can mold.

  • #23

    Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    Jackson was trying to figure things out as a passer last season, yet he still managed to lead Baltimore to a division title. The drafting of Marquise Brown and Miles Boykin suggests the Ravens are OK letting Jackson throw more downfield without curbing his special athleticism.

  • #24

    Nick Foles, Jaguars
    Foles has had success in Philadelphia, but it's been a different story elsewhere in his seven-year career. There are some favorable elements for him in Jacksonville, but many of those are rooted in the running game and defense. Foles is bound to return to his streaky nature as a downfield passer.

  • #25

    Josh Allen, Bills
    Allen last season put up some pleasing fantasy stats because he produced while running with reckless abandon, adding some big plays with his big arm later in his rookie year. There is plenty of style in Allen's game; now we will see if there's Year 2 substance behind Buffalo's dedication to improving the offensive line and making both the backfield and receiving corps deeper.

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    The sixth tier

    (QBs who have been adequate but are fading fast.)

  • #26

    Andy Dalton, Bengals
    Dalton gets an extension of his starting status in Cincinnati with Zac Taylor giving the offense a fresh, wide-open look. The Bengals hope that development, plus a good supporting skill cast, can push Dalton closer to his ceiling. But that's still pretty low in relation to the QBs above; Dalton remains a dependent QB regardless.

  • #27

    Ryan Fitzpatrick, Dolphins
    The Fitzmagic was rediscovered for stretches in Tampa Bay, where the Buccaneers simply let him chuck the ball all over the field for Dirk Koetter and Todd Monken. The streaky, well-traveled veteran is bound to return to more journeyman fill-in status in a different offense, where he will be challenged to keep his bridge gig ahead of Josh Rosen.

  • #28

    Derek Carr, Raiders
    Coach Jon Gruden is sticking with Carr, hoping the big changes to the receiving corps (Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams, Hunter Renfrow) and a promising rookie feature back (Josh Jacobs) can smooth out the QB's recent bumpy ride. In trying to live up to his big contract, Carr's lack of consistency in accuracy and decision-making has let him down.

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    The seventh tier

    (QBs who have won Super Bowls, but age has caught up to them.)

  • #29

    Eli Manning, Giants
    Manning's deteriorating physical skills are evident. He is keeping the job for now because he is an established leader for the Giants' gradual transition to Daniel Jones, for whom Manning is the ideal mentor.

  • #30

    Joe Flacco, Broncos
    Flacco's big arm is not as booming anymore. He will need to come through more with the mental aspects of his game to contribute effectively as a bridge QB in an offense built around its running game. He will feel the heat of Drew Lock while trying to keep the pocket warm for the rookie.

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    The top rookies

    (QBs we're getting to know as pros.)

  • #31

    Kyler Murray, Cardinals
    Coach Kliff Kingsbury promises not to hold back the offense for Murray, looking to stretch the field both vertically and horizontally. Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk, David Johnson, Andy Isabella and Hakeem Butler give Murray favorable targets on every level to make that happen. The trick will be Murray harnessing his electricity to match a higher degree of difficulty in the NFL.

  • #32

    Dwayne Haskins, Redskins
    Haskins needs to prove he does not have happy feet in the pocket, but rather the presence to stand tall and deliver strong, accurate throws while under pressure. Physically and arm-wise, he is ready to play soon.

  • #33

    The rest
    (Other notable QBs.)

    33. Case Keenum, Redskins

    34. Tyrod Taylor, Chargers

    35. Josh Rosen, Dolphins

    36. Ryan Tannehill, Titans

    37. Nick Mullens, 49ers

    38. Blake Bortles, Rams

    39. Daniel Jones, Giants

    40. Drew Lock, Broncos
 

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Ranking all 32 NFL quarterbacks, from best to worst

Ranking NFL quarterbacks in 2019 is a tricky task, as young stars are meshing with future Hall of Famers. How do the league's best (and worst) passers stack up going into this season?

