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Kupp is going up there to redeem himself in a big way in front of his home town.


Watching that again: Why did McVay come back with the exact same play after Kupp's drop? I'm not complaining because I think McVay is one of the best, but still.... very uncharacteristic.
 

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http://www.seahawks.com/news/2017/12/16/seahawks-make-roster-moves

Seahawks Make Roster Moves
By Tony Drovetto

The Seahawks made a handful of roster moves Saturday, placing safety Kam Chancellor on injured reserve, waiving offensive lineman Mark Glowinski, and promoting cornerback Mike Tyson and linebacker Kache Palacio from the practice squad to the 53-man roster.

Palacio, a second-year pro out of Washington State, brings some depth to the Seahawks' linebacker spot that could be without both Bobby Wagner(hamstring) and K.J. Wright (concussion) this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams. Palacio was signed to Seattle’s practice squad last month, while Tyson, a rookie out of Cincinnati, has spent the entire 2017 season on the practice squad.

Chancellor’s move to IR doesn't come as a surprise. The team’s starting strong safety suffered a neck injury during a game against the Arizona Cardinals in November and has been inactive ever since, with head coach Pete Carroll stating late last month that Chancellor would not return to action this season.

Glowinski, meanwhile, started the season as the Seahawks’ first option at right guard. A fourth-round pick by Seattle in 2015 out of West Virginia, Glowinski was relegated to a backup role two games into the season and has filled in on both sides of the line as needed, seeing action in nine games this year after starting all 16 regular-season matchups for the Seahawks in 2016.

http://www.seahawks.com/news/2017/12/15/3-key-matchups-seahawks-vs-rams

3 Key Matchups: Seahawks vs. Rams
By John Boyle

The Seahawks can move into first place in the NFC West with a victory on Sunday, but that won’t be an easy task with the 9-4 Los Angeles Rams coming to town. The Seahawks held on for a 16-10 victory when these teams met in Los Angeles earlier this season, but they know they’ll have their hands full if they’re going to sweep the season series.

“These guys are great in special teams, they’re playing terrific defense, and their offense is way out there, averaging over 30 points a game,” Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said. “We just have to do everything right to have a chance, and that’s what we’re preparing to do.”

If the Seahawks are going to come away victorious against the Rams, these are three key matchups that could make the difference Sunday afternoon:Read

1. Rams RB Todd Gurley vs. Seattle’s Front Seven
The Rams have plenty of weapons on offense and a second-year quarterback, Jared Goff, who is playing very well, but no one on that side of the ball for Los Angeles is more dangerous than Todd Gurley, who leads the NFL with 13 touchdowns and has rushed for 1,035 yards while adding 602 receiving yards, giving him the second most yards from scrimmage in the league this season.

“The offense I think is clearly built around his ability and the dynamics of what he offers,” Carroll said. “He’s a terrific outside runner and inside runner, he’s great with the ball in his hands coming out of the backfield, and he can do everything, and the remarkable thing about Todd is that he’s so durable and so consistent. He’s given them a real, obvious positive factor throughout, and they know it. They’re going to him, coaches talk about it, and it’s in the stats. There’s no denying it. He’s really the centerpiece.”

The Seahawks more than held their own against Gurley in Week 5, limiting him to 50 total yards (43 rushing, 7 receiving), which was a big reason why Seattle held the Rams to just 10 points, their second-lowest point total of the season. Unfortunately for the Seahawks, their defense doesn’t have the same personnel available now as it did in Week 5.

Since that game, Kam Chancellor and Richard Sherman have been lost to season-ending injuries, and perhaps more significant when it comes to stopping a dual-threat running back, linebacker Bobby Wagner is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game with a hamstring injury, while fellow Pro-Bowl linebacker K.J. Wright is doubtful because of a concussion.

Regardless of who is playing linebacker, the key when it comes to stopping a good running back is always the same.

“It’s tackling,” defensive coordinator Kris Richard said. “It’s being consistent in our fits, understanding, essentially how they are going to try to attack us with their run scheme, and then being consistent with tackling.”Read

2. An Improving Seahawks O-Line vs. Aaron Donald And Company
The Seahawks have seen pretty noticeable growth in the play of their offensive line in the second half of this season, both because of the addition of a very good player, left tackle Duane Brown, and also because of the continuity that unit is starting to build over the past month.

Barring something unexpected taking place, the Seahawks will start the same five linemen—Brown, Luke Joeckel, Justin Britt, Ethan Pocic and Germain Ifedi—for the fourth straight game, something that has not yet happened this season.

“I think we are seeing it,” offensive line coach/assistant head coach Tom Cable said of the line’s growth. “The cohesiveness part of it is in play, so our communication has been really good against pressure, against the stunts, and the running game showed up a little bit. I think you are seeing the jelling happen, which is the best time for this to be going on because we really need it here down the stretch obviously. I think it’s just showing up in their play.”

Cable mentions that this is a good time for the line to be coming together not just because the Seahawks are heading into a very important stretch of games, but also because of who they’re facing this week.

The Rams have made things difficult on Seattle’s offense over the years for a lot of reasons, but central to their disruptiveness is a defensive line led by All-Pro defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson called “the best defensive player I’ve ever played against.”

