LOL. He knows these things are televised and recorded, right?bluecoconuts said:Did you hear his explanation?
"And as I'm getting up I'm getting pushed, so I'm getting myself on balance and getting out of the situation. With that a lot of people are going to interpret that as.. Or create their own story lines for seeing what they want to interpret but I know what I did and the man upstairs knows what I did."
At least be a fucking man and admit you got carried away and did something stupid.
kurtfaulk said:.
bonehead.
keeps showing why the rams made the right choice with bradford.
how can the dirtiest player in the league help a struggling team? won't be much help sitting on the couch.
.
slinginsamfan said:kurtfaulk said:.
bonehead.
keeps showing why the rams made the right choice with bradford.
how can the dirtiest player in the league help a struggling team? won't be much help sitting on the couch.
.
I can see it now, Suh's behavior is Sam's fault. In college, Suh had to live with the realization that until Sam went down to injury, his team couldn't beat the Sooners. Sam was taken first in the draft while he was relegated to second. Sam's NFL contract was bigger even though he had no hesitation in stating he wanted more money than Sam was getting. At this point he is just another frustrated (however good) player. Then, on a Sunday in October of 2010, the Lions beat the Rams. But, more importantly, Suh's turning point as he finally "bests" Sam. He intercepts Sam's pass which ultimately leads to his grandiose conclusion that God has finally annointed him the greatest NFL player ever and beyond further reproach for any and all actions. Yep, totally Sam's fault.
Go Sam!!! Go Rams!!!
:slap!: Are you EVER going to acknowledge that he was protected last year?squeaky wheel said:I can't see what you see. But I can see that drafting a QB #1 OVERALL that you cannot protect isn't a good thing.
X said::slap!: Are you EVER going to acknowledge that he was protected last year?squeaky wheel said:I can't see what you see. But I can see that drafting a QB #1 OVERALL that you cannot protect isn't a good thing.
LOL. I do, huh? Amazing that you have the ability to take a simple statement (they protected him last year) and make it something else (last year the O-line gave other teams fits). Stick to the plan, Stan.squeaky wheel said:You act like the O line last year gave other teams fits. It didn't.
X said:LOL. I do, huh? Amazing that you have the ability to take a simple statement (they protected him last year) and make it something else (last year the O-line gave other teams fits). Stick to the plan, Stan.squeaky wheel said:You act like the O line last year gave other teams fits. It didn't.
Bradford's sack percentage last year: 5.45%.
Amount of teams with a worse sack percentage in 2010: TWENTY.
The bottom line is, the Rams didn't draft Bradford with a sieve of an offense line in place. That just didn't happen, no matter how many times you claim it did. They put a lot of resources into that line TO protect him. A lot of those sacks last year were on Bradford, by the way. Know what though? EVERY rookie quarterback is responsible for his own sacks. Happens all the time. You don't have to take my word for it though. Bradford said it himself.
I don't remember you saying last year, that the Rams weren't protecting Bradford. You were complaining about the dink and dunk that WAS protecting him. So were a lot of people. Well, now we know that it wasn't a bad strategy considering we had virtually no wide-outs. Roll-outs were by design. Utilizing his strengths. That is SO not masking a deficiency on the line when it happens. That's an OC giving his QB half the field to survey, and limiting his reads while giving both him and the receiver time to connect.
THIS year, the offensive coordinator escapes criticism because he's the antithesis of dink and dunk. Why is that? And why is Bradford already at his previous year's sack totals with 6 games remaining? Here's a hint. Last year the offensive line, as a group, played 15 of 16 games together. This year? Not even close. Last year the offensive strategy was in place for 2 years and players were familiar with it. This year? Not even close. So, just skip last year and say the draft strategy was wrong. Because, ya know, that makes more sense.
squeaky wheel said:And you interject sack percentage as if it answers QB protection.....which it doesn't. Odd you won't address hits and and hurries with your stats! I have no problem blaming McD for a good amount of abuse SB has been subjected to as I never was in favor of McD in the first place. I thought the Rams shouldn't have allowed Shurmur to leave (I know unlikely since promotion) or have gotten a rock solid commitment from him NOT TO LEAVE for at least 2 years....or at a minimum get some freaking compensation of some kind (which wouldn't be enough!). Plus McD is hired as this genius that this Rams team embarrassed on the road last season! Shit even Martz simplified the offense for a rookie Bulger with a turnstile at RT!