The practice of ranking NFL quarterbacks has never been tougher, because the league has never had this many strong QBs at once. In 2019, the NFL continues to benefit from an intriguing intersection of future Hall of Famers and rising superstars.

Sporting News' NFL team - writers Vinnie Iyer, Bill Bender and Tadd Haislop - did not shy away from the challenge of this increasingly difficult offseason tradition. Before you see our current list, however, be wary of our criteria.

MORE: Updated power rankings after NFL Draft

These rankings are based on how each QB performed last season and the upside of how each might perform in 2019. No matter how many Super Bowl rings or MVP awards a QB has won, or the number of efficient passing seasons he has posted in the past, history is a small part of the equation. We thought about where each QB ended up last season in terms of effectiveness, production and durability, and then we thought even more about how his talent and offensive support set him up for success (or lack thereof) this season.

Get it? Got it? Good. Let's get into SN's NFL quarterback rankings for 2019.

The top tier
(Elite QBs; best MVP candidates.)

  • #1

    Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    The reigning league MVP is seeing some personnel change around him, but his play last season proved how much he can elevate his backs, receivers and tight ends. Mahomes has raised the standard for all young guns coming into the league.

  • #2

    Aaron Rodgers, Packers
    Rodgers is due for a durable, MVP-like season, and he will feel rejuvenated with new, offensive-minded coach in Matt LaFleur letting him loose with a versatile receiving corps. LaFleur also will use the Green Bay's strengths up front and in the backfield to full advantage.

  • #3

    Tom Brady, Patriots
    No matter how one measures his play, the GOAT was "only" superhuman last season, showing mild decline at age 41. Brady will be getting used to life without Rob Gronkowski in 2019 and leaning a little more on the run, but it's hard to rank him any lower until he retires.

  • #4

    Drew Brees, Saints
    Brees was right there with Mahomes and Brady in the MVP conversation last season, and he is one of those legends many will grow to appreciate more years down the road when they look back on how prolific he was. Now at 40, Brees in a couple years could even become known as a better age-defier than Brady is now.

  • #5

    Russell Wilson, Seahawks
    Wilson has had a roller-coaster offseason, first getting his big contract and then losing his longtime go-to guy in Doug Baldwin. But here's to a QB who consistently puts his team on his back, right arm and legs. Wilson will need to do even more of that in 2019.

  • #6

    Andrew Luck, Colts
    With his shoulder fully mended, his offensive line now a wall and his immersion into a passing game that maximizes his intelligence complete, Luck is back as the QB everyone knew was a can't-miss, mental and physical specimen for the position.

    -

    The second tier

    (Slightly more dependent but still great QBs helped by fine offenses.)

  • #7

    Philip Rivers, Chargers
    Rivers looks like a young 37 with his ironman status. His two seasons with coach Anthony Lynn in Los Angeles have produced stellar play, throwing it back to his late 20s.

  • #8

    Matt Ryan, Falcons
    Ryan's MVP year in 2016 was written off as a late-career anomaly when he struggled under Steve Sarkisian the very next season. In 2018, Ryan quietly rounded back into that form with similar numbers. Now with a familiar new coordinator in Dirk Koetter, expect the QB to adapt well and find comfort quickly.

  • #9

    Baker Mayfield, Browns
    This is not just more Cleveland hype for 2019. Mayfield put together a terrific rookie season, one that could have been even better had Hue Jackson allowed him to compete for the job in the preseason, or had Freddie Kitchens been coaching him all the way. Now Kitchens is doing just that, and Mayfield has an elite No. 1 wideout in Odell Beckham Jr.

  • #10

    Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers
    No, we did not put Big Ben behind Baker just to stir conversation in the AFC North. Given current trajectories, it made little sense to go the other way around. Roethlisberger will be impacted by the absence of Antonio Brown, and the Steelers will lean more on the running game and defense this season to compensate for the fade in their QB's athleticism and ability to carry the team. Big Ben is still a fine, winning gunslinger, but going forward, Mayfield has the edge in intangibles.