Donald has a team-best 8.0 sacks, a big number for an interior lineman, but he’s much more than just a dangerous pass rusher. Take, for example, Seattle’s first two possessions against the Rams earlier this season, both of which were derailed by Donald tackles for loss on first-down runs.

“That’s Aaron’s game,” Cable said. “He’s a disruptive guy, he has been disruptive, it doesn’t matter who they play, so you want to minimize that as best you can. That’s your target, is to try and not have those negative plays.”

3. Special Teams
Seahawks fans probably don’t need reminding of how dangerous the Rams can be on special teams—the recent history between the teams is littered with memorable trick plays the Rams have used against Seattle. But Los Angeles isn’t dangerous in that phase just because special teams coordinator John Fassel is willing to take risks; the Rams are also just really talented and well-coached in that part of the game.

The Seahawks have also been very strong on special teams over the years under Carroll and special teams coordinator Brian Schneider, but they know they’ll have to be at their best to prevent the Rams from making big plays in that phase on Sunday.

So far this season, the Rams have scored three touchdowns on special teams, two on blocked punts and one kick return, and they’ve blocked three kicks—a punt, a field goal attempt and an extra point—in the past two games. They also have two of the best in the business at their positions in punter Johnny Hekker, a Bothell High School product, and kicker Greg Zuerlein.

“They’re really good at it,” Carroll said of L.A.’s special teams play. “They’ve always been really good, and Fassel does a great job coaching these guys. We’ve had great respect for all of the stuff that he’s been able to do over the years, and fortunately, Brian Schneider has gone against him and he used to work with Brian, so we know them and they know us.

Scheme, aggressive mentality, good players at the right spots, their special teams with the kicker, the punter, the returners, and (returner) Pharoh (Cooper) is going great on the back end. It’s just a well-oiled group and they really challenge us.”
 

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http://www.seahawks.com/news/2017/12/15/week-15-seahawks-vs-rams-picks-predictions

Week 15: Seahawks vs Rams Picks & Predictions
By Tony Drovetto

Check out which side the national media is picking to win Sunday's matchup between the Seahawks and Rams at CenturyLink Field.

Elliot Harrison at NFL.com picks the Rams to win a close one, 26-24, "It's like the Rams have been living in a video game this season, as Los Angeles is averaging a plump 30.5 points per game. Can the Seahawks hold the Rams under 30? If the pass rush gets home, you bet.

Both of Jared Goff's offensive tackles were banged-up in last week's draining affair with the Eagles. Andrew Whitworth and Rob Havenstein are expected to go in Seattle -- and they had better."

Alden Gonzalez at ESPN.com expects the Rams to take hold of the NFC West with a 24-17 win in Seattle, "The Rams are the better team, and they’ll show it on Sunday. The Rams lost to the Seahawks earlier this year, but they outgained them by 134 yards in that game.

Russell Wilson is a legitimate MVP candidate, but the Rams have done a decent job of containing him in recent years. The Rams have the NFL’s second-highest point differential and are a lot healthier on defense. This will be the game in which they essentially lock up the division."

Brady Henderson at ESPN.com projects a three-point win for the Rams, 24-21, "The Rams may be the NFL's most complete team. They're also much healthier than the Seahawks. Yes, the Seahawks held them to 10 points in a six-point win in October, but they needed five takeaways and a dropped pass in the end zone to do it.

And that was with a defense that was still mostly intact. Already missing Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor, Seattle could be without linebackers Bobby Wagner (hamstring) and/or K.J. Wright(concussion), the team's leading tacklers. It's a lot to overcome against an excellent offense, even at home."

Chris Simms at BleacherReport.com thinks Los Angeles will come away with a 24-23 victory, "The matchup between the Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams is one of the best of the week. The big thing here is that the Rams are the better overall team without question. What makes this tough to pick is the fact the Seahawks are at home and have Russell Wilson at quarterback.

Let's remember, though, that the Rams controlled the game the first time these two teams met this season. While Seattle ultimately won, it was largely because of mistakes from Jared Goff. I don't see him playing as poorly this time around, especially against a banged-up Seahawks defense.

While Wilson is fantastic and always gives Seattle a chance, guys like Aaron Donald and Mark Barron will make it difficult for him to take off and run. I don't expect him to struggle as much as he did in the loss to Jacksonville last week, but I don't expect him to make his usual magic either. Expect Wilson and the Seahawks to fall just short in another physical battle between division rivals."

Pete Prisco at CBSSports.com sides with the Seahawks, 26-20, "This will likely decide the division title. The Rams have a one-game lead, but I think Seattle is good in this type of spot. They will respond to a bad showing in Jacksonville by looking like the team that showed up against the Eagles two weeks ago."

Mike Florio at ProFootballTalk.com likes Seattle to win 27-24 and his colleague Michael David Smith feels the same way, predicting a 28-27 Seahawks win, "In a huge game for the NFC West race, I like the Seahawks to do just enough on defense to slow down the Rams’ high-scoring offense, and Russell Wilson to make a couple of big plays late to win a close game."

