TexasRam's O-line Grades: Week 2 - Colts

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Hey All,

Just a quick post to give my grades based on reviewing each snap from Yesterdays game. No hard data here just a mostly subjective grade with my reasons.

Overall the Oline played an excellent game. Buckner was tough to deal with when he made his inside moves on Havenstein and Corbs. Other than a few pressures by him there was very little else to complain about with the exception of big Whit getting beat on the inside move for the sack. Luckily Staff took it like a champ and held onto the ball. A lot could be said about the run game and the role of WR's and TE's and the role of the RB's which heavily affects each running play. I am mainly giving grades on the Pass Pro I observed from the 5 O-lineman.

Whit - B+ - Whit cannot be beat around the edge. He still has it. He is still stonewalling edge rushers in the passing game and is still a great technician in the run game. Still getting out and landing key blocks on the RB screens and WR bubble screens such as the big one Kupp had. Whit did get beat inside for a sack but seriously, watch each snap and you will see that was an anomaly to his overall very strong performance.

Edwards - A - I did not see Edwards give up a pressure. He is also getting quicker and more efficient on the stunt tradeoffs. It appears to me he is showing more push in the run game as well. When you watch him it's very difficult to see him blocking the wrong guy or getting pushed back. I think his game has improved a tick from last year.

Allen - B - Allen had a solid game. It was even better than the opener vs the Bears in which he got beat twice. I did not see him beat once in this game. He tends to give up just a tad in pass pro getting pushed back a little, but his technique is really solid. He is also quickly locating and sliding to the pressure and allowing for a solid pocket. I am so happy with how he has improved from 2019 when it was quite the shitshow at times. I guess Mcvay and Carberry knew what they were talking about. I guess I can be wrong once in a blue moon :}

Corbs - B - Corbs was really strong. Had a huge assignment with Buckner and held up pretty good. Got beat one time when Buckner split him and Havenstein and one other time by Buckner when Buck made an inside move then circled back to the QB for a pressure. Corbs continued to show strong run game push. He is in my opinion our strongest run game lineman outside of Havenstein. Lots of great quick response by Corbs on stunts and moving Dlineman.

Havs - B+ - Havenstein cannot get beat outside right now and I swear his technique is improved with his hand usage. Whit must have really got through to him this year because he shows the ability to lock on and stonewall the edge defender most snaps. He can get beat inside and actually was - on at least one play I saw - and then was beat on the Buckner move mentioned above where Buck split Havs and Corbs. Havs gets a B+ because he is also very good in the run game and he is just allowing for a perfect pocket consistently.

Here are my compiled scores from week1 and week2:

Player - Week1/Week2
Whitworth - B+/B+
Edwards - B/A
Allen - B minus/B
Corbett - B/B
Havenstein - A minus/B+

By the way - A massive test next week against Vita Vea, Suh and all those pro bowl LBer's blitzing.

What did the rest of you see?
 
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Edwards - 1 Hurry 1 Pressure
Whit - 1 Sack 1 Pressure
Allen - 0’s across the board in pass pro
Corbett - 1 Hit 1 Hurry 2 Pressures
Hav - 0’s across the board in pass pro
 

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Tough week coming with Via & Suh, here's hoping the OL continues to rise to the occasion.
 

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Absolute highest rated run blocker was Robert Woods (83.1) by a large margin which is nothing to scoff at because of position because he was involved in 92% of run blocking snaps as a run blocker.

Brian Allen was our highest rated O-lineman in the running game, Overall (70.2), Zone (68.4), Gap (66.6)

Whitworth - Overall (65.5), Zone (54.3), Gap (70.9)

Edwards - Overall (60.1), Zone (51.5), Gap (75)

Hav - Overall (51.8), Zone (50.7), Gap (58.7)

Corbett - Overall (49.8), Zone (52.9), Gap (50.9)
 

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Edwards - 1 Hurry 1 Pressure
Whit - 1 Sack 1 Pressure
Allen - 0’s across the board in pass pro
Corbett - 1 Hit 1 Hurry 2 Pressures
Hav - 0’s across the board in pass pro
What source are you using NJ?

Looks pretty consistent to what I jotted down. I’ll have to go back and look at the Buckner pressure where he split Corbs and Havs. I also had Havs beat on a separate inside move that I want to track down.
 

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What source are you using NJ?

Looks pretty consistent to what I jotted down. I’ll have to go back and look at the Buckner pressure where he split Corbs and Havs. I also had Havs beat on a separate inside move that I want to track down.
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Absolute highest rated run blocker was Robert Woods (83.1) by a large margin which is nothing to scoff at because of position because he was involved in 92% of run blocking snaps as a run blocker.

Brian Allen was our highest rated O-lineman in the running game, Overall (70.2), Zone (68.4), Gap (66.6)

Whitworth - Overall (65.5), Zone (54.3), Gap (70.9)

Edwards - Overall (60.1), Zone (51.5), Gap (75)

Hav - Overall (51.8), Zone (50.7), Gap (58.7)

Corbett - Overall (49.8), Zone (52.9), Gap (50.9)
Interesting. Source?

surprised to see Corbs rated so low from this source in the run game. Though as stated my main focus was pass pro.
 

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Ok. Yea it’s worth considering for comparisons sake. I’m hoping to go back tonight and nail down a play by play grade vs the more subjective one in my OP - Which was a quick inventory based on bad plays.
 