  • #11

    Carson Wentz, Eagles
    Wentz, a physical and athletic freak who got strong MVP consideration in 2017 before his knee injury, would be ranked higher if not for concerns about his durability going into Year 4. He has a good chance to quickly change that narrative this season. The Eagles no longer have a good backup plan, and they are investing more in Wentz's playmakers and protection.

  • #12

    Jared Goff, Rams
    The notion that Goff is a system QB is not an insult; he should not apologize for his coach tailoring an offense to his strengths and allowing him to operate with the best wide receiver trio in the NFL. Goff proved last season he can get the job done even when other parts of the offense are not working. It just comes with more streakiness than consistency.

    -

    The third tier

    (Younger QBs who have shown flashes and are on the cusp of greatness.)

  • #13

    Deshaun Watson, Texans
    Considering Watson has been running for his life behind what have been some of the NFL's worst pass-protecting lines, he has done well to survive and find ways to make plays. With the Texans' investments at tackle and with better overall health among his targets, Watson in 2019 should have his best passing season yet, with less dependency on scrambling at the first sign of trouble.

  • #14

    Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    Prescott dazzled as a rookie in 2016 and slumped as a sophomore in 2017. Last season, he was closer to his rookie form in a year that largely landed between both extremes. Prescott got hot in the second half of the season once he clicked with new No. 1 wideout Amari Cooper, creating a trickle-down effect that should continue with more legitimate overall weapons in 2019.

  • #15

    Mitchell Trubisky, Bears
    Trubisky felt the free-wheeling groove in Matt Nagy's offense last season, and he compensated for the passing lumps he took with fearless running and smart, short-to-intermediate distributing to an array of targets. For Chicago to go further in the playoffs, its QB will need to show more confidence.

  • #16

    Jimmy Garoppolo, 49ers
    Jimmy G was a tough QB to rank coming off a torn ACL, but before he was injured last September, he showed signs of his ability to light up a defense. He returns to a more loaded offense with Tevin Coleman, Deebo Samuel and Jalen Hurd adding to Dante Pettis, George Kittle, Marquise Goodwin and Jerick McKinnon. Expect Garoppolo to pick up where he left off (and then some) in his true Year 2 under coach Kyle Shanahan.

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    The fourth tier

    (Older QBs with some standout accomplishments, but pressure to perform in 2019 is on.)

  • #17

    Matthew Stafford, Lions
    Rumors have suggested Detroit recently thought about replacing Stafford and/or is thinking about replacing him in the near future. The Lions finally have succeeded reigning in the high-volume gunslinger as they have shifted toward a more run-oriented offense. Stafford will continue to miss Golden Taint, but he will appreciate how a player like T.J. Hockenson can help relieve pressure.

  • #18

    Kirk Cousins, Vikings
    Cousins was another tough QB to rank, but his first season in Minnesota was not nearly the expensive bust it has been made out to be. With no reliable protection, a lack of a key third target and more coaching-staff changes, for Cousins to bounce back in 2019, he needs to connect with big plays downfield more consistently and cut down on the ill-timed mistakes.

  • #19

    Cam Newton, Panthers
    Newton is entering 2019 with concerns about his throwing shoulder and coming off a season he was not healthy enough to finish. Given the current landscape of QBs in the NFL, the 2015 league MVP being ranked in the middle of the pack is not disrespect; it's reality. Last season, Newton did improve from 2017 with a better completion percentage and yards per attempt, but he still ranked No. 17 in passer rating (and 20th in ESPN's QBR and 23rd in Pro Football Focus' QB grades). In 2019, with offensive coordinator Norv Turner having the desired running game down with Christian McCaffrey, Newton should benefit from D.J. Moore and his other quick weapons in the downfield-passing aspect of the offense.