David Steele at Sporting News sees a 24-19 victory for Seattle, "A Seahawks win would put them in a tie for the NFC West lead, with the tiebreaker."

Sam Farmer at the Los Angeles Times believes the Rams will bounce back after last week's loss with a 34-24 win at CenturyLink Field, "Every time the Rams have lost this season they have rebounded with a strong performance. This should be no different, against a team they should have beaten in their first meeting."

Benjamin Hoffman at the New York Times picks the Rams to win straight up, "...the Rams have Robert Woods, the team’s best wide receiver back, and if Jared Goff can deal with the crowd noise at CenturyLink Field, he should carve up Seattle’s injury-depleted secondary with passes to Woods, Sammy Watkins and the rookie standout Cooper Kupp."

Jim Moore at 710Sports.com believes injuries may catch up with the Seahawks this week and predicts a 34-20 Rams win.

Seven of eight experts at CBSSports.com like the Seahawks to win this weekend, three of five writers at USA Today pick Seattle, three of eight analysts at SBNation.com predict a Seahawks victory, and four of six polled at SI.com think Seattle comes out on top.
 

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Their injuries are all on defense & still only put up 7 points on offense.
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This is probably the most telling stat. Our defense is decimated with injuries. The offense didn’t help out by possessing the ball.
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I dont think the practice roster could have done worse!
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should refund his pay for this game.
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No heart on this team, embarrassing
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who thinks @RamsNFL suck so bad that their stadium will get destroyed by the same airplane manufacture that's behind Russel Wilson's head?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=gEQExNOBdr0

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Oh look everyone Doug was there he just didn't show up to the game!!
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Worse Tackling I’ve ever seen on a pro defense team??????? Pathetic how much are they paying you guys? Seriously?????
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Looked like touch football. Hand cramps?
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Podium is the only place they show up.
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Seahawks r trash
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Bennett didn’t do shit today, embarrassing
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Be gone Bennett
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Can you honestly tell me that Bennett and a few others on your team are not dirty players
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Can’t stand BENNETT...what he did last week was bullshit...and I said then that he should be suspended.
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Bitches got bitched. # thug culture
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Bennett has helped turn the once Legion of Boob into the Legion of Bums. I really hope this is your last year in Seattle.
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you lost 50% of your bandwagon fans to the rams
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Smug and entitled a-hole....and he is the man of the year nominee for this team. After last week with all of his other shenanigans....please leave. Your Schtick has long since expired.
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Soft player. Dirty team. Sore losers.
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http://www.seahawks.com/news/2017/12/17/rapid-reaction-seahawks-42-7-loss-los-angeles-rams

Rapid Reaction To The Seahawks' 42-7 Loss To The Los Angeles Rams
By John Boyle

SEATTLE—The Seahawks’ hopes to repeat as NFC West champs were dealt a big blow Sunday, with the Los Angeles Rams winning 42-7 at CenturyLink Field to build a two-game cushion in the division with two games to play.

Here are five rapid reactions to a tough Seahawks loss that dropped their record to 8-6:Read

1. Field Position Made A Huge Difference.
The Rams won on Sunday for a number of reasons, but perhaps the biggest factor, especially early as they built a big lead, was the difference in field position.

Thanks to a turnover on Seattle’s first possession, Los Angeles started its first drive in Seahawks territory and turned that short field into a field goal, starting a trend that continued throughout most of the game.

The Rams first-half drives started at the Seahawks' 40-yard line, midfield, the Seahawks 1-yard line, the L.A. 20-yard line, the Seattle 36, the Seattle 39 and the Seattle 47. The Rams scored on every one of those drives except for the one that started at their own 20.

For the game, the Rams scored on seven of eight possessions starting at midfield or better, only failing to do so late in the game, while their six possessions beginning in their own territory resulted in six punts and an interception.

The Seahawks, meanwhile, started 12 of 15 possessions inside their own 30, and their only possession starting in Rams territory came with 1:50 left in the game.

2. Early Turnovers Were Costly.
There’s no way to know how the game would have gone differently had the Seahawks gotten off to a better start, but the Seahawks fell behind early because a big play turned into a negative when Tanner McEvoy fumbled after a 19-yard catch and run. Instead of the Seahawks having a new set of downs at the 40, the Rams had the ball and a short field.

In the second quarter with Seattle trailing 20-0, the Seahawks were hoping to get something going and opened a drive with an 11-yard Mike Davis run, but on the next play Russell Wilson fumbled while trying to avoid pressure, giving the Rams another short field they turned into a touchdown.

3. Todd Gurley Was A Much, Much Bigger Factor This Time Around.
One of the biggest reasons the Seahawks were able to limit the Rams to just 10 points in a Week 5 victory in Los Angeles was the way Seattle’s defense contained Todd Gurley, who is having a huge season.

Gurley, who came into Sunday’s game with a league-leading 13 touchdowns and the second most yards from scrimmage in the NFL, managed just 50 total yards against Seattle in the previous meeting, 43 rushing and 7 receiving.

This time around, a Seahawks defense missing several key players could not keep the running back in check, with Gurley rushing for 152 yards and three touchdowns on 21 carries and catching three passes for 28 yards and a fourth touchdown.

