Perhaps the real Todd Gurley has finally arrived

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Perhaps the real Todd Gurley has finally arrived
By Alden Gonzalez

[www.espn.com]


TAMPA, Fla. -- Todd Gurley took his right hand and slammed it against the turf at Raymond James Stadium.

It was second-and-11, early in the second half of the Los Angeles Rams' 37-32 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday, and Gurley still couldn't find any holes through which to run free. The star running back tried cutting his way to the outside, but was stuffed for no gain by the Bucs' safety -- yes, their safety -- Bradley McDougald. By then, Gurley had managed a mere 34 yards on the ground, putting his average for the season at 2.5 yards per carry.

Then, finally, it happened: Todd Gurley became Todd Gurley again.


Todd Gurley finally seemed to break through Sunday, gaining 38 yards on six carries on the drive that put the Rams ahead.
Six minutes later, the Rams had the ball and Gurley led them on an eight-play, 69-yard drive that gave them a 24-20 lead. He ran for 38 yards on six carries, capping it with a one-yard score. He gained nine yards twice. And he broke off a brilliant 16-yard run in which he quickly found a hole to his right, exploded to the second level, got tripped up twice, spun around and managed to stay on his feet for an extra seven yards.

"That’s what he needs," Rams left tackle Rodger Saffold said, "but it’s just like last year. He didn’t even get to play the first three games, and then he came out smoking. Everything comes together when you start to see it. Then you start to believe in it, then it becomes second nature. That’s when it becomes your mentality."

That's the Rams' hope for Gurley, who finished with 27 rushes for 85 yards and two touchdowns. He averaged 3.15 yards per carry, an improvement over Week 1 (2.77 yards) and Week 2 (2.68) but still not quite good enough.

"He's not there yet," Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. "Not because of Todd Gurley personally, but we don't have him there offensively to where we want to get to."

That's partly because of an offensive line that isn't opening up enough holes and partly because of a passing game that doesn't pose enough of a vertical threat, and it's hard to identify where one issue ends and the other begins.

The Rams, at least, have shown progress offensively.

They've gone from gaining 185 yards from scrimmage in Week 1 to 283 in Week 2 and 320 in Week 3. On Sunday, they went 6-for-13 on third down. And on several occasions, Case Keenum -- 14-of-26 for 190 yards, two touchdowns and an interception that was returned for a touchdown -- used play action with Gurley to set up a deep pass play.

Gurley credited the offensive line and said there were "a lot of good signs" that the running game was moving in the proper direction, but that he would check the film to make sure.

"I tried to be patient," Gurley said. "Obviously they’re going to try to stop the run, and we’re going to keep running, so you just have to go out there every play and just try to get some yards."
 

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I'm to the point where I think the Rams over-prepared the pass blocking in camp, or under-prepared the run blocking, however you want to put it. Teams have a hard time nowadays with the lack of physical practices that prepare them to run and stop the run. The run blocking has gotten better week to week and looks much better now than in week one.

Gurley's Mr. Automatic. When the hole's there he sees it and blows through it. Rams just gotta quit letting a defender leak through on every damn run play to slow him.

So yeah, I agree the run game is close right now. Hopefully Arizona will be the team that feels the pain of it, too.
 

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I made my own thread about this but the more the Rams use a lead blocker the better. The run game is a lot better when a Fullback is running ahead of Todd. A FB can get a hat on any defender that comes through the line, which happens a lot with our O-line facing stacked boxes.
 

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It is still a numbers game. They bring more bodies than we keep in to block and you see the results. The fact that we have been more vertical the last 2 weeks has and should continue to help get more favorable matchups along the OL. Need Boras to keep spreading the field and TG should be fine. We are playing a pissed off defense this week and better be ready.
 

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So yeah, I agree the run game is close right now. Hopefully Arizona will be the team that feels the pain of it, too.
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Wasn't the story of week one how the Rams were so predictable because they would have Gurley follow Harkey to the hole, and the Whiners were sending their linebackers there to greet him?
 

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To put any run issues on Gurley is unfair.

Idiotic would be another fitting word.

An archaic offense which refuses to throw vertical was seeing 9 man stacked boxes until it finally threw vertical and all a sudden some holes open up.

It's not rocket science folks.

Gurley cannot beat a 9 man front no matter how good he is.