  • #20

    Jameis Winston, Buccaneers
    It was tempting to rank Winston higher just because Bruce Arians seems like a coach who can get the best out of the QB. But Winston got toggled with Ryan Fitzpatrick last season because he kept committing turnovers with sloppy passing, enough for the Bucs to think about starting over at QB in 2020. Winston was supposed to be a can't-miss QB as the No. 1 overall pick in 2015, but it's now or never for him to tap into his potential. If anyone can turn Winston into a Big Ben clone, it should be Arians.

  • #21

    Marcus Mariota, Titans
    Here is another frustrating QB to rank. Mariota has been through the wringer with offensive schemers, and health has not been on his side. Neither has game-planning in one of the league's most run-heavy offenses. Tennessee has invested more in his targets with wide receivers Adam Humphries and A.J. Brown to complement Corey Davis, but we can't totally believe in Mariota until we see him respond.

    -

    The fifth tier

    (Second-year QBs trying to make the leap, plus a supersub trying to make it as a starter.)

  • #22

    Sam Darnold, Jets
    Darnold last season had an underrated receiving corps with Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa and Chris Herndon, and now he has the ultimate backfield outlet in Le'Veon Bell. He is the kind of smart, pro-style passer new coach Adam Gase can mold.

  • #23

    Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    Jackson was trying to figure things out as a passer last season, yet he still managed to lead Baltimore to a division title. The drafting of Marquise Brown and Miles Boykin suggests the Ravens are OK letting Jackson throw more downfield without curbing his special athleticism.

  • #24

    Nick Foles, Jaguars
    Foles has had success in Philadelphia, but it's been a different story elsewhere in his seven-year career. There are some favorable elements for him in Jacksonville, but many of those are rooted in the running game and defense. Foles is bound to return to his streaky nature as a downfield passer.

  • #25

    Josh Allen, Bills
    Allen last season put up some pleasing fantasy stats because he produced while running with reckless abandon, adding some big plays with his big arm later in his rookie year. There is plenty of style in Allen's game; now we will see if there's Year 2 substance behind Buffalo's dedication to improving the offensive line and making both the backfield and receiving corps deeper.

    -

    The sixth tier

    (QBs who have been adequate but are fading fast.)

  • #26

    Andy Dalton, Bengals
    Dalton gets an extension of his starting status in Cincinnati with Zac Taylor giving the offense a fresh, wide-open look. The Bengals hope that development, plus a good supporting skill cast, can push Dalton closer to his ceiling. But that's still pretty low in relation to the QBs above; Dalton remains a dependent QB regardless.

  • #27

    Ryan Fitzpatrick, Dolphins
    The Fitzmagic was rediscovered for stretches in Tampa Bay, where the Buccaneers simply let him chuck the ball all over the field for Dirk Koetter and Todd Monken. The streaky, well-traveled veteran is bound to return to more journeyman fill-in status in a different offense, where he will be challenged to keep his bridge gig ahead of Josh Rosen.

  • #28

    Derek Carr, Raiders
    Coach Jon Gruden is sticking with Carr, hoping the big changes to the receiving corps (Antonio Brown, Tyrell Williams, Hunter Renfrow) and a promising rookie feature back (Josh Jacobs) can smooth out the QB's recent bumpy ride. In trying to live up to his big contract, Carr's lack of consistency in accuracy and decision-making has let him down.

    -

    The seventh tier

    (QBs who have won Super Bowls, but age has caught up to them.)

  • #29

    Eli Manning, Giants
    Manning's deteriorating physical skills are evident. He is keeping the job for now because he is an established leader for the Giants' gradual transition to Daniel Jones, for whom Manning is the ideal mentor.

  • #30

    Joe Flacco, Broncos
    Flacco's big arm is not as booming anymore. He will need to come through more with the mental aspects of his game to contribute effectively as a bridge QB in an offense built around its running game. He will feel the heat of Drew Lock while trying to keep the pocket warm for the rookie.

    -

    The top rookies

    (QBs we're getting to know as pros.)

  • #31

    Kyler Murray, Cardinals
    Coach Kliff Kingsbury promises not to hold back the offense for Murray, looking to stretch the field both vertically and horizontally. Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk, David Johnson, Andy Isabella and Hakeem Butler give Murray favorable targets on every level to make that happen. The trick will be Murray harnessing his electricity to match a higher degree of difficulty in the NFL.