4. The Seahawks Struggled With Aaron Donald And The Rams Pass Rush.
Seattle’s offensive line has taken a lot of positives strides in the second half of the season, particularly in its pass protection. But against a loaded Rams front, the Seahawks struggled to keep Russell Wilson upright, with the Rams recording seven sacks. Three of those sacks came from All-Pro defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who also had two tackles for loss and a forced fumble.

5. Bobby Wagner Showed Some Serious Toughness.
Seahawks linebacker Bobby Wagner was a game-day decision due to the hamstring injury that caused him to leave last week’s game early, and despite not practicing all week, he was active and started Sunday’s game. Wagner was clearly not at 100 percent, looking a bit hobbled at times, but still managed to record seven tackles before leaving the game in the third quarter.

“In warrior-like fashion he rose to the occasion to play," Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said of Wagner's Week 15 performance. "He felt good pregame. He had to try to find a way that he could play and he did. I couldn’t admire him more for trying to help his team in every way that he could."

In other injury news, linebacker D.J. Alexander, one of Seattle’s top special teams players, left the game with a concussion. Tight end Nick Vannett was unable to finish the game because of a shoulder injury, while cornerback Justin Coleman left the game with a chest injury, but was able to return.
 

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This right here makes the win just so much sweeter. Am I the only one that remembers this piece of manure call Gurley average in his first year?

Bennett didn’t do crap today, embarrassing
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Be gone Bennett
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Can you honestly tell me that Bennett and a few others on your team are not dirty players
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Can’t stand BENNETT...what he did last week was bullcrap...and I said then that he should be suspended.
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Bitches got bitched. # thug culture
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Bennett has helped turn the once Legion of Boob into the Legion of Bums. I really hope this is your last year in Seattle.
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you lost 50% of your bandwagon fans to the rams
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Smug and entitled a-hole....and he is the man of the year nominee for this team. After last week with all of his other shenanigans....please leave. Your Schtick has long since expired.
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Soft player. Dirty team. Sore losers.
 

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they are such trash supporters. truly, trash. they make bennett look gracious, that's how trash they are.

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Initially, Todd Gurley did not understand what all the fuss was about.

The Rams running back was a rookie in 2015 when he scored a fourth-quarter touchdown against the Seattle Seahawks in a December game at CenturyLink Field.

In celebration, Gurley spiked the ball. But a Rams player told him he should have made it a keepsake.

“My teammate was like, ‘Boy, what you doing? You better keep that ball. You know how many people score in Seattle? Nobody,’ ” Gurley recalled this week, laughing.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha x4
 

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Delano Hill becomes third Seattle player ejected in two weeks
Posted by Charean Williams on December 17, 2017

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The Seahawks are living up to their reputation as sore losers, with another ejection in what soon will be a blowout loss.

Safety Delano Hill was penalized and ejected for unnecessary roughness in the third quarter with the Seahawks down 34-0. They now trail 40-0.

Hill threw two punches at Michael Thomas following a Seattle punt.

Defensive linemen Sheldon Richardson and Quinton Jefferson earned ejections in the final few seconds of the Seahawks’ loss to the Jaguars a week ago. The league fined Richardson and Jefferson $9,115 each for unnecessary roughness.

The league also doled out a $24,309 fine to Seahawks offensive lineman Germain Ifedi for verbal abuse of a game official and docked coach Pete Carroll for “improperly entering the playing field.”
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No sense for the Rams to get in victory formation near the end of the game, may as well just keep your foot on the gas and try to score at the end.
Do dynasty’s get pounded like this at home?
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The door slams shut on this fraud franchise.
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Bennett is this teams leader. Except anything other than this outcome?
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they are all sore losers . It all starts with Pete Caroll
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I wonder if this Seahawks should move on from Carroll or at least force him to get rid of the country club staff. Richard is not a very good defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn was way better and it shows in Atlanta. Bevell has not changed the offense since 2012. There is no o line. And the guys on the defense act like idiots with their political causes or sore loser antics at the end of the game. They need a culture change.
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Can’t wait to watch this franchise completely implode.

But the best part? Complete crickets from the worst fan base in football.
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Seattle is a dirty team who gets even dirtier when the are losing. Sore losers and cowards til the end these Seahawks are.
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Turn out the lights…….the dynasty that never was nor never will be is over!!!
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Time to clean house. Keep Kam and Earl, Wagner, Griffin and the younger guys on d-line. Dump Graham and most of the coaching staff. Rocket rebuild.

Even if they win out, 10-6 is outside looking in. What a disappointing season.
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Yeah we got our butts kicked and hats handed to us on our way out of the playoff picture.
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https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/12/...mbarrass-seahawks-42-7-playoffs-look-unlikely

Seahawks-Rams final score: Rams embarrass Seahawks 42-7, playoffs look unlikely
By Mookie Alexander

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The Los Angeles Rams (10-4) seized control of the NFC West by going into CenturyLink Field and curbstomping the Seattle Seahawks (8-6) in a way no team ever has in the Russell Wilson era. It was realistically over in the opening quarter, something I didn’t think I’d ever actually type.

