Nick Wagoner Filters Through the Rams Draft Scenarios

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Nick Wagoner joined Kevin Wheeler for a couple of segments to go through the different scenarios from trading down to drafting Marcus Mariota, they discussed Todd Gurley, the offensive line, the Wide Receivers, and even more help along the d-line.

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Rams drafting a quarterback is no sure thing
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17993/rams-drafting-a-quarterback-is-no-sure-thing

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- Their nationwide quarterback barnstorming tour now complete, St. Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead are all set to take a signal-caller in this week's NFL draft. Right?

"Well, there’s a possibility to take a quarterback or not take a quarterback," Fisher said. "It really depends on how things unfold. Aside from the top two, which I think everyone assumes will be gone, there are some players in this draft that can come in and help you. We’re very excited about what we’ve seen here the last week and a half with Nick [Foles] and what he’s done in the offseason program. I think we’re better at the position. We’re healthy right now and there’s some good things ahead as far as that’s concerned. It doesn’t mean to say there’s not a guy at a certain point that we like that we can pass up.”

At March's owners meetings, Fisher indicated that it was possible the Rams would take a quarterback this year but he still left plenty of wiggle room. But the speculation that the Rams were strong in the quarterback market went up a notch when Fisher, Snead and some of their staff set out to see the draft's top quarterbacks in person.

It was a tour of the country that included stops at Oregon to see Marcus Mariota, Oregon State for Sean Mannion, UCLA for Brett Hundley, Baylor for Bryce Petty, Florida State for Jameis Winston and Colorado State for Garrett Grayson.

At this point, there's little to no chance that Winston or Mariota will be available when the Rams pick at No. 10, though it's believed that Mariota is one of the top -- if not the top -- players on the Rams' board. A trade up for Mariota can't be entirely ruled out though it's unlikely the Rams would pay the freight to move up to No. 2 to secure him.

If Mariota managed to slip a few spots beyond that, the Rams could be in play. But the more likely scenario is that both quarterbacks will be long gone before the Rams make their pick.

“Number one, it’s due diligence," Snead said. "There’s over 8,000 pages of noise out there. But, when you run some mock draft scenarios and the quarterbacks are falling to you, you don’t want that to occur and you didn’t prepare for it. Obviously, if you did the percentages, it’s probably not occurring. But if you want to count it as doing your due diligence, that’s what it is.”

If the Rams do decide to address quarterback, it's a better bet that it happens on Day

2. Petty, Grayson and Mannion, perhaps in that order, could be possible options.

Petty brings perhaps the best arm and production of the trio but also comes with the biggest learning curve after never even spitting out a play in a huddle until January's Senior Bowl. Mannion looks the part but doesn't have the consistent production, and Grayson could be considered a happy medium coming from a more NFL-style offense but more average physical tools.

Having seen all three up close, Fisher said the Rams had the chance to get to know them a little deeper.

"The perception is, you fly into town, you work the player out and you leave, and that’s not necessarily the case," Fisher said. "We spend quality time with the player in the classroom. We get him on the board. It’s an extensive interview. We actually spend at least the same amount of time in the classroom as we do on the field. It’s extremely valuable.”

As valuable as it might be, it also means the Rams had a chance to see the warts of each potential pick. Winston and Mariota are widely regarded as the only two franchise quarterbacks in the draft. That doesn't mean that one taken after them won't succeed, just that the process of finding that one is more difficult.

For the Rams, the need for a possible long-term quarterback remains but they believe that Nick Foles could emerge as that guy and with needs at other positions, it doesn't make sense to shoehorn a quarterback into this year's draft simply for the sake of doing it.

For example, would a long-term project like Petty make more sense than a possible Day 1 starter like Duke guard Laken Tomlinson? Those are the kinds of questions the Rams will have to answer over the next three days and those answers might ultimately lead to the conclusion that the team once again puts drafting a quarterback on the back burner.
 

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Five draft scenarios for Rams at No. 10
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18003/five-draft-scenarios-for-rams-at-no-10

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- It's finally here. The 2015 NFL draft has finally arrived and the speculation can finally come to an end and we can finally get some answers on what these teams have been planning for months.

Well, the speculation hasn't technically ended because we're about to do a little more.