And let me add this, if you listen to Gurley's words he is quitely getting frustrated with this Stone Age offensive approach.
 

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hopefully it's the same script as last year... Gurley comes back week 4 against Arizona, runs all over them for 170 yards, and we win. 3-1 baby LETS GOOOOO
 

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All of this "Case needs to throw vertical" stuff is purely speculative, IMO. I've already posted splits that shows he throws to the middle and deep zones just about as regularly as any other QB in the league when you calculate percentages. But since this is the theory everyone is going with now, that Case doesn't throw deep, and that's why Gurley can't get going, then the team with the most rushing yards (the Raiders) should have a QB who regularly throws a ton of deep stuff, and not so much in the 0-10 yard range. RIght? Wrong. And I'm not even using the Tampa game for this example. This is the first two games for both QBs. And since one QB is asked to throw a lot more than the other, we'll go ahead and use averages.

Keenum (64 attempts): 25% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 50% completion percentage in that range for 201 yards.

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Derek Carr (82 attempts): 28% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 45.6% completion percentage in that range for 253 yards..

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Once ESPNevergetsaroundtoupdatingtheirstats includes the 3rd game, these splits are gonna be a helluva lot closer to each other. But you also have to consider the teams they played. The Rams played two defenses (9ers, Seahawks) with very good front 7's, and then they kicked Tampa's ass. The Raiders have played teams with a combined record of 3-6.
 

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I agree with you X but fear factor has more to do with it IMO. Carr if feared more because of his skills than Keenum is and that what makes the difference IMOIMO
 

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All of this "Case needs to throw vertical" stuff is purely speculative, IMO. I've already posted splits that shows he throws to the middle and deep zones just about as regularly as any other QB in the league when you calculate percentages. But since this is the theory everyone is going with now, that Case doesn't throw deep, and that's why Gurley can't get going, then the team with the most rushing yards (the Raiders) should have a QB who regularly throws a ton of deep stuff, and not so much in the 0-10 yard range. RIght? Wrong. And I'm not even using the Tampa game for this example. This is the first two games for both QBs. And since one QB is asked to throw a lot more than the other, we'll go ahead and use averages.

Keenum (64 attempts): 25% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 50% completion percentage in that range for 201 yards.

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Derek Carr (82 attempts): 28% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 45.6% completion percentage in that range for 253 yards..

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Once ESPNevergetsaroundtoupdatingtheirstats includes the 3rd game, these splits are gonna be a helluva lot closer to each other. But you also have to consider the teams they played. The Rams played two defenses (9ers, Seahawks) with very good front 7's, and then they kicked Tampa's ass. The Raiders have played teams with a combined record of 3-6.

Thanks for adding another narrative besides the "dump on Fisher, Stone Age offense, Keenum Sucks" one that is prevalent among posters.

Nice job!
 

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Thomas Rawls, Ameer Abdullah, Lamar Miller, TJ Yeldon, Jeremy Langford ring a bell as being overhyped so far? Nope just focus on the Rams' Gurley. :jerkoff:
 

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All of this "Case needs to throw vertical" stuff is purely speculative, IMO. I've already posted splits that shows he throws to the middle and deep zones just about as regularly as any other QB in the league when you calculate percentages. But since this is the theory everyone is going with now, that Case doesn't throw deep, and that's why Gurley can't get going, then the team with the most rushing yards (the Raiders) should have a QB who regularly throws a ton of deep stuff, and not so much in the 0-10 yard range. RIght? Wrong. And I'm not even using the Tampa game for this example. This is the first two games for both QBs. And since one QB is asked to throw a lot more than the other, we'll go ahead and use averages.

Keenum (64 attempts): 25% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 50% completion percentage in that range for 201 yards.

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Derek Carr (82 attempts): 28% of his attempts are from 11-40 yards. 45.6% completion percentage in that range for 253 yards..

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Once ESPNevergetsaroundtoupdatingtheirstats includes the 3rd game, these splits are gonna be a helluva lot closer to each other. But you also have to consider the teams they played. The Rams played two defenses (9ers, Seahawks) with very good front 7's, and then they kicked Tampa's ass. The Raiders have played teams with a combined record of 3-6.

Ah, but what was it after 1 game when we all lost our shit? I'm pretty sure we all noted case threw the ball further down the field against the seagulls. And obviously more so against the bucs. Funnily enough Gurley's yards increased every game.