Everyone was bad. It was embarrassing to watch. Russell Wilson’s MVP chances? Gone. Division chances? Pretty much gone. The Seahawks need a miracle to make the playoffs, and at this point I struggle to see what that would accomplish other than another thumping.

1st Quarter
Tanner McEvoy gained 20+ yards to give Seattle a 3rd down conversion on the opening drive, except he fumbled and the Rams recovered at the 40. Todd Gurley then ran for 14 yards on the Rams’ opening play. Earl Thomas thwarted Robert Woods on a 3rd and 10, so Los Angeles had to settle for a Greg Zuerlein field goal. 3-0 Rams.

Seattle responded with a three-and-out, including a sack given up by Ethan Pocic. The Rams quickly marched into the red zone, but a Cooper Kupp drop on 3rd down meant another field goal. 6-0 Rams.

An apparent 20+ yard catch for Jimmy Graham on 1st and 20 was ruled incomplete, as he didn’t “survive the ground” upon further review. The drive was a disaster, and the punt return coverage on Pharaoh Cooper was even worse. For the second week in a row, they allowed a returner to go to the 1. Todd Gurley punched it in on the next play. 13-0 Rams.

Seattle advanced to midfield without fumbling the ball for a change, but a misfire from Wilson to Paul Richardson ended hopes for points. The Rams pounded Seattle’s defensive line with effective running plays with Todd Gurley, with absurd ease.

2nd Quarter
Jared Goff and company were seemingly on their way to another score, but Todd Gurley was stuffed on 3rd and short, and Sean McVay curiously opted for a pass on 4th and inches, which was tipped by Bradley McDougald and picked off by Michael Wilhoite. It didn’t matter, as Seattle went three-and-out, and gave up another massive punt return. Bang, bang, bang, Todd Gurley touchdown. 20-0 Rams.

A kickoff out of bounds was a rare positive moment for the Seahawks, instantly erased by Russell Wilson fumbling and the Rams recovering. Bang, bang, bang, Robert Woods got wide open on 3rd and goal to extend the lead. 27-0 Rams.

JD McKissic caught a 23-yarder to jump start a hurry-up offense for Seattle, but then Russell Wilson took an embarrassing 23-yard fumble-sack on the next play. The drive died, the Rams got the ball back, and on 3rd and 20 and just trying to run a safe call, Todd Gurley went untouched for 57 yards. I wish I was making this up. 34-0 Rams.

3rd Quarter
Things didn’t get better in the 2nd half, as Wilson got sacked two more times and then Delano Hill was ejected for throwing a punch at Michael Thomas. The Rams marched down the field for the millionth time (after actually punting on their opening possession), then Todd Gurley waltzed in on a catch for his fourth TD. At least Greg Zuerlein doinked the PAT. 40-0 Rams.

Russell Wilson, having been sacked seven times up to this point, was still under duress, scrambled, dodged, and juked his way into some rushing yards. Things got chippy between the two teams, so Sean McVay called timeout after Robert Quinn was penalized for a personal foul and Aaron Donald threw Ethan Pocic to the ground. The Wilson to Willson connection returned for a 26-yard touchdown. 40-7 Rams.

4th Quarter
Oh, you’re still reading? Russell Wilson committed intentional grounding in the end zone. 42-7 Rams.

Sean Mannion came in to run the garbage time offense for the Rams. For some reason, Wilson stayed in with four minutes or so remaining. They punted on their last drive, eliciting boos from whomever was still left in the stands. Austin Davis came in to close out the day.
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Tom Cable. Brian Schneider. Kris Richard.
They have to go.

Utterly unbelievable and believable all at the same exact time.
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The Rams are currently a case study on how much competent coaching can elevate a team
Look at the shitshow they were last year under Fisher. Meanwhile, the Seahawk’s coordinators are like a 50-pound weight around the players’ necks
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Umm, the Rams didn't just shake up their coaching staff,
They massively turned over their roster. The team that won today is not the same team that the Rams fielded last season.
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They added two new receivers, two new TEs and 40% of the line.
When they line up in a three wide set with a TE and RB, all three WRs are new, the TE is new and two of the offensive linemen are new. That’s 6 of 11 players that are new. That’s 54%.

And that’s their base offensive formation.
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I think it also helps to draft at the top of the draft for multiple years.

Getting Quinn, Brockers, Gurley, Goff, Donald, couple that with good coaching and getting key free agents, that is a recipe for success. Some of those guys are guys the Hawks have not even had a shot at over the past 4-5 years.
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Although, in the meantime, we haven't had those top round picks like the Rams have had.
In the meantime we have had to take well down the list. It is a fair question but I think given the trade value of a top 15 pick and the value on the board, the Hawks would be much better off with that draft capital. I bet we would have had Quinn, Gurley, and either Brockers or Donald. Those are the kinds of guys we want. Give seattle 5 years of top 15 picks and I am sure our roster is better than it is now.
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Even without a first round pick, the Rams hit on almost every personnel decision they made. This never happened in the last 10 years.

A bad coach will grind thru good talent until it is gone or injured without getting the results that could have been.