As always, it's been awfully difficult to sift through the smoke in this pre-draft process but these are the five things I believe the Rams will consider for the 10th pick, put in order of how I think the team will prioritize them and how realistic they are.

1. Hope that a team falls in love with a prospect at 10 and is willing to give up a Day 2 pick or more to move up.

The sense I get from talking to scouts and personnel types is that the No. 10 pick in this draft just isn't desirable spot. There seems to be a relative consensus that the top seven players in the draft (Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston, Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota, USC defensive lineman Leonard Williams, Florida defensive end Dante Fowler Jr., Alabama receiver Amari Cooper, West Virginia receiver Kevin White and Iowa offensive lineman Brandon Scherff) will go before the 10th pick. In what order they come off and whether they are the first seven taken are up in the air but barring one of those guys slipping, the Rams would be staring at a situation without an obvious answer for the pick.

Which means that they'd probably be more than happy to move down in a trade and pick up an extra pick on Day 2. That, of course, begs the question of whether the Rams would be able to find a dance partner for a trade if they themselves don't see the value at 10 with the available players. On the other hand, teams value players differently and it's entirely possible a team might want the top cornerback in the draft with a player like Michigan State's Trae Waynes and need to get in front of Minnesota to do it. Louisville receiver DeVante Parker could also be a logical target for a team like Miami to move up a few spots to land.

Making this the preferred scenario is also made easier by the fact that coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead love wheeling and dealing in the first round. They made two such deals in 2012 and two more in 2013. In an ideal world, the Rams could move back a few spots, get a second- or third-round pick and then land the best available offensive lineman or even Georgia running back Todd Gurley.

2. Hope that one of the seven top players in the draft falls in their lap.

Arguments can certainly be made that players like Clemson's Vic Beasley, Kentucky's Bud Dupree (or somebody else) belong in the top group. Some teams will definitely see it that way. But the seven-player group mentioned above seems to have the largest contingent of supporters around the league.

It seems all but a lock that Winston, Mariota, Cooper, Williams and Fowler will go at some point before the Rams draft. Scherff and White are likely to go, too, but those are probably the two most realistic names that could fall in the Rams' lap. There's no guarantee the Rams would take a receiver at 10 but if White (and especially Cooper) slipped, the value would probably be too good to pass up. In fact, if any of those seven players slip to 10, that player would probably hold too much value for the Rams to ignore.

3. Draft Stanford tackle Andrus Peat or Miami offensive tackle Ereck Flowers.

Assuming those seven players are off the board and the Rams are unable to find a trade partner, chances are they'll zero in on the best available offensive linemen. In this case, all signs point to those two players being Peat and Flowers. Both took pre-draft visits to Rams Park and, despite their "projected" draft position in media mocks, both players are more highly-valued by teams.

That's not to say that Peat or Flowers is a finished product. In fact, both would be picks made with upside in mind. Peat is probably more ready to step in than Flowers, but Flowers has the nasty disposition the Rams seem to prefer. It'd be a tough call if both were on the board, but Flowers might have the slight edge at this point. Neither player would be a surprise choice, though.

4. Draft a wild card from a position of lesser need such as Louisville receiver DeVante Parker, Gurley or Beasley.

You can never rule out the possibility of the Rams throwing a curveball. And though they like both Peat and Flowers, there's always a chance that a player like Parker, Beasley or Gurley could be rated higher than either offensive tackle. If that's the case, maybe the Rams would eschew the more pressing need to add the more highly-rated player. Gurley is undoubtedly talented enough to be the 10th pick in the draft but comes with serious injury issues. Parker and Beasley are also talented enough to go 10th but maybe not so talented that their value would overpower the Rams' more pressing needs at other positions. Still, the idea of going with one of these players can't be entirely ruled out.

5. Trade up for Mariota, Cooper (or someone else).

Is it a long shot that the Rams move up for a quarterback or any other player in the draft? Probably. In Mariota's case, they'd probably have to get up to the second pick in the draft and the Rams simply don't have the capital or inclination to make such a move. If, somehow, Mariota slipped into the Washington range at No. 5 or further down, they'd probably have to give it a much longer look. Cooper is also believed to be very high on the Rams board and if he slipped a little, could also be a target. As for moving up for another player, it's possible they could make a small move, say a spot or two, to ensure they get their guy but that seems fairly unlikely.
 

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