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Let's see....

1. How bad will you suck this season?
2. How many picks will Wilson throw when you play the Rams?
3. Would you say the Rams will score more than 40 points against you or less than 50?

OK - This Seattle reporter has a different list.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...awks-as-they-head-to-the-nfl-league-meetings/

Analysis: Three questions for the Seahawks heading into the NFL league meetings
Originally published March 25, 2018 at 3:06 pm Updated March 25, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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Earl Thomas warms up at AT&T Stadium for a game last season at Dallas. (Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)

Pete Carroll and John Schneider figure to get a few questions tossed their way this week in Orlando. Here's our view of what might be the three most pressing.
By
Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, general manager John Schneider and other team execs headed to Orlando this weekend for the NFL’s annual meetings, which run until Wednesday.

While the league meetings often elicit a flurry of rumors, they also serve as something of a break in the free agent signing process with the big-ticket players mostly accounted for and teams now on to the second- and third-wave guys who will mostly get one-year prove-it deals.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t still a lot of questions hovering over the Seahawks.

Here’s a look at a few that Carroll and Schneider may get asked this week in Orlando and our attempt at an answer.

Q: Are the Seahawks really going to trade Earl Thomas?
A: As Thomas himself said Friday, nobody knows and for now it’s a guessing game. The Seahawks are known to have talked to teams about Thomas. In Orlando, those talks could increase as every coach and GM will (or usually is, anyway) in attendance, and maybe meeting face-to-face will spur action — or possibly convince the Seahawks they really aren’t going to get the kind of offers they’d like (essentially, a package including at least first-round pick or its equivalent).

Thomas took to Twitter Saturday to state he’d like to stay in Seattle and someday have his number retired. But that desire is only really meaningful if it leads to agreeing to the kind of extension the team is comfortable giving him.

One thought for why Seattle continues to pursue offers for Thomas is the regret the team likely has for the third contracts it gave Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bennett and Kam Chancellor — Lynch and Bennett were long gone before the contracts ended (and Bennett technically before his final contract even began) and Chancellor probably will be.


Another is the Richard Sherman situation a year ago. Recall it was at the league meetings in Phoenix last March when Schnieder and Carroll each acknowledged that Sherman was available. Ultimately, he stayed put, only for the team to then release him this year and get nothing in return.

Seattle seems determined to make an aggressive decision to assure it gets something for one of its most valuable assess this time around — or assures that he stays in the fold long-term but with the kind of contract that won’t hamstring the team down the road.

Q: Are the Seahawks really rebuilding?
A: An initial thought is that neither Carroll nor Schneider would ever publicly admit to rebuilding, and it’s hard to imagine that Carroll would ever really let that seep into his thoughts anyway — this is a coach who got to the second round of the playoffs in his first year with a team that finished 7-9.

Also, any NFL team with an elite in-his-prime quarterback — and Seattle undeniably has one in Russell Wilson — has a chance.

But the Seahawks have admittedly sent some mixed signals this offseason about what direction they think they are heading.

The offloading of veterans such as Sherman and Bennett and the possibility that Chancellor and Cliff Avril never play again — as well as the talk of trading Thomas — certainly give the look of a team that if not starting over, is at least retooling.

Conversely, while it was thought that the Seahawks might not do much in free agency so they could load up on 2019 compensatory draft picks, they have signed enough free agents in the last few week-and-a-half that at the moment they would not qualify for any, according to OvertheCap.com.

Seattle has signed six free agents who qualify for the compensatory pick formula while losing five, a group of signees that includes 33-year-old defensive tackle Tom Johnson and 30-year-old tight end Ed Dickson, each of whom if the season began today might well start. And the Seahawks were also thought to be seriously interested in 31-year-old defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, though logically that appears out the window now.

Still, all are the kind of moves that seem to indicate a team still doing what it can to win now.

Seattle, though, also has kept its spending in check enough that it is set up well for the coming seasons.

While the Seahawks don’t have a lot of cap space for this season — according to OvertheCap.com they have just over $14 million for 2018, 19th most among NFL teams — they have the fifth-most cap space for 2019 and fourth-most in 2020.

So maybe the Seahawks are just doing what they’ve professed to always be trying to do — maximizing today while not forgetting about tomorrow.

