Purely Hypothetical situation.

[RamsJunkie]

Ive seen a QB mocked to the bears in a lot of mock drafts lately. What if the Rams don't trade up and the bears snatch the last of the top 3 QBs in this draft (IMO there are only 3 worth a top 15 pick) and they put Cutler on the trade block. would you want the Rams to make that trade and if so what do you think it would take to get him? or what would you be willing to give up for him?

 

[StealYoGurley]

Im pretty sure Cutler's deal is terrible, so that's a huge roadblock to any potential deal.

We would be the third team for a Jay Cutler who has never won anything. Ill pass he's not worth the contract and he's not taking us over the hump.

 

[bwdenverram]

I'd take Cutler all day long compared to what we have. I'd give them one of our 2nd round picks or a 3rd for him. But no way a #1.

 

[JackDRams]

Based on current age, and contract status(high cap hit preventing extensions for Brock and Aaron) I probably throw a third at them and see if it works. I wouldn't go any better then that.

 

[Rambitious1]

Ive seen a QB mocked to the bears in a lot of mock drafts lately. What if the Rams don't trade up and the bears snatch the last of the top 3 QBs in this draft (IMO there are only 3 worth a top 15 pick) and they put Cutler on the trade block. would you want the Rams to make that trade and if so what do you think it would take to get him? or what would you be willing to give up for him?

Ummmmm..............

 

[Mojo Ram]

FWIW
Philip Rivers and Drew Brees are the only old QB's i really like among the teams in front of us on draft day. Manning? Cutler? Romo? Nah.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'd take Cutler but I would not offer more than a fourth because of the money. The Broncos might offer more. I bet Jay wouldn't like going back to Denver.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I'm not sure Paxton Lynch get's picked before 20 so I'm not too worried about it.

 

[Mackeyser]

With the dearth of QBs, I still think the Rams should be worried about Lynch falling to 15. I wouldn't bet on him being there.

Would anyone be surprised to see a QB overdrafted? Shock and surprise, right?

As for Cutler, no way it happens this year. If the Bears draft a QB, he sits this year as Cutler's cap hit is too big and they can trade him next year for a pretty small hit while the rook learns OJT and starts next year.

As for the point...

Tennessee: Young Up and Coming Starter
Cleveland: Desperate Need
San Diego: Aging Solid Starter
Dallas: Aging Solid Starter
Jacksonville: Young Up and Coming Starter
Baltimore: Solid Starter
Miami: Young Up and Coming Starter
Tampa Bay: Young Up and Coming Starter
NY Giants: Aging Solid Starter
Chicago: Aging Solid Starter
New Orleans: Aging Solid Starter
Philadelphia: Intermediate Starter
Oakland: Young Up and Coming Starter
Los Angeles: Backup

Looking at this list, Cleveland doesn't have a starting QB on the roster atm. Los Angeles is almost belligerently sticking with Case Keenum at least publicly. That said, any team without an Up and Coming Starter, Solid or Star QB is eligible for drafting a QB.

Notice something???

The teams that could seriously go QB early in the first round (because it's so damned expensive to trade up to get a QB) include Cleveland, San Diego, Dallas, Giants, Chicago, New Orleans, Philadelphia and Los Angeles.

That's EIGHT teams in the top FIFTEEN.

Now, due to not all teams seeing it that way and scarcity, it won't BE that way, but it illustrates that waiting for a project like Lynch to fall to 15... may be more than a fool's errand when he's being compared to Cam Newton. I dunno that I totally agree with that assessment, but it only takes a couple of teams to make the 1st round a 5 QB round and those 2nd round picks pretty meaningless for taking a QB if the Rams didn't do it with that 1st one or decide to trade down in an effort to get value.

Like when the Rams had the 2nd pick, it will be a seller's market. Not as much as when the Rams had it and there was a consensus #2 pick, but there's still no easy answers. I mean, it's entirely possible that BOTH Lynch and Cook are gone BEFORE #15 due to teams trading up to get ahead of the Rams. I can see the Broncos going big for Cook in the early teens if Lynch is gone to the 9ers.

Where does that leave the Rams? I dunno. I really, really don't.

But as for the OP, we can't get Cutler this year. Cap hit is too big, iirc. Expressly because of that, tho, Chicago may want to draft a QB which puts another player in play for a QB at the top of the draft...

Not good for us if the Rams are going for a QB.

Yet another reason why I think Fisher went and got hypnosis to convince himself that Keenum's the real deal...

 

[-X-]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HSigA7Ye0

 

[Ballhawk]

Makes you wonder how all of those teams with good QBs got ahead of us in the draft. Shouldn't they have been in the playoffs?

 

[Mojo Ram]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HSigA7Ye0

Popped that into the DVD player last week. Another one of those classics that wouldn't see the light of day in today's New World Moral code.

 

[dieterbrock]

I don't see where Chicago trades Cutler, but after 2016 he's entirely cut worthy. Could totally see them drafting a QB, let him sit a year then move on from Cutler after the season. Miami is another one to watch, they may or may not be sold on Tannehill and can opt out of his deal after the season as well
That said, if Rams go the route of keeping Keenum for 2016, draft a couple WR/TE playmakers and after the year Cutler is a FA? I'd gladly kick the tires on that

 

[rdw]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HSigA7Ye0

Shirley you can't be serious

 

[StealYoGurley]

Looking at this list, Cleveland doesn't have a starting QB on the roster atm. Los Angeles is almost belligerently sticking with Case Keenum at least publicly. That said, any team without an Up and Coming Starter, Solid or Star QB is eligible for drafting a QB.

