RB - AJ Dillon vs Derrick Henry - based on stats he should be a steal

[Memento]

Both players had minimal yards in the pass game Henry is not better they both were basically non existent.

The difference is that during Henry's tenure in Alabama, Saban rarely used the running back in the passing game. Henry still had to block when he was on the field, and he wasn't as bad as Dillon. Dillon is 6'0", 240 lbs., so you think he wouldn't struggle in power against linebackers and leverage for defensive line. He struggled badly. Like, really badly.

Henry is completely better than Dillon. Better runner. Better blocker. Better player. There is no comparison. Dillon is off of my draft board for the Rams based on how limited he is, and I hope he's off of the Rams' draft board as well.

 

[jrry32]

Any player that can Manhandle goal line duties would be a good late round pick.

I'm seriously concerned about the red zone production we lost from TG.

I'm honestly not that concerned. Darrell Henderson and Brown could each handle it. Henderson might be smaller than Gurley, but he's quick to the hole and built very compactly. He had 22 rushing TDs in his final year in college. With short yardage, people tend to think bigger is better, and it can be. But I think what's more important is how quickly you can get to the LOS and your contact balance.

 

[jrry32]

The difference is that during Henry's tenure in Alabama, Saban rarely used the running back in the passing game. Henry still had to block when he was on the field, and he wasn't as bad as Dillon. Dillon is 6'0", 240 lbs., so you think he wouldn't struggle in power against linebackers and leverage for defensive line. He struggled badly. Like, really badly.

Henry is completely better than Dillon. Better runner. Better blocker. Better player. There is no comparison. Dillon is off of my draft board for the Rams based on how limited he is, and I hope he's off of the Rams' draft board as well.

My concern with Dillon is less strength and leverage. We can teach him. It's more how out of sorts he looked trying to figure out who to block. Yes, you can teach that to an extent. But ultimately, you're counting on your HB to read the defense well enough and have the mental processing to be able to adjust on the fly. Gurley was exceptional at that. Dillon was easily confused in college and too often got himself out of position, leading to a blown assignment.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Our scheme needs tweaked and no one knows if we have a feature back right now. You take the back who can best move the chains no matter what down it is and impact the game.

I hope the Rams fill the RB room with multiple tools instead of swiss army knives.

 

[Malibu]

I'm honestly not that concerned. Darrell Henderson and Brown could each handle it. Henderson might be smaller than Gurley, but he's quick to the hole and built very compactly. He had 22 rushing TDs in his final year in college. With short yardage, people tend to think bigger is better, and it can be. But I think what's more important is how quickly you can get to the LOS and your contact balance.

I don't get your logic. Neither could handle last year why is this year going to be better.

 

[jrry32]

Our scheme needs tweaked and no one knows if we have a feature back right now. You take the back who can best move the chains no matter what down it is and impact the game.

I hope the Rams fill the RB room with multiple tools instead of swiss army knives.

We've had it out before, so I won't rehash too deeply. But I think this is like asking Mike Martz to retool his scheme by embracing Chuck Knox's style of offense. McVay's scheme is based around versatility. In order to change that, it would involve completely changing what has gotten him to where he is. I don't expect that to happen.

 

[jrry32]

I don't get your logic. Neither could handle last year why is this year going to be better.

I don't get your logic. Henderson barely played last year because he was a rookie and not ready. Brown had 5 rushing TDs on 69 carries. That's one TD per every 13.8 carries. Gurley had 12 rushing TDs on 223 carries. That's one TD per every 18.6 carries. Brown has proven capable of handling goal-line work. We simply didn't need him in the past because Todd Gurley stayed on the field.

 

[Dodgersrf]

I'm honestly not that concerned. Darrell Henderson and Brown could each handle it. Henderson might be smaller than Gurley, but he's quick to the hole and built very compactly. He had 22 rushing TDs in his final year in college. With short yardage, people tend to think bigger is better, and it can be. But I think what's more important is how quickly you can get to the LOS and your contact balance.

A certainly hope you're correct.
I know you've seen much more of Henderson than I have.
Browns injuries concern me. Even with a limited role, he seems to struggle with injuries.

 

[Mojo Ram]

But I think this is like asking Mike Martz to retool his scheme by embracing Chuck Knox's style of offense.

That's a bit extreme isn't it? Lol. You read my post. I said tweaked. Another word i'd use is evolve. Yet another word would be adapt. No one including myself is talking about a completely different offense.

I also believe that because McV is young he'll be more open to new ideas and concepts concerning his offense than someone like say...Martz or Knox.

 

[jrry32]

A certainly hope you're correct.
I know you've seen much more of Henderson than I have.
Browns injuries concern me. Even with a limited role, he seems to struggle with injuries.

Yeah, I'm hesitant to count on Brown for a big role.

 

[jrry32]

That's a bit extreme isn't it? Lol. You read my post. I said tweaked. Another word i'd use is evolve. Yet another word would be adapt. No one including myself is talking about a completely different offense.

I also believe that because McV is young he'll be more open to new ideas and concepts concerning his offense than someone like say...Martz or Knox.

What I'm saying is that I think it is incompatible with how he schemes. I don't really see it as evolving. I think expanding personnel packages or the diversity of our blocking schemes is evolving. I don't really think specialists at HB is evolving. I think it's limiting, personally. It makes sense for a team who attacks differently than we do, but I don't think it's compatible with what McVay wants to do.

Hell, I think letting Wade walk indicates that. Why? He wanted to replace Wade's execution/strength vs. strength approach with an approach that emphasizes scheming and keeping the other team off balance. A guy like Dillon tips your hand. He makes sense for a team that says, "I'll take my strength and beat your strength with it." But for a team that wants to outsmart the defense, I don't think he makes a lot of sense. In that vein, he's more indicative of the Wade approach than the McVay approach. Am I making sense?

 

[Texram]

What I'm saying is that I think it is incompatible with how he schemes. I don't really see it as evolving. I think expanding personnel packages or the diversity of our blocking schemes is evolving. I don't really think specialists at HB is evolving. I think it's limiting, personally. It makes sense for a team who attacks differently than we do, but I don't think it's compatible with what McVay wants to do.

Hell, I think letting Wade walk indicates that. Why? He wanted to replace Wade's execution/strength vs. strength approach with an approach that emphasizes scheming and keeping the other team off balance. A guy like Dillon tips your hand. He makes sense for a team that says, "I'll take my strength and beat your strength with it." But for a team that wants to outsmart the defense, I don't think he makes a lot of sense. In that vein, he's more indicative of the Wade approach than the McVay approach. Am I making sense?

Agree completely. That is the key McVay took from the Super Bowl...which should always be the goal. When playing talented playoff teams, it is the team that can do the unexpected. Good teams will always scheme to take away your strength...so you need skill position players that can athletically attack in unexpected ways.