Oh and all your reasons given for this years abysmal play at QB.....goes for Bulger at the end too. Notice how SB locks onto the receiver seemingly not even trying to go through his reads. He's flat out missing open WRs now. Look at him leaving the field after the foregone conclusion of another 3 and out. This keeps up and he's Bulger in the making. A unbelievably expensive (1st pick OVERALL) Bulger. A loss this team can't afford. Although 4 years into the process we finally get a bonafide #1 WR! :boing:
bluecoconuts said:squeaky wheel said:And you interject sack percentage as if it answers QB protection.....which it doesn't. Odd you won't address hits and and hurries with your stats! I have no problem blaming McD for a good amount of abuse SB has been subjected to as I never was in favor of McD in the first place. I thought the Rams shouldn't have allowed Shurmur to leave (I know unlikely since promotion) or have gotten a rock solid commitment from him NOT TO LEAVE for at least 2 years....or at a minimum get some freaking compensation of some kind (which wouldn't be enough!). Plus McD is hired as this genius that this Rams team embarrassed on the road last season! shyte even Martz simplified the offense for a rookie Bulger with a turnstile at RT!
Oh and all your reasons given for this years abysmal play at QB.....goes for Bulger at the end too. Notice how SB locks onto the receiver seemingly not even trying to go through his reads. He's flat out missing open WRs now. Look at him leaving the field after the foregone conclusion of another 3 and out. This keeps up and he's Bulger in the making. A unbelievably expensive (1st pick OVERALL) Bulger. A loss this team can't afford. Although 4 years into the process we finally get a bonafide #1 WR! :boing:
How are the Rams supposed to make Shurmur stay? He was offered a promotion, you can't expect him not to take that, who does that?
Also, Bulger was drafted in 2000, he sat on the bench for 2 years before making his first start. He was sacked 12 times in 7 games in 2002, and he was in an offense he had several years to learn, you can't really compare them in terms of knowing the offense for being comfortable. Even the talent around Bulger at that time was far superior, in terms of WR and RB.
squeaky wheel said:bluecoconuts said:squeaky wheel said:And you interject sack percentage as if it answers QB protection.....which it doesn't. Odd you won't address hits and and hurries with your stats! I have no problem blaming McD for a good amount of abuse SB has been subjected to as I never was in favor of McD in the first place. I thought the Rams shouldn't have allowed Shurmur to leave (I know unlikely since promotion) or have gotten a rock solid commitment from him NOT TO LEAVE for at least 2 years....or at a minimum get some freaking compensation of some kind (which wouldn't be enough!). Plus McD is hired as this genius that this Rams team embarrassed on the road last season! shyte even Martz simplified the offense for a rookie Bulger with a turnstile at RT!
Oh and all your reasons given for this years abysmal play at QB.....goes for Bulger at the end too. Notice how SB locks onto the receiver seemingly not even trying to go through his reads. He's flat out missing open WRs now. Look at him leaving the field after the foregone conclusion of another 3 and out. This keeps up and he's Bulger in the making. A unbelievably expensive (1st pick OVERALL) Bulger. A loss this team can't afford. Although 4 years into the process we finally get a bonafide #1 WR! :boing:
How are the Rams supposed to make Shurmur stay? He was offered a promotion, you can't expect him not to take that, who does that?
Also, Bulger was drafted in 2000, he sat on the bench for 2 years before making his first start. He was sacked 12 times in 7 games in 2002, and he was in an offense he had several years to learn, you can't really compare them in terms of knowing the offense for being comfortable. Even the talent around Bulger at that time was far superior, in terms of WR and RB.
Well it's called a CONTRACT. Plus I alluded the same in my post about promotion so I don't get your response. So be it.
Everything you said about Bulger is true.....but none of it addresses my post. I'm not calling SB Bulger. I say the same conditions exist NOW and SB is taking on some of the same bad habits Bulger was criticized for at the end. SB looked quite comfortable in Shurmur's offense and was progressing until the final few games last season. Then the OC is replaced with little time to prepare for a much more complicated offense. Like I said Martz SIMPLIFIED things for Bulger at first. Martz of all people....now this McD won't do likewise for SB with a considerably degraded offense and new offensive scheme?
bluecoconuts said:squeaky wheel said:bluecoconuts said:squeaky wheel said:And you interject sack percentage as if it answers QB protection.....which it doesn't. Odd you won't address hits and and hurries with your stats! I have no problem blaming McD for a good amount of abuse SB has been subjected to as I never was in favor of McD in the first place. I thought the Rams shouldn't have allowed Shurmur to leave (I know unlikely since promotion) or have gotten a rock solid commitment from him NOT TO LEAVE for at least 2 years....or at a minimum get some freaking compensation of some kind (which wouldn't be enough!). Plus McD is hired as this genius that this Rams team embarrassed on the road last season! shyte even Martz simplified the offense for a rookie Bulger with a turnstile at RT!