Aging solid starter also means they want to build the best team possible around that guy while his window is still open. Ya getting a QB helps for the future but doing that in the first instead of getting a guy that will start and actually help that aging QB get wins now might not be the best investment in many situations. Giants, Chargers, Saints, Eagles, Bears all have huge holes on their rosters and alot invested in the QB position. Giants and Saints have young developmental backups they drafted in the 3rd round in Nasib and Greyson. Eagles have an expensive starter and the most expensive backup QB in the league by a longshot. Eagles, Bears, and Chargers could use a developmental guy, but with a ton of needs and right now impact guys available they will most likely get their developmental guy on day 2 like the Saints and Giants did.

Now, due to not all teams seeing it that way and scarcity, it won't BE that way, but it illustrates that waiting for a project like Lynch to fall to 15... may be more than a fool's errand when he's being compared to Cam Newton. I dunno that I totally agree with that assessment, but it only takes a couple of teams to make the 1st round a 5 QB round and those 2nd round picks pretty meaningless for taking a QB if the Rams didn't do it with that 1st one or decide to trade down in an effort to get value.

Like when the Rams had the 2nd pick, it will be a seller's market. Not as much as when the Rams had it and there was a consensus #2 pick, but there's still no easy answers. I mean, it's entirely possible that BOTH Lynch and Cook are gone BEFORE #15 due to teams trading up to get ahead of the Rams. I can see the Broncos going big for Cook in the early teens if Lynch is gone to the 9ers.

No way I see a 5 QB first round. We have only exceeded more than 3 QBs in round one twice in the past 10 years. This QB class isn't talented enough for 5 in the first 15 let alone the first round. IMO The biggest QB obstacles ahead of us barring a trade up are Cleveland, Dallas, and San Fran. Romo is a good starter and they need to plan for future, but with Bosa or Ramsey staring at them at 4, it might be more prudent to get that long term guy later.

I have't seen many Lynch Cam comparison's. Cam way more athletic and built like a tank whereas Lynch is very lanky. Cam is an anomaly a guy that big and athletic has never played QB in this league. That is why he went number 1 despite limited playing experience in an unconventional college offense.

IMO teams are weary about toolsy guys and have been more patient in the QB market. Thats why you see guys like Hundley and Petty fall. I don't think Lynch will go as low as those guys but I also don't think he is transcendent talent teams will be clamoring over. In the drafts where 3 or more QBs were taken in round 1 you typically only see one successful guy. 2005 Rodgers and Smith (I guess) were successful while Jason Campbell was a bust. 2006 Leinart, Young, and Cutler could all be considered busts. 2009 Freeman and Locker, were busts while Stafford hit. 2011 Newton is a hit Locker and Ponder are busts. 2012 Luck hit, juries out on Tanehill, but Weeden and RGIII are busts. 2014 to early to tell for those 3 even though Manziel trending bust big time. In these 3+ QB first rounds there is a much higher bust rate round 1 and the toolsy prospects like Locker, Freeman, Young, Campbell, Ponder, RGIII and Tanehill (trending that way) whereas you see fewer refined guys who become busts like Leinart. Something to really think about when taking Lynch as third QB in round one.

 

[DaveFan'51]

Thanks, but no thanks!! Cutler is too moody, for my taste!!

 

[Angry Ram]

Tennessee: Young Up and Coming Starter
Cleveland: Desperate Need
San Diego: Aging Solid Starter
Dallas: Aging Solid Starter
Jacksonville: Young Up and Coming Starter
Baltimore: Solid Starter
Miami: Young Up and Coming Starter
Tampa Bay: Young Up and Coming Starter
NY Giants: Aging Solid Starter
Chicago: Aging Solid Starter
New Orleans: Aging Solid Starter
Philadelphia: Intermediate Starter
Oakland: Young Up and Coming Starter
Los Angeles: Backup

That said, any team without an Up and Coming Starter, Solid or Star QB is eligible for drafting a QB.

Titans- no
Browns- yes
Chargers- no (PR signed a contract extension)
Cowboys- maybe (but they need defenders more, and TR isn't bad at all)
Jaguars- no
Ravens- no
Dolphins- no
Bucs- no
Giants- no (EM signed contract extension before the start of last season)
Bears- no
Saints- no
Eagles- no
Raiders- no
LA- yes

Just b/c they are "eligible" doesn't mean they'll take one. Where's SF here, that's the team besides the Browns that will most likely draft one early. The 8 teams you mentioned would probably be taking a QB in the later rounds, if at all.

Now, due to not all teams seeing it that way and scarcity, it won't BE that way, but it illustrates that waiting for a project like Lynch to fall to 15...

They won't see it b/c they don't need a QB and their starting QBs have starting QB contracts.

BOTH Lynch and Cook are gone BEFORE #15 due to teams trading up to get ahead of the Rams.

If that's what Les and Jeff Fisher want (1st round QB), then this is the bigger reason to trade up rather than teams in front taking one. Bills, Jets (maybe) being the best options. I doubt that teams like Broncos or Cardinals would trade all the way up. It's not really their style.

I'm not really stressed about it as many others are.

 

[Corbin]

Why the hell are you guys not putting in the pos Whiners on those first 15 pick selections? It's very plausible those shits could draft / trade up and steal our QB.