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Interesting. Source?

surprised to see Corbs rated so low from this source in the run game. Though as stated my main focus was pass pro.
Same as before. I watched the game initially and have yet to re-watch and focus on any position group I do that on tuesdays when coach’s film becomes available.

That being said just looking at the data it seems most of our success in week two came from running middle-left with Michel having some late success running off the RE.
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Glad to see people giving Allen his props... please don't' forget how he's done after next week.. because I think Vea is going to line up directly over him on a lot of pass plays. That guy is just an MFing load.

Oline play has been cohesive and solid. Allen has been at least as good as Blythe and probably a good uptick better.

I feel good about Noteboom as a backup, but don't feel great about the others. Hopefully we won't have to find out.
 

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I was impressed with the run blocking I saw by the Rams receivers, yesterday.
Single biggest reason, imo, that Van Jefferson is playing so much more than DJax. He's got the size, attitude and technique to work with that unit.
 

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According to the Data provided by Cocaine Cowboy the majority of the 5 OL'ers play the Gap scheme better than Zone. Interesting.

Which of us ever thought that center Brian Allen :clap::hug:would end up with the best OL'er ratings after a game this early this season? His play performance is much more consistent & solid to be mentioned in comparisons to Austin Blythe. Allen's worth is trending higher while Blythe is going in the opposite direction & very well might end up on WWC row.

If you were to go back & read the comments earlier this year on how this forum felt about Allen.......it would make some excellent reading:sur:. Most considered Allen "Cut Bait". Others were of the opinion that he might win the backup position. Very few ever imagined that Allen would end up being the starting OC let alone perform up with veteran starting OL'ers like Whitworth & Havenstein. :quiet:

As far as WR Woods's work performed ......his overall worth to this Ram team is off the charts no way to really bundle that & put it in an article paragraph & come close to painting the real value. It would not bother me if the Rams made him a Ram for as long as he wants to play.
 
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According to the Data provided by Cocaine Cowboy the majority of the 5 OL'ers play the Gap scheme better than Zone. Interesting.

Which of us ever thought that Allen would end up with the best ratings after a game?
Probably why mcVay moved on to another oline coach
 

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Michel is going to be a stud for us. For however long he lasts. :beer2::woozy2:
 

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Hey All,

Just a quick post to give my grades based on reviewing each snap from Yesterdays game. No hard data here just a mostly subjective grade with my reasons.

Overall the Oline played an excellent game. Buckner was tough to deal with when he made his inside moves on Havenstein and Corbs. Other than a few pressures by him there was very little else to complain about with the exception of big Whit getting beat on the inside move for the sack. Luckily Staff took it like a champ and held onto the ball. A lot could be said about the run game and the role of WR's and TE's and the role of the RB's which heavily affects each running play. I am mainly giving grades on the Pass Pro I observed from the 5 O-lineman.

Whit - B+ - Whit cannot be beat around the edge. He still has it. He is still stonewalling edge rushers in the passing game and is still a great technician in the run game. Still getting out and landing key blocks on the RB screens and WR bubble screens such as the big one Kupp had. Whit did get beat inside for a sack but seriously, watch each snap and you will see that was an anomaly to his overall very strong performance.

Edwards - A - I did not see Edwards give up a pressure. He is also getting quicker and more efficient on the stunt tradeoffs. It appears to me he is showing more push in the run game as well. When you watch him it's very difficult to see him blocking the wrong guy or getting pushed back. I think his game has improved a tick from last year.

Allen - B - Allen had a solid game. It was even better than the opener vs the Bears in which he got beat twice. I did not see him beat once in this game. He tends to give up just a tad in pass pro getting pushed back a little, but his technique is really solid. He is also quickly locating and sliding to the pressure and allowing for a solid pocket. I am so happy with how he has improved from 2019 when it was quite the shitshow at times. I guess Mcvay and Carberry knew what they were talking about. I guess I can be wrong once in a blue moon :}

Corbs - B - Corbs was really strong. Had a huge assignment with Buckner and held up pretty good. Got beat one time when Buckner split him and Havenstein and one other time by Buckner when Buck made an inside move then circled back to the QB for a pressure. Corbs continued to show strong run game push. He is in my opinion our strongest run game lineman outside of Havenstein. Lots of great quick response by Corbs on stunts and moving Dlineman.

Havs - B+ - Havenstein cannot get beat outside right now and I swear his technique is improved with his hand usage. Whit must have really got through to him this year because he shows the ability to lock on and stonewall the edge defender most snaps. He can get beat inside and actually was - on at least one play I saw - and then was beat on the Buckner move mentioned above where Buck split Havs and Corbs. Havs gets a B+ because he is also very good in the run game and he is just allowing for a perfect pocket consistently.

Here are my compiled scores from week1 and week2:

Player - Week1/Week2
Whitworth - B+/B+
Edwards - B/A
Allen - B minus/B
Corbett - B/B
Havenstein - A minus/B+

By the way - A massive test next week against Vita Vea, Suh and all those pro bowl LBer's blitzing.

What did the rest of you see?

Keep going with these Texas. Great thread/read. :thumbsup1:
 

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Wow Big Ed on Buckner:fire1:

I have a feeling being 27th in avg rush isn't indicative of how our OL will perform this year. I expect us to jump up--maybe not this week against the Bucs tho.

Edit: Funny how the bottom of the list in avg rush is good company:

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I love those isolation clips and how far Edwards has come. Those were some ass-kicking reps.
The Corbett roll is mesmerizing. So far, good stuff from the line.