You guys saw that. Pete turned it around, but it is tough to maintain greatness in this league.
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The better team won today, hands down.
Good luck in the playoffs. I’m looking forward to this rivalry for years to come.
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Comprehensively out-coached
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Also, note McVay's approach

He exploited Bobby Wagner early, he took him into account and spanked the D as a result.

Darrell clearly kept his stubborn "establish the run" BS as a top priority, even though Donald was playing out of his mind.

Like I said, failure to adapt
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The end of an era. A comprehensive change of coaches below Pete Carroll is the priority by Camp 2018.

In all but two games this season, the Hawks have been comprehensively out-coached. The players finally quit on that today. Rams learned everything they did wrong after the first meeting. Hawks didn’t change a thing. Offense and special teams horrendous out of the tunnel, as they have been most of the year. Defense left constantly on short fields against a fired up opponent with a lot of weapons.

Carroll said after the game, "I didn’t expect us to play like that." Why is that, Pete? All our losses have looked exactly the same, just that the outcome have been progressively more lopsided in effort. What is massively striking is the damn bad preparation and related effort level to start the games all season outside of core defensive personnel.

There is nowhere to look but at the coaches with regard to that. Yes, we’ve had some horrendous officiating in other games. Sure, injuries have been by far worse this season than in any other. The fact is, the team has played badly for at least half or more of most of its games this year despite significant talent on the roster on both sides of the ball.

If it wasn’t for Russell improvising, the Hawks would have a solidly losing record. Russell came on the field to start like a baked iguana, and stayed that way most of the game. This is his most disappointing year, to me, although it has to be seen in context. I don’t know whether it’s his preparation, sleep patterns, confidence in the game plan, concussions??, diet, what, but Russ has been simply bad over the beginning of most games this year.

Russell airing out deep bombs by 20 minutes in like those are the only play in the books that works was bad ugly. If it’s true, it’s an indictment of his coaches. If it’s not, his getting greedy and forcing the ball to his favorite targets was neither creditable nor productive.

This season is over. Let’s not have anybody else get hurt until the gun sounds in two weeks.
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Well that was a crap sandwich
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I guess Enemy Reaction is done for 2017...
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On a week-to-week basis, the Rams have a better passing offense than rush offense by DVOA
Their defense is great but they also got picked apart last week.

Seattle’s offense has been mediocre all year.
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All people leaving early was much more embarrassing
I did not see CLink that empty for long time during the fourth quarter (more people stayed against Giants blowout). Yeah, the game sucked, but still?
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This was Carroll's 55-21 Stanford vs. USC moment, except in the pros.
Carroll bailed after this season due to the cheating stuff, but USC was on a downward trend.
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The Rams have had very few injuries this year and that is the difference.
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Earl Thomas: I don’t think Bobby Wagner should have played today
Posted by Josh Alper on December 17, 2017

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The Seahawks got blown out by the Rams at home on Sunday afternoon and there’s some sniping going on between players in the wake of the 42-7 loss.

It started when safety Earl Thomas was discussing linebacker Bobby Wagner playing with a hamstring injury that kept him from practicing last week. Thomas said Wagner is usually capable of going sideline to sideline, but “he just couldn’t do it today” and said the linebacker might have been better off sitting out.

“To be totally honest, I think the guys that played, you’ve got to give your hats off to Wags and a couple guys that played,” Thomas said, via Curtis Crabtree of PFT. “But my personal opinion, I don’t think they should have played. The backups would have did just as good. The injuries, Kam, Sherm, K.J., it definitely hurt today.”

Wagner shared an apparent response to those comments in a since-deleted tweet. Wagner wrote “E keep my name out yo mouth” and “stop being jealous of other people success,” and then followed up with another saying that he’ll hold himself accountable.

Sunday’s loss dealt a blow to the Seahawks’ hopes of making the playoffs for a sixth straight season. They can do a better job of going down swinging in the next two weeks, although it might not work out for them if they continue swinging at each other.
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Yep. They are now pointing fingers at each other. Will only get worse until a new culture comes in. Enjoy the division for the next few years, rams and niners.
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It didn’t matter that they couldn’t compete today, or in the playoffs. When you lose your defense, and have no OL, and no running attack, there’s no competing.

Hat’s off to the Rams…good luck in the playoffs to them!
 

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Delano Hill becomes third Seattle player ejected in two weeks
Posted by Charean Williams on December 17, 2017

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The Seahawks are living up to their reputation as sore losers, with another ejection in what soon will be a blowout loss.

Safety Delano Hill was penalized and ejected for unnecessary roughness in the third quarter with the Seahawks down 34-0. They now trail 40-0.

Hill threw two punches at Michael Thomas following a Seattle punt.

Defensive linemen Sheldon Richardson and Quinton Jefferson earned ejections in the final few seconds of the Seahawks’ loss to the Jaguars a week ago. The league fined Richardson and Jefferson $9,115 each for unnecessary roughness.