Q: Do the Seahawks have any other really big moves up their sleeve other than whatever may happen with Thomas?
A: Maybe not. Some may question doing nothing significant to add to the offensive line other than signing free agent D.J. Fluker, apparently to play right guard. But the Seahawks might argue the big move made on the line was firing coach Tom Cable and replacing him with Mike Solari. They might also argue the same for the offense as a whole (firing coordinator Darrell Bevell and replacing him with Brian Schottenheimer). And the defense has already undergone a ton of change.

And with limited cap space for 2018 and few big-name free agents left, most of the roster building that is left at this point figures to be done through the draft.

That’s where it gets a little tricky, though.

Seattle has the 18th pick in the first round but then nothing until number 120 in the fourth.

Schneider said at the Combine a few weeks ago the Seahawks would explore options to add picks in the second or third rounds — which are held on the second day of the draft, which this year is April 26-28.

Trading Thomas would undoubtedly add to the team’s 2018 draft capital, and also allow them to make more moves if they wanted.

For now, that appears the biggest question left to answer.
 

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Do the Seahawks really expect to get a first plus for Earl Thomas? He's been dinged up a little the past two seasons, after never missing a game before then. He will get paid $8.5 million then be a free agent. He will be 29 this coming season - not ancient, but old enough that his best seasons are likely past. If a team really wanted him, they would have traded before free agency, not weeks after it began.

He's a good player, but a first would be an awful lot for him at this stage. I could see a third and a fourth, something like that. And even then, that's only because the team might get a pick for him in 2020. But I don't know what team thinks it's competitive, has the cap room, and needs a free safety starter.
 

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Let's see....

1. How bad will you suck this season?
2. How many picks will Wilson throw when you play the Rams?
3. Would you say the Rams will score more than 40 points against you or less than 50?

OK - This Seattle reporter has a different list.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...awks-as-they-head-to-the-nfl-league-meetings/

Analysis: Three questions for the Seahawks heading into the NFL league meetings
Originally published March 25, 2018 at 3:06 pm Updated March 25, 2018 at 3:45 pm
204618_SEA_DAL_14_172749-960x640.jpg

Earl Thomas warms up at AT&T Stadium for a game last season at Dallas. (Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)

Pete Carroll and John Schneider figure to get a few questions tossed their way this week in Orlando. Here's our view of what might be the three most pressing.
By
Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, general manager John Schneider and other team execs headed to Orlando this weekend for the NFL’s annual meetings, which run until Wednesday.

While the league meetings often elicit a flurry of rumors, they also serve as something of a break in the free agent signing process with the big-ticket players mostly accounted for and teams now on to the second- and third-wave guys who will mostly get one-year prove-it deals.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t still a lot of questions hovering over the Seahawks.

Here’s a look at a few that Carroll and Schneider may get asked this week in Orlando and our attempt at an answer.

Q: Are the Seahawks really going to trade Earl Thomas?
A: As Thomas himself said Friday, nobody knows and for now it’s a guessing game. The Seahawks are known to have talked to teams about Thomas. In Orlando, those talks could increase as every coach and GM will (or usually is, anyway) in attendance, and maybe meeting face-to-face will spur action — or possibly convince the Seahawks they really aren’t going to get the kind of offers they’d like (essentially, a package including at least first-round pick or its equivalent).

Thomas took to Twitter Saturday to state he’d like to stay in Seattle and someday have his number retired. But that desire is only really meaningful if it leads to agreeing to the kind of extension the team is comfortable giving him.

One thought for why Seattle continues to pursue offers for Thomas is the regret the team likely has for the third contracts it gave Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bennett and Kam Chancellor — Lynch and Bennett were long gone before the contracts ended (and Bennett technically before his final contract even began) and Chancellor probably will be.


Another is the Richard Sherman situation a year ago. Recall it was at the league meetings in Phoenix last March when Schnieder and Carroll each acknowledged that Sherman was available. Ultimately, he stayed put, only for the team to then release him this year and get nothing in return.

Seattle seems determined to make an aggressive decision to assure it gets something for one of its most valuable assess this time around — or assures that he stays in the fold long-term but with the kind of contract that won’t hamstring the team down the road.

