Rams & Chiefs Have the Worst NFL Fan Bases

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At least according to a Emory University professor, the bastid! Saw this story via a segment on GMFB, referencing the before mentioned study. He had three requirements
1. How much money did fans spend for the team?
2. How good is their Social Media game?
3. How well does a fanbase travel/spend away from home?

Read a story about it on USA Today..
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/kansas-city-chiefs-near-worst-in-nfl-fan-base-study

btw...The Rams are ranked dead last, those sonsabiaches!
 

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FTW/USA Today looks like the National Enquirer of sports rags. Southern California is loaded with transplants from all over the northern half of the country who are bound to carry their affections for their original favorite teams with them. I don't care and I'm sure the Rams players and coaches don't either.
 

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Yet the Chargers can only draw about 15k fans per game....
 

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That "Dr." is proof of the educated idiot. Chiefs fanbase is one to be envied.
 

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We're the worst huh? Not sure what their metric is but this article by Vinnie paints a different picture......

https://theathletic.com/1038902/201...rams-can-be-the-next-big-thing-in-l-a-sports/

On and off the field, the Rams can be the ‘next big thing’ in L.A. sports

By Vincent Bonsignore Jun 20, 2019 12

If we’re being technical, the Rams transitioned from a St. Louis entity to a Los Angeles property on Jan. 12, 2016. That night, after a day full of tense, emotional meetings at a swanky Houston hotel, 32 NFL owners unanimously approved the Rams’ relocation back to Southern California.

After spending the previous 21 seasons in St. Louis, the Rams were returning home.

Technically speaking.

But there is a huge difference between legal recognition and emotional acceptance. One is decreed, the other develops organically over time. It doesn’t happen on demand, it has to be earned.

And that was always the challenge facing the Rams as they moved back to a market that, for the most part, wrote them off when they left in 1995.

Yes, a devoted group of hardcore fans stuck with them during their two decades in Missouri, then welcomed them back with open arms. In fact, the certainty of an existing fanbase played a significant role in the Rams getting approval to relocate. With the Los Angeles market so critical to the NFL’s big picture, and failure to command it not an option, the league needed assurance that a strong foundation was in place.

The loyal fanbase provided that.

But beyond that was a generation of Angelenos who grew up without a home team to root for. Some became fans of other teams while some embraced the NFL as fantasy football fans rather than devotees of a particular team. Many remained fans of the Raiders, who called Los Angeles home from 1982-94. Others were indifferent to the NFL altogether. And many grew so angry over all the hollow statements the NFL made over the years about wanting to return to L.A. — only to continually come up with reasons for not making the plunge — that they completely turned their back on the league.

For the Rams to truly succeed in L.A., they need to capture and cultivate the hearts and minds of fans, beyond the loyal hardcores who stuck with them. At first, many locals curiously sized them up like some long-lost family member who just popped back into their life, offering a big smile and a hearty hug.

Sure, you want to welcome them back with no questions asked. But after a 20-year disappearance, it’s a little awkward.

And if we’re keeping it real, the process of the Rams re-embedding themselves into the soul of greater Los Angeles is ongoing.

There have been prominent moments over the last three years — particularly the last 12 months — when the Rams left such an indelible mark as a living, breathing part of the Southern California landscape that it’s impossible to ignore the climb they’re making to the top of L.A. sports mountain.

It’s not necessarily that they’re going to shove aside the Lakers and Dodgers as kings of the city. But they certainly can take a seat alongside them.

In many ways, the Rams are poised to be L.A.’s next big thing.

On the field, they’ve grown into one of the most exciting teams in the NFL under energetic head coach Sean McVay. Their 24 wins over the last two years are the most in football. The 1,005 points they’ve scored is tops in the NFL. They’ve won two straight division titles and made a triumphant march to Super Bowl LIII last season.

The hardcore L.A. sports fan loves a winner. To capture the imagination of broader Los Angeles, you have to be compelling and entertaining. The Rams have been exactly that over the last two years.

The roster is brimming with young talent: Jared Goff, now in his fourth year, has emerged as one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Aaron Donald is the two-time defending NFL Defensive Player of the Year. When healthy, Todd Gurley is one of the most dominating offensive weapons in football.

L.A. is a star-driven market. The Rams are cultivating some of the biggest names in sports.

Los Angeles is taking notice.

According to metrics, Rams attendance increased by over 14 percent in 2018 — the largest growth in the NFL — landing them in the top 10 in overall attendance.

Their television ratings grew by 49 percent last year, the best in the NFL. Their average ratings were the highest of any of the four teams in New York or Los Angeles.

Rams games were the top-watched television show in Los Angeles in seven of 16 weeks last season. That’s more than their first two seasons in Los Angeles combined.

Their social-media growth on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter was among the top three in the NFL in 2018, and they were in the top five in engagement rate.

By all measures, the Rams are establishing themselves as a powerful presence in Los Angeles.


It has coincided with their impact in the community.

