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The 2008 draft was controlled mostly by Linehan (this has been confirmed). Devaney became the GM in December of 2008, so he didn't really have a scouting department in place in April of 2008. Stands to reason, right? But since a great deal of people MUST include 2008 in the Devaney "era", this is who "he" brought in here, and who are on the team to this day (UDFA's included).
Sam Bradford
Robert Quinn
Chris Long
Jason Smith
Rodger Saffold
James Laurinaitis
Lance Kendricks
Bradley Fletcher
Austin Pettis
Justin King
Darell Scott
Greg Salas
Michael Hoomanawanui
Eugene Sims
Marquis Johnson
Chris Chamberlain
Josh Hull
CJ Ah You
Darian Stewart UDFA
Jacob McQuaide UDFA
Kevin Hughes UDFA
Dominique Curry UDFA
Tim Atchison UDFA
Danario Alexander UDFA
(that's 6 players per year, drafted and undrafted, who are still here)
*This doesn't include players they plucked off of other teams' practice squads (Gibson, Amendola, Drew Miller, Josh Gordy, Brian Jackson, Nate Ness, Quinn Porter, Bryan Mattison. That makes it 8 players per year (averaged out over 4 years).
A lot of them are on IR, so it stands to reason that a team with very limited depth after a 2009 housecleaning would tend to be more adversely affected by a rash of injuries like that. Wouldn't it? Stand to reason? So in 2009 they lose all their quarterbacks in various games, and lose receivers in such excess that they have to trade for one (Gibson) mid-season. And start him immediately.
In 2010 the CBA relegated hundreds of UFA's to RFA's unless they had accrued 5 years. So the market was very limited with available talent. We all remember that. The only names being bandied about with any serious consideration were Moss and Owens here. So they go into the season with receivers that everyone says "suck." Outside of conjuring some up out of thin air, not a whole lot anyone can do about that. Started a rookie QB and won 6 more games than the previous year and with one of the youngest teams in the league.
In 2011, everybody got injured. 10(11?) corners, 4 tackles, 3 receivers (4 now), the starting TE, the starting QB, backup QB, Long playing on a bad wheel, Robbins playing with a bad back, no off-season with multiple new players at new positions, new offensive system improperly implemented, stout schedule, offensive line shuffled to and fro, and whatever "excuses" anyone wants to add on top of that.
I ask you. Is there a coach who would notch more than 8 wins with that set of circumstances thrust upon them? Anyone? Does anyone here think a cumulative pile of crappy circumstances like this warrants proper evaluation of the head coach? Or the GM? In three years, and with all of that, we're done giving these guys a shot? Honestly? I'm not thrilled with the lack of playmakers, so hindsight re-drafts certainly give people ample ammunition to say Devaney has failed. Maybe he has if you use that criteria. I don't know though. I can't render judgement on him anyway; but even if I could, I wouldn't do it after 3 years and with all of the variables in place that show he didn't have a fair shake either.
Anyway, as the title suggests, can someone show me where the fault lies for the record Spags has to date?
Sam Bradford
Robert Quinn
Chris Long
Jason Smith
Rodger Saffold
James Laurinaitis
Lance Kendricks
Bradley Fletcher
Austin Pettis
Justin King
Darell Scott
Greg Salas
Michael Hoomanawanui
Eugene Sims
Marquis Johnson
Chris Chamberlain
Josh Hull
CJ Ah You
Darian Stewart UDFA
Jacob McQuaide UDFA
Kevin Hughes UDFA
Dominique Curry UDFA
Tim Atchison UDFA
Danario Alexander UDFA
(that's 6 players per year, drafted and undrafted, who are still here)
*This doesn't include players they plucked off of other teams' practice squads (Gibson, Amendola, Drew Miller, Josh Gordy, Brian Jackson, Nate Ness, Quinn Porter, Bryan Mattison. That makes it 8 players per year (averaged out over 4 years).
A lot of them are on IR, so it stands to reason that a team with very limited depth after a 2009 housecleaning would tend to be more adversely affected by a rash of injuries like that. Wouldn't it? Stand to reason? So in 2009 they lose all their quarterbacks in various games, and lose receivers in such excess that they have to trade for one (Gibson) mid-season. And start him immediately.
In 2010 the CBA relegated hundreds of UFA's to RFA's unless they had accrued 5 years. So the market was very limited with available talent. We all remember that. The only names being bandied about with any serious consideration were Moss and Owens here. So they go into the season with receivers that everyone says "suck." Outside of conjuring some up out of thin air, not a whole lot anyone can do about that. Started a rookie QB and won 6 more games than the previous year and with one of the youngest teams in the league.
In 2011, everybody got injured. 10(11?) corners, 4 tackles, 3 receivers (4 now), the starting TE, the starting QB, backup QB, Long playing on a bad wheel, Robbins playing with a bad back, no off-season with multiple new players at new positions, new offensive system improperly implemented, stout schedule, offensive line shuffled to and fro, and whatever "excuses" anyone wants to add on top of that.
I ask you. Is there a coach who would notch more than 8 wins with that set of circumstances thrust upon them? Anyone? Does anyone here think a cumulative pile of crappy circumstances like this warrants proper evaluation of the head coach? Or the GM? In three years, and with all of that, we're done giving these guys a shot? Honestly? I'm not thrilled with the lack of playmakers, so hindsight re-drafts certainly give people ample ammunition to say Devaney has failed. Maybe he has if you use that criteria. I don't know though. I can't render judgement on him anyway; but even if I could, I wouldn't do it after 3 years and with all of the variables in place that show he didn't have a fair shake either.
Anyway, as the title suggests, can someone show me where the fault lies for the record Spags has to date?