The league also doled out a $24,309 fine to Seahawks offensive lineman Germain Ifedi for verbal abuse of a game official and docked coach Pete Carroll for “improperly entering the playing field.”
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No sense for the Rams to get in victory formation near the end of the game, may as well just keep your foot on the gas and try to score at the end.
Do dynasty’s get pounded like this at home?
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The door slams shut on this fraud franchise.
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Bennett is this teams leader. Except anything other than this outcome?
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they are all sore losers . It all starts with Pete Caroll
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I wonder if this Seahawks should move on from Carroll or at least force him to get rid of the country club staff. Richard is not a very good defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn was way better and it shows in Atlanta. Bevell has not changed the offense since 2012. There is no o line. And the guys on the defense act like idiots with their political causes or sore loser antics at the end of the game. They need a culture change.
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Can’t wait to watch this franchise completely implode.

But the best part? Complete crickets from the worst fan base in football.
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Seattle is a dirty team who gets even dirtier when the are losing. Sore losers and cowards til the end these Seahawks are.
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Turn out the lights…….the dynasty that never was nor never will be is over!!!
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Time to clean house. Keep Kam and Earl, Wagner, Griffin and the younger guys on d-line. Dump Graham and most of the coaching staff. Rocket rebuild.

Even if they win out, 10-6 is outside looking in. What a disappointing season.
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Yeah we got our butts kicked and hats handed to us on our way out of the playoff picture.
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Seahawks-Rams final score: Rams embarrass Seahawks 42-7, playoffs look unlikely
By Mookie Alexander

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The Los Angeles Rams (10-4) seized control of the NFC West by going into CenturyLink Field and curbstomping the Seattle Seahawks (8-6) in a way no team ever has in the Russell Wilson era. It was realistically over in the opening quarter, something I didn’t think I’d ever actually type.

Everyone was bad. It was embarrassing to watch. Russell Wilson’s MVP chances? Gone. Division chances? Pretty much gone. The Seahawks need a miracle to make the playoffs, and at this point I struggle to see what that would accomplish other than another thumping.

1st Quarter
Tanner McEvoy gained 20+ yards to give Seattle a 3rd down conversion on the opening drive, except he fumbled and the Rams recovered at the 40. Todd Gurley then ran for 14 yards on the Rams’ opening play. Earl Thomas thwarted Robert Woods on a 3rd and 10, so Los Angeles had to settle for a Greg Zuerlein field goal. 3-0 Rams.

Seattle responded with a three-and-out, including a sack given up by Ethan Pocic. The Rams quickly marched into the red zone, but a Cooper Kupp drop on 3rd down meant another field goal. 6-0 Rams.

An apparent 20+ yard catch for Jimmy Graham on 1st and 20 was ruled incomplete, as he didn’t “survive the ground” upon further review. The drive was a disaster, and the punt return coverage on Pharaoh Cooper was even worse. For the second week in a row, they allowed a returner to go to the 1. Todd Gurley punched it in on the next play. 13-0 Rams.

Seattle advanced to midfield without fumbling the ball for a change, but a misfire from Wilson to Paul Richardson ended hopes for points. The Rams pounded Seattle’s defensive line with effective running plays with Todd Gurley, with absurd ease.

2nd Quarter
Jared Goff and company were seemingly on their way to another score, but Todd Gurley was stuffed on 3rd and short, and Sean McVay curiously opted for a pass on 4th and inches, which was tipped by Bradley McDougald and picked off by Michael Wilhoite. It didn’t matter, as Seattle went three-and-out, and gave up another massive punt return. Bang, bang, bang, Todd Gurley touchdown. 20-0 Rams.

A kickoff out of bounds was a rare positive moment for the Seahawks, instantly erased by Russell Wilson fumbling and the Rams recovering. Bang, bang, bang, Robert Woods got wide open on 3rd and goal to extend the lead. 27-0 Rams.

JD McKissic caught a 23-yarder to jump start a hurry-up offense for Seattle, but then Russell Wilson took an embarrassing 23-yard fumble-sack on the next play. The drive died, the Rams got the ball back, and on 3rd and 20 and just trying to run a safe call, Todd Gurley went untouched for 57 yards. I wish I was making this up. 34-0 Rams.

3rd Quarter
Things didn’t get better in the 2nd half, as Wilson got sacked two more times and then Delano Hill was ejected for throwing a punch at Michael Thomas. The Rams marched down the field for the millionth time (after actually punting on their opening possession), then Todd Gurley waltzed in on a catch for his fourth TD. At least Greg Zuerlein doinked the PAT. 40-0 Rams.

Russell Wilson, having been sacked seven times up to this point, was still under duress, scrambled, dodged, and juked his way into some rushing yards. Things got chippy between the two teams, so Sean McVay called timeout after Robert Quinn was penalized for a personal foul and Aaron Donald threw Ethan Pocic to the ground. The Wilson to Willson connection returned for a 26-yard touchdown. 40-7 Rams.

4th Quarter
Oh, you’re still reading? Russell Wilson committed intentional grounding in the end zone. 42-7 Rams.

Sean Mannion came in to run the garbage time offense for the Rams. For some reason, Wilson stayed in with four minutes or so remaining. They punted on their last drive, eliciting boos from whomever was still left in the stands. Austin Davis came in to close out the day.
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Tom Cable. Brian Schneider. Kris Richard.
They have to go.