Oh and all your reasons given for this years abysmal play at QB.....goes for Bulger at the end too. Notice how SB locks onto the receiver seemingly not even trying to go through his reads. He's flat out missing open WRs now. Look at him leaving the field after the foregone conclusion of another 3 and out. This keeps up and he's Bulger in the making. A unbelievably expensive (1st pick OVERALL) Bulger. A loss this team can't afford. Although 4 years into the process we finally get a bonafide #1 WR! :boing:
How are the Rams supposed to make Shurmur stay? He was offered a promotion, you can't expect him not to take that, who does that?
Also, Bulger was drafted in 2000, he sat on the bench for 2 years before making his first start. He was sacked 12 times in 7 games in 2002, and he was in an offense he had several years to learn, you can't really compare them in terms of knowing the offense for being comfortable. Even the talent around Bulger at that time was far superior, in terms of WR and RB.
Well it's called a CONTRACT. Plus I alluded the same in my post about promotion so I don't get your response. So be it.
Everything you said about Bulger is true.....but none of it addresses my post. I'm not calling SB Bulger. I say the same conditions exist NOW and SB is taking on some of the same bad habits Bulger was criticized for at the end. SB looked quite comfortable in Shurmur's offense and was progressing until the final few games last season. Then the OC is replaced with little time to prepare for a much more complicated offense. Like I said Martz SIMPLIFIED things for Bulger at first. Martz of all people....now this McD won't do likewise for SB with a considerably degraded offense and new offensive scheme?
His contract was for two years, it was up and they would have had to resign him to a new contract but as soon as the season ended Cleveland came calling for him, it's not like the Rams let him go and then he got hired to be the HC in Cleveland, the season ended and he was hired away. The last game of the season, Seattle was January 2nd. He was interviewed by Cleveland on the 7th and hired on the 13th, it's not like the Rams had a big say in the matter.
McDaniels isn't a stupid coach, his offense might take a while, and needs some more stability, but that's part of the process. If we ever want Bradford to learn how to fly, he needs to be pushed from the nest. You can't just dumb it down all the time and hold his hand, if Bradford ever wants to be elite he'll need to learn how make those protection calls, read the defenses faster, and find his receivers open. A big part of our offense isn't the scheme as much as a lack of stability and receivers struggling. You can't give someone a 3rd grade math book and expect them to figure out Trig.
squeaky wheel said:Well if it was up at the end of last season then the Rams were losing Shurmur once the walrus called. I didn't realize that. However our FO should have when assessing the labor contract and getting an OC more in tune with what was being built by Shurmur rather than McD starting everyone cold. I tend to disagree about the handing of SB.....I don't see the Rams having the luxury of f'ing around for years and getting an Alex Smith year....years hence.
Plus McD hasn't shown anything POSITIVE outside of the Patriots. Denver was a mess that he had a hand in. Last game was an eye opener for everyone....or it should have been. Our defense was prepared but our offense wasn't prepared with a plan that could have worked. Halftime adjustments.....of course, none of substance.
squeaky wheel said:slinginsamfan said:kurtfaulk said:.
bonehead.
keeps showing why the rams made the right choice with bradford.
how can the dirtiest player in the league help a struggling team? won't be much help sitting on the couch.
.
I can see it now, Suh's behavior is Sam's fault. In college, Suh had to live with the realization that until Sam went down to injury, his team couldn't beat the Sooners. Sam was taken first in the draft while he was relegated to second. Sam's NFL contract was bigger even though he had no hesitation in stating he wanted more money than Sam was getting. At this point he is just another frustrated (however good) player. Then, on a Sunday in October of 2010, the Lions beat the Rams. But, more importantly, Suh's turning point as he finally "bests" Sam. He intercepts Sam's pass which ultimately leads to his grandiose conclusion that God has finally annointed him the greatest NFL player ever and beyond further reproach for any and all actions. Yep, totally Sam's fault.
Go Sam!!! Go Rams!!!
I can't see what you see. But I can see that drafting a QB #1 OVERALL that you cannot protect isn't a good thing.