Rams leveraged compensatory formula in their team build (Updated)

[majrleaged]

DUH

 

[blackbart]

While JB Scott might be tagging on the Rams, his drivel only points out what smart fans (like those on ROD) already know.

The Rams are a quality organization from the top down. They evaluate and coach better than other teams, they play the money game better than most and player want to play in that culture.

It’s our turn to be the envy of the league and it’s about damn time.

 

[RamFan503]

It’s our turn to be the envy of the league and it’s about damn time.

I'm good with that.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

I used to wonder the same thing with the Cheatriots. They always seemed to get lots of high comp picks, while competing every year.

 

[kurtfaulk]

The NFL should change its process for compensatory draft awards​

The Rams have benefited greatly from this system, which is also a sign it’s not working as intended

By JB Scott Jun 22, 2022

The NFL should change its process for compensatory draft awards

The Rams have benefited greatly from this system, which is also a sign it’s not working as intended

www.turfshowtimes.com

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The time has come for the NFL to make changes to its compensatory selection award process.

It’s a matter of good idea, bad execution - and the NFL isn’t the only major sports league that follows this approach. The MLB also awards teams additional draft capital for losing players via free agency or qualifying offers, and the league can reduce draft capital for teams that spend in excess of the luxury tax limits.

The driving idea behind these compensatory draft awards is that smaller market teams may not have the cash or ability to attract players in free agency, and the league gives them additional draft capital in order to maintain competitive balance.

But in practice that’s not how it works in the NFL, or at least that’s not how things have shaken out in recent years.

Teams like the Los Angeles Rams have leveraged the compensatory formula in their team build, and wisely so. LA prioritizes signing players that have been released versus entering free agency with an expiring contract - Leonard Floyd, Eric Weddle, Ndamukong Suh, Bobby Wagner, and others are examples. With owner Stan Kroenke’s deep pockets and the draw of the Los Angeles market, the Rams are able to recruit the top talent available. The result has been a star-studded roster and a 2021 Super Bowl ring.

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The rules of the system are in plain sight and the Rams use them to their advantage - it’s objective and completely fair. If the formula regularly rewards large market teams with cash to burn, do the rules then need changed?

And this is not meant to make the Rams out to be the bad guys - they are not alone. If the intent is to restore competitive balance within the NFL, why do the compensatory draft picks seem to be consistently awarded to the best teams?

2022 Compensatory Awards​

Based on free agency spending in 2021​

The following teams were awarded multiple compensatory choices ahead of the 2022 NFL Draft, with the notation of their record in 2020.

• Arizona Cardinals: 6th round, 2 7th round (3); 8-8 record
• Baltimore Ravens: 2 4th round (2); 11-5 record
• Dallas Cowboys: 2 5th round (2); 6-10 record
• Detroit Lions: 3rd round, 5th round, 6th round (3); 5-11 record
• Green Bay Packers: 4th round, 7th round (2); 13-3 record
• Indianapolis Colts: 5th round, 6th round (2); 11-5 record
• Kansas City Chiefs: 2 7th round (2); 14-2 record
• Los Angeles Chargers: 6th round, 4 7th round (5); 7-9 record
• Los Angeles Rams: 4th round, 4 6th round (5); 10-6 record
• San Francisco 49ers: 2 6th round, 7th round (3); 6-10 record
• Tennessee Titans: 4th round, 6th round (2); 11-5 record

Of the 31 total picks outlined above, a solid majority went to teams that won at least 8 games (18 or 58%). If you count the Chargers at 7-9, who also have the Los Angeles market to recruit top talent, the percentage jumps to 75%.

The Lions were awarded 3 compensatory selections for the 2021 draft, but where were the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Houston Texans, or the Minnesota Vikings? These are all smaller market teams that you’d expect the compensatory formula to benefit as a means of restoring competitive balance, but they are notably absent from the list.
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Logan Bruss (OG), was a compensatory selection for the Rams this offseason. Bruss will compete for the starting job at RG, according to Sean McVay and Les Snead.

2023 Compensatory Awards**​

Based on free agency spending in 2022​

**Projected via OverTheCap.com​

The following teams are projected to earn multiple compensatory choices ahead of the 2023 NFL Draft, with the notation of their record in 2021.