  • #32

    Dwayne Haskins, Redskins
    Haskins needs to prove he does not have happy feet in the pocket, but rather the presence to stand tall and deliver strong, accurate throws while under pressure. Physically and arm-wise, he is ready to play soon.

  • #33

    The rest
    (Other notable QBs.)

    33. Case Keenum, Redskins

    34. Tyrod Taylor, Chargers

    35. Josh Rosen, Dolphins

    36. Ryan Tannehill, Titans

    37. Nick Mullens, 49ers

    38. Blake Bortles, Rams

    39. Daniel Jones, Giants

    40. Drew Lock, Broncos
I’m taking Goff over Mayfield and Wentz. The rest of the list looks ok. Still don’t see why Rivers and Luck are so highly touted. They haven’t won shit and Luck throws the ball 50 times every game. Him and Matt Stafford are similar IMO.
 

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I’m taking Goff over Mayfield and Wentz.

Ditto.

Mayfield had a nice rookie year, but he’s already thrown >50% more interceptions than Goff’s 3 seasons combined.

Again, I like him... but he sure seems to be thrust into that upper tier based on general excitement around Cleveland, IMO.
 

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Yeah, to be honest, in all my years following football I've never heard of anything like this. The knives are out for a QB with 4688 passing yards, 32 TDs, 13-3 record and a SB appearance.

Recently I looked up the list of QBs who led their teams to score 500 points or more in a season. Just wanted to see how many system QBs are in there.

Cam Newton
John Elway
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Steve Young
George Blanda
Tom Brady
Dan Marino
Peyton Manning
Joe Theismann
Matt Ryan
Randall Cunningham
Aaron Rodgers
Patrick Mahomes
and
Jared Goff

Yeah, some QBs better than others, but which one of these QBs couldn't play in this league? Tell us, Florio, so we can be as knowledgeable as you.
GREAT list. BLanda?? Really, wow. NOt D Lamonica?
Ya, Goff might not be the better 'football' player overall, but as a QB, he blows Dak away. Dak makes things happen and can do many special things---however, one of them is to be accurate on every throw during an entire game.
 

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Skip's love for Dak>Peter King's love for Brady

I loved listening to Skip cry after the loss to the Rams in the playoffs and Shannon was just destroying him with comments. Skip was still defending his boy, but it didn't matter.

I also don't think Dak would have played as well against the Saints as Jared did.

Hey Skip and Foolio, which NFL QB has the most yards in a perfectly rated game?
 

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"Good game Dak." "Say hello to Wentz for me the next time you play him."

"NFL talking heads will praise us and then tear us down because we were all drafted from the 2016 class"

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If you want to see how great Goff can be just look up the list of NFL QBs with a perfect passer rating for a game. Out of 50+ QBs who have obtained this elite stat who are the only two to have 400+ yards and 5+ TDs???? Answer: Nick Foles and Jared Goff. That tells me a lot about how special Goff is and with maturity will be.
 

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he sure seems to be thrust into that upper tier based on general excitement around Cleveland, IMO.

This may be the first time that "excitement around Cleveland" has ever been written.
 

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I would rather have Goff in our system, no question on that and I think he's better than Prescott in many ways.
I, however, don't think all the other stuff they discussed about Goff is necessarily wrong.
 

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Before we played Dallas in the playoffs, I was telling everyone that the only way we get beat by Dallas is if we beat ourselves (Patriot game as an example - we were better but we played like crap on offense)

I was telling them that since Suh had decided to start playing that the Ewok would be limited and that Dak without the Ewok sucks. He has very poor accuracy.

I really wasn't that worried about that game. Only worried that the Cowboys defense would get a few turnovers if we played poorly on offense. I had no worries whatsoever about the Cowboy offense with our defense being able to stop the run and Dak being left to his own devices.

Goff > Dak by far.