Q: Are the Seahawks really rebuilding?
A: An initial thought is that neither Carroll nor Schneider would ever publicly admit to rebuilding, and it’s hard to imagine that Carroll would ever really let that seep into his thoughts anyway — this is a coach who got to the second round of the playoffs in his first year with a team that finished 7-9.

Also, any NFL team with an elite in-his-prime quarterback — and Seattle undeniably has one in Russell Wilson — has a chance.

But the Seahawks have admittedly sent some mixed signals this offseason about what direction they think they are heading.

The offloading of veterans such as Sherman and Bennett and the possibility that Chancellor and Cliff Avril never play again — as well as the talk of trading Thomas — certainly give the look of a team that if not starting over, is at least retooling.

Conversely, while it was thought that the Seahawks might not do much in free agency so they could load up on 2019 compensatory draft picks, they have signed enough free agents in the last few week-and-a-half that at the moment they would not qualify for any, according to OvertheCap.com.

Seattle has signed six free agents who qualify for the compensatory pick formula while losing five, a group of signees that includes 33-year-old defensive tackle Tom Johnson and 30-year-old tight end Ed Dickson, each of whom if the season began today might well start. And the Seahawks were also thought to be seriously interested in 31-year-old defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, though logically that appears out the window now.

Still, all are the kind of moves that seem to indicate a team still doing what it can to win now.

Seattle, though, also has kept its spending in check enough that it is set up well for the coming seasons.

While the Seahawks don’t have a lot of cap space for this season — according to OvertheCap.com they have just over $14 million for 2018, 19th most among NFL teams — they have the fifth-most cap space for 2019 and fourth-most in 2020.

So maybe the Seahawks are just doing what they’ve professed to always be trying to do — maximizing today while not forgetting about tomorrow.

Q: Do the Seahawks have any other really big moves up their sleeve other than whatever may happen with Thomas?
A: Maybe not. Some may question doing nothing significant to add to the offensive line other than signing free agent D.J. Fluker, apparently to play right guard. But the Seahawks might argue the big move made on the line was firing coach Tom Cable and replacing him with Mike Solari. They might also argue the same for the offense as a whole (firing coordinator Darrell Bevell and replacing him with Brian Schottenheimer). And the defense has already undergone a ton of change.

And with limited cap space for 2018 and few big-name free agents left, most of the roster building that is left at this point figures to be done through the draft.

That’s where it gets a little tricky, though.

Seattle has the 18th pick in the first round but then nothing until number 120 in the fourth.

Schneider said at the Combine a few weeks ago the Seahawks would explore options to add picks in the second or third rounds — which are held on the second day of the draft, which this year is April 26-28.

Trading Thomas would undoubtedly add to the team’s 2018 draft capital, and also allow them to make more moves if they wanted.

For now, that appears the biggest question left to answer.

I like your questions better.
 

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Do the Seahawks really expect to get a first plus for Earl Thomas? He's been dinged up a little the past two seasons, after never missing a game before then. He will get paid $8.5 million then be a free agent. He will be 29 this coming season - not ancient, but old enough that his best seasons are likely past. If a team really wanted him, they would have traded before free agency, not weeks after it began.

He's a good player, but a first would be an awful lot for him at this stage. I could see a third and a fourth, something like that. And even then, that's only because the team might get a pick for him in 2020. But I don't know what team thinks it's competitive, has the cap room, and needs a free safety starter.
Right? Seriously. They were trying to get a 1st and a 3rd for him originally and nobody bit? Shocking!

I love the situation the shecocks find themselves in. It couldn't happen to a better group of A-holes. Petey is surely planning his midnight exit plans. Hey Petey - Give Art Modell a call. I'm sure he has some ideas.
 

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It's a vaginal wasteland up there in Shitattle and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. Welcome to the cellar of the NFC West!
 

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While I wasn't surprised that they've jettisoned a lot of players who were aging and too expensive to justify keeping, I AM surprised that they've done nothing to address their O-line.

Here's hoping that mindset continues all the way into September.
 

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SeaChicks retool-- DJ Flucker, a first (#18) and a fourth (#120). Yeah that'll get it done:sadwalk:
 

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QUESTION #4.
If Seattle finishes 3rd or 4th, does ownership move on from Carroll? Answer: Yes! But it will take the next 2 seasons. No way they keep him if he misses the playoffs 3 years in a row.
 