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Ah, but what was it after 1 game when we all lost our crap? I'm pretty sure we all noted case threw the ball further down the field against the seagulls. And obviously more so against the bucs. Funnily enough Gurley's yards increased every game.

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Perhaps, but I (and @Memphis Ram) also showed how Gurley can get a ton of yards when the QB does nothing. I mean, it's a nice theory and all, that Keenum is holding Gurley back, but history doesn't really bear that out. Teams that allege that they can run the ball no matter what, usually run the ball no matter what. Seahawks, for example. Always at the top of the league in rushing yards and rushing attempts, and always at the bottom of the league in passing yards and pass attempts. Teams don't fear Wilson's arm. They crowd the box because they fear his legs AND their RB's. Keenum can't run like that, obviously, but the same principle applies. To get them out of the box, the line has to hold their blocks, the OC has to scheme receivers open, the receivers have to *get* open, and then Keenum has to make a play. It will get better when Goff gets in there, but don't expect a quick turn-around on how defenses play the Rams. Gurley will remain their focus.
 

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I thought Gurley was drafted BECAUSE of his talent as a running back, not a complimentary RB to a QB, the only difference this year, so far, is that he hasn't reeled off those big runs yet - it's only a matter of time though - that 16 yarder (was it 16?) where he just fell short, against TB was an amazing run.

And I know there's a lot of knocking on Keenum but he threw 2 40+yard TDs against the Buccs. If defences don't fear him with the long ball, well maybe that's in our favour?!? I think Boras is getting more creative with his play calling which is helping too.
 

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What @-X- said. I would like to see them use TA in the backfield more this year like they did last year. Even if just as a decoy. That is something else that benefits TG as he usually takes a LB with him on those fake end arounds and such. TA can be used to help "un-stack" that box is what I'z sayin. And keep throwin it DEEP!!!!
 

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Perhaps, but I (and @Memphis Ram) also showed how Gurley can get a ton of yards when the QB does nothing. I mean, it's a nice theory and all, that Keenum is holding Gurley back, but history doesn't really bear that out. Teams that allege that they can run the ball no matter what, usually run the ball no matter what. Seahawks, for example. Always at the top of the league in rushing yards and rushing attempts, and always at the bottom of the league in passing yards and pass attempts. Teams don't fear Wilson's arm. They crowd the box because they fear his legs AND their RB's. Keenum can't run like that, obviously, but the same principle applies. To get them out of the box, the line has to hold their blocks, the OC has to scheme receivers open, the receivers have to *get* open, and then Keenum has to make a play. It will get better when Goff gets in there, but don't expect a quick turn-around on how defenses play the Rams. Gurley will remain their focus.

Fair points but in week 1 case was abominable and that had a disastrous affect on the running game. His inability to make the whiners pay for having 9 in the box meant that they were in the backfield the whole game. Every ounce of talent in Gurley's body was needed for him to make positive yardage almost every time he touched the ball.

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lets also remember that TGII didnt play in too many series during the preseason. He may just be getting up to game speed after 2 games ( we're just going to wipe our memories of week 1)
 

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Funnily enough Gurley's yards increased every game.
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I think Gurley is going to bust loose against the Cards and that game in the desert is going to be a nail biter.

I REALLY hope we get Gaines back this week, and we can get pressure on Palmer.

As nice as it is to shut down someone's run game, we have to get better about shutting down opponents drives. The third down conversions are killing us. Teams are passing on us too easily.

We also need to start getting to the quarterback more.
 

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I'm to the point where I think the Rams over-prepared the pass blocking in camp, or under-prepared the run blocking, however you want to put it. Teams have a hard time nowadays with the lack of physical practices that prepare them to run and stop the run. The run blocking has gotten better week to week and looks much better now than in week one.

Gurley's Mr. Automatic. When the hole's there he sees it and blows through it. Rams just gotta quit letting a defender leak through on every damn run play to slow him.

So yeah, I agree the run game is close right now. Hopefully Arizona will be the team that feels the pain of it, too.

He could probably do with a bit of work in pre-season also. No coincidence that it takes 3 or 4 games to get the game speed right and get with the feel and flow of it? There are 4 pre-season games of which a starter will probably play a quarter or two of three. Todd played 4 downs I think.