Utterly unbelievable and believable all at the same exact time.
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The Rams are currently a case study on how much competent coaching can elevate a team
Look at the shitshow they were last year under Fisher. Meanwhile, the Seahawk’s coordinators are like a 50-pound weight around the players’ necks
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Umm, the Rams didn't just shake up their coaching staff,
They massively turned over their roster. The team that won today is not the same team that the Rams fielded last season.
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They added two new receivers, two new TEs and 40% of the line.
When they line up in a three wide set with a TE and RB, all three WRs are new, the TE is new and two of the offensive linemen are new. That’s 6 of 11 players that are new. That’s 54%.

And that’s their base offensive formation.
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I think it also helps to draft at the top of the draft for multiple years.

Getting Quinn, Brockers, Gurley, Goff, Donald, couple that with good coaching and getting key free agents, that is a recipe for success. Some of those guys are guys the Hawks have not even had a shot at over the past 4-5 years.
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Although, in the meantime, we haven't had those top round picks like the Rams have had.
In the meantime we have had to take well down the list. It is a fair question but I think given the trade value of a top 15 pick and the value on the board, the Hawks would be much better off with that draft capital. I bet we would have had Quinn, Gurley, and either Brockers or Donald. Those are the kinds of guys we want. Give seattle 5 years of top 15 picks and I am sure our roster is better than it is now.
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Even without a first round pick, the Rams hit on almost every personnel decision they made. This never happened in the last 10 years.

A bad coach will grind thru good talent until it is gone or injured without getting the results that could have been.

You guys saw that. Pete turned it around, but it is tough to maintain greatness in this league.
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The better team won today, hands down.
Good luck in the playoffs. I’m looking forward to this rivalry for years to come.
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Comprehensively out-coached
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Also, note McVay's approach

He exploited Bobby Wagner early, he took him into account and spanked the D as a result.

Darrell clearly kept his stubborn "establish the run" BS as a top priority, even though Donald was playing out of his mind.

Like I said, failure to adapt
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The end of an era. A comprehensive change of coaches below Pete Carroll is the priority by Camp 2018.

In all but two games this season, the Hawks have been comprehensively out-coached. The players finally quit on that today. Rams learned everything they did wrong after the first meeting. Hawks didn’t change a thing. Offense and special teams horrendous out of the tunnel, as they have been most of the year. Defense left constantly on short fields against a fired up opponent with a lot of weapons.

Carroll said after the game, "I didn’t expect us to play like that." Why is that, Pete? All our losses have looked exactly the same, just that the outcome have been progressively more lopsided in effort. What is massively striking is the damn bad preparation and related effort level to start the games all season outside of core defensive personnel.

There is nowhere to look but at the coaches with regard to that. Yes, we’ve had some horrendous officiating in other games. Sure, injuries have been by far worse this season than in any other. The fact is, the team has played badly for at least half or more of most of its games this year despite significant talent on the roster on both sides of the ball.

If it wasn’t for Russell improvising, the Hawks would have a solidly losing record. Russell came on the field to start like a baked iguana, and stayed that way most of the game. This is his most disappointing year, to me, although it has to be seen in context. I don’t know whether it’s his preparation, sleep patterns, confidence in the game plan, concussions??, diet, what, but Russ has been simply bad over the beginning of most games this year.

Russell airing out deep bombs by 20 minutes in like those are the only play in the books that works was bad ugly. If it’s true, it’s an indictment of his coaches. If it’s not, his getting greedy and forcing the ball to his favorite targets was neither creditable nor productive.

This season is over. Let’s not have anybody else get hurt until the gun sounds in two weeks.
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Well that was a crap sandwich
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I guess Enemy Reaction is done for 2017...
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On a week-to-week basis, the Rams have a better passing offense than rush offense by DVOA

Their defense is great but they also got picked apart last week.

Seattle’s offense has been mediocre all year.
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All people leaving early was much more embarrassing

I did not see CLink that empty for long time during the fourth quarter (more people stayed against Giants blowout). Yeah, the game sucked, but still?
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This was Carroll's 55-21 Stanford vs. USC moment, except in the pros.

Carroll bailed after this season due to the cheating stuff, but USC was on a downward trend.
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The Rams have had very few injuries this year and that is the difference.
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Mookie Alexander??? Nice try, but you need to do a better job hiding your identity. Is this what you have been to, Mo'? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Man, that must've been awesome. I had a raging schadenboner after that game, I can only imagine what you guys had seeing it live among all of those Seahawks fans. Their tears must've tasted like the nectar of the gods to you guys!

:rolllaugh:

Schadenboner...

I love this forum so much!

Btw, I'm shamelessly stealing that.
 

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This right here makes the win just so much sweeter. Am I the only one that remembers this piece of manure call Gurley average in his first year?

Nope! I really, really wanted Todd to truck over this guy on his way to pay dirt. I still want it, but next year will have to suffice. I still want us to meet with Minny and Philly in the playoffs. I know Aaron said he wants to play Case again. It would be nice to get revenge against the 'Skins too, but I doubt they even make the playoffs this season. We will put them on a checklist for later unfinished business.
 

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Did they get rid of their game day threads? Or did they not make one? Cant find it.