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Seattle isn't a guaranteed cellar team just yet. They still have some good things going, like a QB who can win games almost by himself and a simplistic defensive scheme under a staff that develops very well. I think there's a reasonable chance the Cards end up in the cellar tbh, depends on whether Bradford can play a full season.

Also I'm not nearly as high on the 9ers as everyone else. They were on a real hot streak down the stretch, sure. But they still have a lot of fundamental problems on their roster and I don't feel like their signings are anything other than guys who will be cut a year or two from now when they can get out from under them.

NFC West is pretty wide open IMO. Rams have to be favored, but after them who knows. And irt the Rams, whether they can repeat as division winner is going to come down to how well they draft to rebuild their LB corps. Replacing Quinn is key, but so is the interior as well as depth in the front seven in general.
 

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Hold on guys, I've managed to land the Seahawks in the ROD mock draft, I wouldn't count them out just yet, sometimes you've got to cut down some trees to see the woods - as @Merlin just said Wilson can win games all buy himself if needed, and he has several times.

Don't count out the Cards hitting rock bottom, they're hoping Sam will stay upright, we know how foolish that is...
 

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Hold on guys, I've managed to land the Seahawks in the ROD mock draft, I wouldn't count them out just yet, sometimes you've got to cut down some trees to see the woods - as @Merlin just said Wilson can win games all buy himself if needed, and he has several times.

Don't count out the Cards hitting rock bottom, they're hoping Sam will stay upright, we know how foolish that is...

I'm hoping the cellar team is the whiners. Their fans were getting stupid last season, crowning themselves as Super Bowl champions just about. Sure would be sweet to see them learn what we know well, that winning games down the stretch doesn't always mean a damn thing the next season.
 

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They won't get much for him, and they create a hole when they do the trade. So essentially it's a wash, they just get out of the contract.
Right. But they were seriously trying to get bites on a 1st and a 3rd for the guy. Fucking delusional.
 

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Let's see....

1. How bad will you suck this season?
2. How many picks will Wilson throw when you play the Rams?
3. Would you say the Rams will score more than 40 points against you or less than 50?
So, to consolidate this into a question #4;

" Do the Seahag's stand a 'Snow-Balls-Chance' against the Rams this year!? "

ANSWER: NO!! they will be lucky to score a single TD in two games against the Rams this year!
 

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I'm hoping the cellar team is the whiners. Their fans were getting stupid last season, crowning themselves as Super Bowl champions just about. Sure would be sweet to see them learn what we know well, that winning games down the stretch doesn't always mean a damn thing the next season.

I know what you mean, I really can't wait to play them next season and to teach them a lesson. If I'm honest I'd have not played JimmyG and won those games to get a better draft pick...
 

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I'm hoping the cellar team is the whiners. Their fans were getting stupid last season, crowning themselves as Super Bowl champions just about. Sure would be sweet to see them learn what we know well, that winning games down the stretch doesn't always mean a damn thing the next season.
I pretty much always hope the whiners are in the cellar. The shehawks being there would satisfy me too so long as they are battling the whiners for that honor.
 

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I pretty much always hope the whiners are in the cellar. The shehawks being there would satisfy me too so long as they are battling the whiners for that honor.

I also would add the Cardinals to that list. I would like all three to be at the bottom of NFC West and NFC in general. Maybe they could all tie every game they play each other, and lose all others. 0-12-4 seems about right.

Now that I'm adding things, I also hate all other NFC teams that make the playoffs.

..And if we make the Super Bowl, I will in advance proclaim I hate the AFC team we will play.

I am a simple man.
 

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I also would add the Cardinals to that list. I would like all three to be at the bottom of NFC West and NFC in general. Maybe they could all tie every game they play each other, and lose all others. 0-12-4 seems about right.

Now that I'm adding things, I also hate all other NFC teams that make the playoffs.

..And if we make the Super Bowl, I will in advance proclaim I hate the AFC team we will play.

I am a simple man.
I never developed the hatred for the Tards that I place on the other two. I would rather see the Tards beat both of the others and miss the playoffs by a tie breaker - maybe one that we hand them. That fat fuck is no longer coaching them so they get a big MEH from me.