Turf vs Grass

[shake-n-bake]

Did Kroenke make one big mistake on SOFI. I am seeing a lot of stories on the problems when it comes to turf. I think OBJ's foot got stuck in the pellets and in turn the pressure ended up tearing his ACL. Grass gives and may have not caused the tear. Should that field be changed? Can it be changed at this point?

 

[badnews]

Did Kroenke make one big mistake on SOFI. I am seeing a lot of stories on the problems when it comes to turf. I think OBJ's foot got stuck in the pellets and in turn the pressure ended up tearing his ACL. Grass gives and may have not caused the tear. Should that field be changed? Can it be changed at this point?

A grass field would get destroyed with games every Sunday.
Now if we can kick the chargers out, we could go to natural grass

 

[Allen2McVay]

Not sure if I can remember another non-contact knee injury in two seasons at SoFi.

Can anyone think of one?

 

[Ram Ts]

Yes 100%. There should be grass on our football field.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

Now if we can kick the chargers out, we could go to natural grass

Either way, the squatters need to leave.

 

[thirteen28]

A grass field would get destroyed with games every Sunday.
Now if we can kick the chargers out, we could go to natural grass

Either way, the squatters need to leave.

The Chargers have got to know that they are firmly second fiddle in LA now that the Rams have won the Super Bowl in their OWN stadium - the stadium the Chargers have to rent. It's going to be really hard for them to gain traction like the Rams have now, because an opportunity this historical, and the Rams capitalized on it in spectacular fashion. How can the Chargers top that? They can't, especially with an owner like Spanos.

The only solution for them is for Spanos to sell the team to a billionaire that can afford his own building and move back to San Diego where they belong. Even Spanos knows that now, although he is both stubborn and stupid and will hang on for dear life. But his gamble in moving to LA has failed, and the Rams sealed the deal this past Sunday with a franchise defining win of the kind that brings in generational fans.

 

[Ballhawk]

The field turf in Sofi seems to be shorter than normal. Looks more like carpet than grass!

 

[VegasRam]

Do any of you have a clue what you’re talking about?
I actually posted a few years back I’d miss the Coliseum cuz it was grass.

This just in…
Sofi’s field is 50-100 feet below grade, so it ain’t…”cards and raiders did it, why can’t Rams…”

Calling all geniuses…tell us how.

 

[Jacobarch]

I'm sure it's something they'll look into. Players are starting to voice their opinions so

 

[99Balloons]

George Kittle has a petition at change.org/fliptheturf to do away with turf fields in NFL stadiums.

Turf fields are playing on hard cement cover by a carpet. Instead of playing harder, play smarter.

 

[JoeBo21]

there's gotta be a better option, no? Isn't there a hybrid turf that's like natural and artificial grass combined that's supposed to be better? Or am I buggin?

 

[shake-n-bake]

there's gotta be a better option, no? Isn't there a hybrid turf that's like natural and artificial grass combined that's supposed to be better? Or am I buggin?

Given all the money with our owner and the NFL. I would hope they can commission there own research and solution for this. It is better to solve this then having to pay people on IR and then also pay replacements at the same time

 

[TSFH Fan]

I haven't kept up on the progress of the agri-tech, but bottom line is that hybrid seems feasible:

Stadium update article

I think you skipped the part about the whole field being rolled outside, to grow in the open air, then rolled inside just on gamedays. Wouldn't work with the field a couple hundred feet below ground.

ramsondemand.com

 

[blackbart]

I don’t think Beckham’s foot got stuck. I heard he might have already been having problems with it and might have been on track to have a procedure done this off-season to clean it up.

Yes, turf fields do seem to have more non-contact injuries but grass fields that aren’t in great condition have problems too.

I seriously doubt with the field being below grade at Sofi that they can have a quality grass surface.

 

[SWAdude]

Other than the untimely injury to Beckham I am unaware of this stadium being a problem.

With the Chargers sharing the field there have been a good number of games played their the past two years and doesn;t appear to a problem for others.

Yet, it will always be part of the discussion.

If it was a grass field how does Beckham not injure that awkward move on the same knee he re-injured?

As I recall the Rams tried several different turfs at the Dome. I don't know if any made a difference.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I thought I remember reading the Rams Matrix Turf was “safer than grass”.

But this letter on the NFLPA states some staggering stats on artificial fields.

Only Natural Grass Can Level The NFL’s Playing Field

nflpa.com

Based on NFL injury data collected from 2012 to 2018, not only was the contact injury rate for lower extremities higher during practices and games held on artificial turf, NFL players consistently experienced a much higher rate of non-contact lower extremity injuries on turf compared to natural surfaces. Specifically, players have a 28% higher rate of non-contact lower extremity injuries when playing on artificial turf. Of those non-contact injuries, players have a 32% higher rate of non-contact knee injuries on turf and a staggering 69% higher rate of non-contact foot/ankle injuries on turf compared to grass.

 

[FaulkSF]

Turf is horrid and hard on the body, huh huh. I never had feet issues until I started exercising on turf for hours at a time. I see others with knee and back issues as well.

Thin layer of felt that sits on top of shredded rubber that is not super compacted, which is on concrete. It also gets about 10 degrees hotter during sunny days, it's honestly like a sauna releasing heat upwards.

The main benefit is low upkeep cost and excellent drainage. Most turf fields are actually angled 2+ degrees away from the center with French drains underneath to mitigate flooding and water damage.

Grass requires year long care, but is much gentler on the joints and feet. I'm guessing the owners are not thrilled with Kittles petition.

 

[dieterbrock]

And grass fields were the culprit of injuries when teams started switching to astro turf back in the day.
Bottom line? Injuries are going to happen no matter what surface they play on. The torque these athletes put on their bodies defies the laws of nature.