• Arizona Cardinals: 3rd round, 5th round, 6th round (3); 11-6
• Dallas Cowboys: 4th round, 2 6th round (3); 12-5
• New England Patriots: 3rd round, 6th round (2); 10-7
• New York Giants: 5th round, 7th round (2); 4-13
• Kansas City Chiefs: 2 6th round (2); 12-5
• Las Vegas Raiders: 5th round, 2 7th round (3); 10-7
• Los Angeles Rams: 2 5th round, 6th round, 7th round (4); 12-5
• Minnesota Vikings: 2 6th round (2); 8-9
• San Francisco 49ers: 5th round, 6th round, 7th round (3); 10-7
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 5th round, 7th round (2); 13-4
• Washington Commodes: 3rd round, 6th round (2); 7-10

28 projected compensatory selections are listed above, with 24 picks (86%) slated to go to teams that won at least 8 games this past season.

What’s changed?​

Savvy teams understand the benefit of gaming the compensatory selection formula, and for the most part these additional draft picks are being distributed to already well-run organizations.

While these draft choices are intended to level the playing field and restore competitive balance, in recent years they have only widened the gap between the have’s and have not’s. Teams like the Rams and Cowboys use their large markets and deep pockets to attract the best talent - and year in and year out they stretch the salary cap to its maximum constraints.

Meanwhile the organizations at the bottom of the barrel seem to stay there, and the Jaguars, Lions, and Texans are still swirling the drain.

Is the system fixable?​

The NFL has awarded compensatory picks since 1994, though the idea of approaching free agency with the intention of maximizing future draft capital seems to be new. The disparity in outcomes is probably not enough to warrant ending the practice altogether, but changes need to be made in order to strike a balance.

Should the NFL begin accounting for a team’s win/loss record in the compensatory formula? The draft is mostly a crapshoot even for the most adept organizations, so why not give the worst teams more darts to throw?

One of the most exciting aspects of professional football is the parity that occurs year in and year out. Each season comes with a renewed sense of optimism, even for teams that had no shot at contention a year ago.

The way to grow the game is to ensure this parity continues to take place, and perhaps even throw gasoline on the fire. Giving the bad teams a nudge could help them turnaround their roster build quicker - and it would make the NFL more competitive overall.

I suggest the author of this piece should not give up his day job.

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[So Ram]

I used to wonder the same thing with the Cheatriots. They always seemed to get lots of high comp picks, while competing every year.

Belacheat was one of the best ever at trading back.He was also very good at taking advantage of troubled teams.The Raiders seem to be one of them.Miss trade comes to mind
Funny how Joyner & Littleton both got The E r ama comp picks.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Yeah that article is bullshit, the comp system works perfectly in multiple ways. First off, this line....

why do the compensatory draft picks seem to be consistently awarded to the best teams?

Because the best teams always get poached year after year by other teams... usually shit managed teams... because they think over paying for an OLBer who benefitted from playing next to AD is a good idea... as an example. But it happens every year, free agents get stupid contracts from teams and it's usually players that were on good teams being signed by lesser teams in hopes that they get the same performance.

Also, another benefit is it gives teams incentive to sign aging veterans. And could be argued was part of the reason the Rams lost Von Miller thus losing talent. Buffalo is a lesser market but they decided it was worth spending premium money on an aging vet. Rams decided it was better to spend less money on a WR they really liked and not hurt their comp pick by signing a less coveted aging LBer who could help in a different way. Maybe it pays off for Buffalo... but if Rams win another SB or go farther than Bills are they abusing a system or just being smarter?

Either way, the system is there for everyone. Whine some more because a lot of GMs/owners are morons.

Exactly. Of course the most successful teams get poached, and therefore get comp picks… that’s the point of the system.

 

[BonifayRam]

Exactly. Of course the most successful teams get poached, and therefore get comp picks… that’s the point of the system.

Then there are his forthcoming concerns with the Ram Org having strong future HC prospects (Morris/Brown) contained this season therein that will strongly be considered for promotions that will produce even more of a bountiful collection of future 3rd round Compensatory Selection Awards (FOUR/4).

These real possible comp selections would be awarded on top in addition to the primary CSA process.