Rams players, cheerleaders and front-office staffers have volunteered more than 6,000 hours of community service, benefitting 140 schools and 45 non-profit groups through outreach programs. Their annual community improvement project has resulted in playgrounds being built at elementary schools in Watts, Inglewood, South Central, and East LA.

In greater Los Angeles, Rams staff members have provided more than 5,500 hours of community service and impacted 36 local non-profit groups and 55 schools.

Since arriving back in L.A., the Rams have introduced a variety of new community outreach programs such as “RISE with the Rams” to help build relationships between two Los Angeles area high school football teams that have a cross-section of races and socioeconomic backgrounds, and “Taste of the Rams,” which benefits the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank.

Meanwhile, the new home they’re building in Inglewood — the $4.9 billion, 298-acre stadium and entertainment district that owner Stan Kroenke sold the NFL on while making his pitch for relocation — is now 70 percent complete and is scheduled to open in the summer of 2020.

The privately-funded stadium already has secured Super Bowl LVI in 2022, the college football national championship game in 2023, and the Opening and Closing Ceremonies of the 2028 Summer Olympics.

The first ever indoor-outdoor stadium, it will be the centerpiece of a development that is 3.5 times the size of Disneyland, twice as big as Vatican City and will feature a 2.5-acre open-air plaza, a 6,000-seat performance venue, more than 1.5 million square feet of retail and office space, 2,500 residences, a hotel, and more than 20 acres of parks.

It will be quintessentially Los Angeles. Think LA Live on steroids.

Between the on-field product, the involvement and impact in the community and the bright new future awaiting them at their palatial new stadium, the Rams are rapidly making their presence felt. Few would have thought it possible three years ago, when the Rams returned home only to massively stub their toe during a 4-12 season that cost coach Jeff Fisher his job and left many in Los Angeles to ask: We waited 21 years for this?

Now they are poised to grab a prominent seat on the L.A. sports throne.

That possibility played out on a Monday night early last November, when the Rams opened their arms to a grieving region devastated by wildfires and knocked to its knees by a senseless act of violence. The Rams delivered a memorable performance that, for three hours, provided a sturdy shoulder on which L.A. could rest a weary head.

It was happenstance that put the Rams in position to offer refuge and diversion. In fact, they were supposed to host the Kansas City Chiefs in Mexico City on that Monday night. But five days before kickoff, when the field at Azteca Stadium was deemed too dangerous to host an NFL game, the Rams had to shift gears back to the Coliseum.

The frenzied group effort that ensued — the Rams worked closely with USC, which owns and operates the Coliseum, and L.A. business leaders and local law enforcement officials to map out a plan to host a Monday-night game on short notice — and the passionate response by fans who gobbled up more than 70,000 tickets almost overnight, offered a poignant glimpse into just how far the Rams have come since arriving back in L.A.

And how high they can potentially still soar.

It truly was, as their slogan said, LA Together.

The Rams distributed more than 3,000 tickets to first responders and people affected by the mass shooting in Thousand Oaks, which claimed the lives of 12 innocent victims, and the nearby fires. Andrew Whitworth, their towering left tackle, offered use of his luxury suite at the Coliseum for affected families and donated a full game check to help victims of the fires and shooting.

Then the Rams delivered an incredible performance in a wild 54-51 win over the Chiefs at a loud, rollicking Coliseum. After soaking it all in, it became crystal clear what the Rams already mean to Los Angeles and the boundless future ahead.

The mark of a good neighbor is being available and reliable in times of need. With Los Angeles reeling, the Rams stepped up in a big way. In the process, they helped lift an entire city back onto its feet.

A decade from now, we might look back at that night as the moment the Rams were officially welcomed back to Los Angeles. Not as a long-lost friend who awkwardly showed up at our doorsteps 20 years after walking out of our lives.

But as a family member.

And it’s left them poised to be L.A.’s next big thing.
 

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The price of my 3 Super Bowl tickets alone should have moved us into the top 10. :rant:

This guy and his grading system are both clown shows.
 

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I was hoping to see details about various measures, but all I saw was the fan equity one (how much did fans spend) which is frankly a pretty fucking stupid way to measure anything.

Some dipshit in Dallas burns his jersey every 5 minutes so he's constantly wasting money buying new ones vs some kid in Green Pay who's wearing his dad's old Bart Star jersey that he was gifted via his father doesn't mean that the Dallas fan is a better fan.

Additionally, I couldn't really find much on the social one, but that was an immediate red flag to me, the Rams have a bigger social media outreach and response rate, as well as post more, and are generally more active than the Chargers, which were the easiest comparison. The Chargers have a lot more facebook fans, but with the amount of people moving away from Facebook that number is likely misleading. Rams beat them in other social media platforms, and the response rate for the Rams posts are better by various social media measuring. Chances are this professor has never done any type of social media work for a company and therefore doesn't really have a grasp on things like SEO's and other aspects. Hence why he has the Rams last in social media and the chargers like 22nd or something (which isn't great, but better still) even though the reality of it (obvious to anyone who lives in Los Angeles) that the fan outreach is completely flipped.
 

