Top Prospects Athletes or Football Players?

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rdlkgliders

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I picked Prospects we may be interested in and not in any methodical order.
Do You think the below prospects are Football players first or Athletes First?
I know all of the players listed are obviously athletic and football players so taking that into consideration.
EX: in todays NFL you seldom see a guy and say undersized not very athletic but dude is a football player.
In contrary Coaches and GM's Have attempted to coach up athletes into football players for some time.
To call someone a football player without mention of his athleticism is honorable.
To call a prospect a football player first and athlete second is probably optimal

  1. Khalil Mack A/F
  2. Jake Matthews F/A
  3. Gerald Robinson A/F
  4. Sammy Watkins F/A
  5. Aaron Donald F he is athletic but has overcome size and doubt. straight up football player
  6. Anthony Barr A/F
  7. CJ Mosley F/A
  8. Justin Gilbert A/F
  9. Jadaveon Clowney A/F
  10. Mike Evans F/A
Just for fun the qb's
  1. Blake Bortles F/A
  2. Teddy Bridgewater F/A
  3. Johnny Manziel F even though athletic like Him or not kid is a football player
 

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I think that's much too fine of a distinction for most of us to be able to answer intelligently. At least for me it is.
 

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I think that's much too fine of a distinction for most of us to be able to answer intelligently. At least for me it is.

Have to agree. I do understand what you are getting at in this post, there are certain guys who are athletes trying to play football (Jared Cook) I just think there arent a ton of them. In reality you don't make the nfl without being incredibly athletic. Some guys rely on athleticism more than others but i think it would be very difficult to label every one of these guys.
 

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Ya, just trying to add a new twist to the time of year we call purgatory and all the re posts.
 

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I agree with you for the most part. This is very difficult to categorize players in this way. However, I almost want to say Mike Evans leans toward the athletic side.
 

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Fendi Onobun, Donnie Avery, Ty Hill haha. Also, you can say almost all QBs are football players since few are athletic.
 

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Fendi Onobun, Donnie Avery, Ty Hill haha. Also, you can say almost all QBs are football players since few are athletic.
I agree that's why I went F first on the top 2 prospects however I tried to keep in mind each prospects position and related skillset necessary to play said position.
Most of all it is just all for fun driven by boredom. I happen to be on Hiatus this week so I have some free time.
 

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I like to judge upside. Seeing what tools a player has to work with and how bad he wants it/character.

For example, this is why I like Robinson over Mathews. They both have solid character but Robinsinon's upside seals it over Mathews's readiness.
 

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I like to judge upside. Seeing what tools a player has to work with and how bad he wants it/character.

For example, this is why I like Robinson over Mathews. They both have solid character but Robinsinon's upside seals it over Mathews's readiness.
I would have to go Matthews and let the chips fall where they may. Matthews should bring you 10 years as a top 5 OL while Robinson may indeed turn into the next Pace with incredible upside but he also may turn into a backup after a couple years of not getting it in pass pro. I am a little conservative in regards to OL.
 

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I would have to go Matthews and let the chips fall where they may. Matthews should bring you 10 years as a top 5 OL while Robinson may indeed turn into the next Pace with incredible upside but he also may turn into a backup after a couple years of not getting it in pass pro. I am a little conservative in regards to OL.

They say he's most resembles Ogden, which is great. Ogden started at OG his rookie year. *Shock!*
 

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They say he's most resembles Ogden, which is great. Ogden started at OG his rookie year. *Shock!*
Interesting comparison must be comparing style. I saw a lot of Ogden out here in the West and thought he was a stud. he has about 4 inches and 40 lbs on Robinson.
If we do draft Robinson he will have a great teacher and certainly if he works at it and his footwork comes around could be a top 3 OT in 3 years.
Lets face it we are in a great position at #2 no matter what. There is only 1 player that will challenge the sanity of this forum at #2 if we stay. That is the ever so polarizing Clowney. If we take him this forum will erupt with people on both sides.