 

[Psycho_X]

Then there are his forthcoming concerns with the Ram Org having strong future HC prospects (Morris/Brown) contained this season therein that will strongly be considered for promotions that will produce even more of a bountiful collection of future 3rd round Compensatory Selection Awards (FOUR/4).

These real possible comp selections would be awarded on top in addition to the primary CSA process.

Good point, we hire and develop minority candidates which is exactly what the NFL wants and this guy wants to take that benefit away from us?

Ultimately what it comes down to is we mostly get a lot of 6th and 7th round draft picks and Snead actually gets useful, depth players out of that range where most other teams don't get shit. If we were bad at drafting players it wouldn't matter and this guy wouldn't care. So complain about us "gaming the system" all he wants but when it comes down to it the only thing we are ahead of the curve on is our superior front office and coaching staff.

 

[BonifayRam]

Good point, we hire and develop minority candidates which is exactly what the NFL wants and this guy wants to take that benefit away from us?

Ultimately what it comes down to is we mostly get a lot of 6th and 7th round draft picks and Snead actually gets useful, depth players out of that range where most other teams don't get shit. If we were bad at drafting players it wouldn't matter and this guy wouldn't care. So complain about us "gaming the system" all he wants but when it comes down to it the only thing we are ahead of the curve on is our superior front office and coaching staff.

Yep, he (Scott) sure missed what the NFL has been striving to do the last decade & I do not see the NFL lifting their foot off the gas pedal just because a now, big city team is maxing out their newly created process either.

I believe that Snead has hit his stride now as one of the top 3 NFL GMs since 2017. He might be still climbing & raising the bar! Hitting on so many of these 3rd-day selections must really bethe rest of the NFL.

I am enjoying this period of time in Ram fan history since the late 60s.

 

[Tano]

Yep, he (Scott) sure missed what the NFL has been striving to do the last decade & I do not see the NFL lifting their foot off the gas pedal just because a now, big city team is maxing out their newly created process either.

I believe that Snead has hit his stride now as one of the top 3 NFL GMs since 2017. He might be still climbing & raising the bar! Hitting on so many of these 3rd-day selections must really bethe rest of the NFL.

I am enjoying this period of time in Ram fan history since the late 60s.

I am too - too many prolonged periods of frustration during the Georgia years in the 1990s and 2000s (other than the 4 good to great years in that timespan)

 

[sloramfan]

not sure if this was already posted cuz i jumped to the last page to get my 2 cents in...

it's pretty simple guys, and i explained this to my girlfriend a few years ago, when i saw what the rams were doing...

280 or so players are drafted each year, out of what? eligible or declared, i don't know the number, but we're talking thousands i'm sure...

the rams are just using a draft evaluation method they came up with, and it's working... it's so game changing, that other teams are hiring rams personnel to crack the code (jmpo)...

the rams are making other teams with better draft picks look like they don't know how to evaluate...

and picking a guy one year, and developing him for at least one year, and hopefully he moves into the top 53, and possibly a contributor, or hopefully a starter...or maybe a second year starter/contributor... it's just what they do, then when his big payday, that he's earned comes around, it "good luck and glad to have had you for the time we did".. and they move FORWARD....

guys.... we're pretty lucky as rams fans to have this hierarchy....

go rams

slo

 

[Gandalf]

Very high chance that DC Morris will not be overlooked next season like he was this off-season. I expect that Snead will be awarded two 3rd rd comp selections in 2023 & 2024 when Morris is named HC.

Then if that was not enough teams will be very interested in McVay's Assistant Head Coach who has been with McVay for 4 seasons on the offensive side of the ball, 2 of which as the Rams Assistant HC. I would bet that Brown will get a very quick offer. This would also in addition award the Rams another set of 3rd rd selections in 2023 & 2024.

How would Snead act if he had his original 2nd rd picks in 2023/2024 & three 3rd rd'ers in the 2023 & 2024 drafts after sitting almost all of the first two days of this year's draft?

First two days of the draft are vacation days. I think it is written in his contact.

 

[Gandalf]

I suggest the author of this piece should not give up his day job.

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I think he is still getting unemployment. Guess you don't need much cash if you're living in Mommie's basement.