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Rams players, cheerleaders and front-office staffers have volunteered more than 6,000 hours of community service, benefiting 140 schools and 45 non-profit groups through outreach programs. Their annual community improvement project has resulted in playgrounds being built at elementary schools in Watts, Inglewood, South Central, and East LA.

In greater Los Angeles, Rams staff members have provided more than 5,500 hours of community service and impacted 36 local non-profit groups and 55 schools.

Since arriving back in L.A., the Rams have introduced a variety of new community outreach programs such as “RISE with the Rams” to help build relationships between two Los Angeles area high school football teams that have a cross-section of races and socioeconomic backgrounds, and “Taste of the Rams,” which benefits the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank.

This has to help build the fan base. Glad to see they are helping the local community as they did in St Louis.


Meanwhile, the new home they’re building in Inglewood — the $4.9 billion, 298-acre stadium and entertainment district that owner Stan Kroenke sold the NFL on while making his pitch for relocation — is now 70 percent complete and is scheduled to open in the summer of 2020.

The privately-funded stadium already has secured Super Bowl LVI in 2022, the college football national championship game in 2023, and the Opening and Closing Ceremonies of the 2028 Summer Olympics.

Looking forward to the completion. So far it looks like a great place to watch a game. The entire complex will be a great destination point.

The best part of a fan base for me is they can create a big home field advantage. I don't think the Rams are going to be benefiting from that. The new home will be great but, it seems that the visiting team will have great support. High ticket prices and licensing fees going to bring unloading some tickets to visiting team fans. Hope I'm wrong.

I guess it's possible that the Rams becoming perennial winners could shift the local fans to keeping more tickets and other local fans buying them when available. At least the uptick in Rams fans engagement should help the players feel some extra emotion and motivation. As long as they can keep building the fan base anything is possible.
 
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1. How much money did fans spend for the team?
2. How good is their Social Media game?
3. How well does a fanbase travel/spend away from home?

These are fairly idiotic criteria, imo. So if there are literally thousands of good restaurants and bars nearby, the fanbase is dinged for not buying crappy hot dogs at the game?

No judgment for Social Media - but I'm not sure how that is a truly relevant standard for football fans, and of course, there are questions on how it's measured anyway.

Of course, the hardcore LA Rams fanbase had to travel for over 20 years to see the Rams. If they just want to focus on seeing them in LA, whatever. Add in that fans in many locations want to travel to see their team to get out of their home area once the cold weather and rain/snow hits, and that doesn't apply to LA, I'm not sure if this academic actually understands the need to properly vet the criteria he uses to not be inherently misleading. I mean, if you are a Bills fan, the idea of leaving Buffalo for an extended weekend to go to Los Angeles in November is highly appealing. If you are a Rams fan, the idea of going to Buffalo in late November is a non-starter.

In any case, as others have mentioned - the Rams are newly back to LA, and it takes a while to fully rebuild the fanbase, especially since their first season was horrible, and their current home stadium is inadequate. It'll come, especially as they keep winning. But the measures this "study" used are misleading at best.
 

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Frankly to say that the Rams fans are the worst is STUPID!!!! The NFL ignored LA for 2 decades. An entire generation grew up in the city with no NFL franchise. LA is a city of transplants from all 50 states. I'm a native of LA born and raised. My point being all those transplants brought with them their fan allegiance of the teams they have always loved. So how can you say LA fans are the worst when the team has been back only a couple of years??!! LA Rams fans stayed loyal all those years but get no credit for it? Now the team has returned and the city has totally embraced them.

You only have to look at how laughable the Chargers are. They only sell out because the fans of the opposing teams fill the tiny soccer stadium they play in. If not for them the actual Charger fans wouldn't even fill half the stadium. That team plays every game like it's a road game. When you look at how much they will charge for seats in Kroenke's Palace I have to wonder if they can continue to draw their tiny 12K fan base.

LA Rams draw about 35K-50K of their own fans, per game. That's only after being back 2 years! Those attendance figures will only go up. How anyone can accuse Ram fans as being among the worst is ludicrous.
 

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Geez, I travelled half way round the world to see the Rams last year. That's dedication!! :)
 

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Whatevs. The team is back after being gone for 20 yrs. Winning will build the fanbase in fickle/bandwagonny LA but it will take time. I have season seats and yes, it is frustrating walking along Figueroa hearing Eagles chants and seeing half the stadium in green but it’s getting better. I’ve been seeing more of our logo being worn and on cars than I ever have before. We’re gonna get there. Besides, there’s only one ranking that matters and that’s the one where were on top on the night of first Sunday in February.
 
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FTW/USA Today looks like the National Enquirer of sports rags. Southern California is loaded with transplants from all over the northern half of the country who are bound to carry their affections for their original favorite teams with them. I don't care and I'm sure the Rams players and coaches don't either.

I always think, yeah I don't really see this changing, much. LA is huge, and contains plenty of fans of every team that will get excited to go see their team play locally. But if the Dodgers and Lakers can do it, so can we, right?