New: Latest on Kroenke, Rams and NFL in STL

[RamFan503]

I don't want Kroenke to sell I've posted that many times I like having an owner with money, but if it did happen I pray for an owner that wants to win football games, but again, JMHO.

There with you Den. I like having an owner that has money and also will part with it to pay personnel and spend the cap. Khan is right behind him in worth yet he went $21 million under the cap. WTF is that?

If Peacock does figure out a way to put an ownership group together to buy the Rams, we all better hope that group has the ability to pony up and the desire to build something special.

 

[RamBill]

Super Agent Leigh Steinberg: Kroneke’s obscurity is “bad”. He talks about the LA Situation with Anthony Stalter on the Turn (101ESPN).

Listen to Steinberg Talk LA Situation

 

[blue4]

Yeah - I'm not trying to make too big of a deal out of it and you are probably right.


It seems that Spanos needs to muzzle his attorney more than anything. But yeah - fine line between not enough and too much.

I'm sorry, did someone on this thread say I could be right? What sort of weird alternate universe is this?

Seriously, Spanos attorney is a hitch. That's a guy people like to punch in the face.

 

[Sum1]

"I don't know if Stan is the long term owner of the team." I'm not the only one who connected that statement with the rumors that Peacock is putting together an ownership group to try to buy the team. So I don't think I am. I'm sure Peacock is aware of the rumors - true or not. He should also be mindful of making those kinds of comments. Not a big deal unless Stan gets the impression he is trying to force a sale.

I heard the statement and I can tell you that you are taking it way out of context. Later Peacock was asked about potential local owners and he said he would speculate there are people locally that would be interested in buying the team but he hasn't had any discussions about such a thing.

Nonissue.

 

[CodeMonkey]

Nice analogy:

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I really honestly don't think he cares. It's like caring what the insect thinks when you debate whether to step on it or not.
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[BuiltRamTough]

The roller coaster keeps going...

 

[bluecoconuts]

I don't want Kroenke to sell I've posted that many times I like having an owner with money, but if it did happen I pray for an owner that wants to win football games, but again, JMHO.

Agreed, I think that Kroenke does want to win. I just worry that talk like that makes him pissed. I don't think he cares what we say, but I know I wouldn't want people talking about forcing my team away from me if I was an owner. I'd be thinking "who the fuck are you to make that sort of offhanded threat?" Given how private he is I doubt we'll really hear what he thinks either way though.

 

[RamBill]

Dave Peacock has been the point man of Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon’s St. Louis stadium task force for the past several months, and continues to push the project forward despite Rams owner Stan Kroenke’s apparent desire to relocate the team to Los Angeles.

Peacock joined The Hollywood Casino Press Box on Tuesday to discuss the project’s progress and the future of the NFL in St. Louis.

Listen to Peacock Interview

 

[RamBill]

NFL gets updates on L.A. stadium plans
Posted on March 3, 2015 by Vincent Bonsignore

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/03/03/nfl-gets-updates-on-l-a-stadium-plans/


The NFL gathered the last few days in Florida to conduct committee meetings, and as you can expect Los Angeles was a particular subject of interest.

Two NFL sources confirmed to the Los Angeles News Group that the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders jointly met with the league’s owner’s committee overseeing Los Angeles relocation, updating the committee on their shared Carson stadium project. In addition, the St. Louis Rams also updated the committee on the Inglewood stadium project.

According to one source with knowledge of the meetings, the committee was impressed with the progress the Chargers and Raiders have made thus far on their Carson plan. Although it stands a few steps behind the Inglewood project, the Chargers and Raiders anticipate drawing even with Inglewood by late May, early June, when they expect the Carson City Council to approve the proposal.

If so, the NFL will mull two approved stadium proposals in which three teams are officially attached.

That doesn’t mean three teams will be coming to Los Angeles, just that the NFL – and St. Louis, Oakland and San Diego – will have serious decisions to make in the coming months.

Not the least of which is whether all three cities can – or even want to – come up with stadium plans to keep their teams in their local markets.

While all three are fighting uphill battles to get stadium plans financed and approved, it seems St. Louis is making significant progress.

In a recent Q and A with INSIDESTL.COM, Dave Peacock, who co-chairs the task force in charge with putting a stadium plan together, expressed optimism with how things are coming together and said he is pleased with the dialogue being developed with the Rams recently.

The Rams have not spoken publicly about their true feelings, so we can only guess whether they have a preferred end-game in mind: Do they truly wish to be in Los Angeles or are they simply using Inglewood as leverage to get the best possible stadium deal in St. Louis?

In any event, based on the progress being made they could soon face a decision in which we finally find out what they are up to.

 

[Ken]

As others have mentioned, if Bowlen's (the Bronco's owner with alzheimers) people can't get their succession to work legally / financially, then the NFL may put pressure, or force, a sell. There's a good chance Kroenke may want to own the Broncos (to go along with his other Denver teams and solve his cross-ownership issue) more than the Rams. So if it were to happen Kroenke may be looking to sell the Rams to a local ownership group and buy the Broncos. This could be one of the likelier outcomes if current Denver ownership can't solve their problems.

 

[iced]

As others have mentioned, if Bowlen's (the Bronco's owner with alzheimers) people can't get their succession to work legally / financially, then the NFL may put pressure, or force, a sell. There's a good chance Kroenke may want to own the Broncos (to go along with his other Denver teams and solve his cross-ownership issue) more than the Rams. So if it were to happen Kroenke may be looking to sell the Rams to a local ownership group and buy the Broncos. This could be one of the likelier outcomes if current Denver ownership can't solve their problems.

I agree - I think this is very possible and also helps with his cross ownership issues

 

[Goose]

Kroenke's LA stadium plan again comes under fire
By Jim Thomas

Less than a week after a report warned that Stan Kroenke's proposed stadium in Inglewood, Calif., would be vulnerable to terrorists due to its proximity to Los Angeles International Airport, another report was made public Tuesday regarding overall safety concerns of having the stadium built so close to flight paths into LAX.

The reports have one thing in common: they were both commissioned by AEG, the sports and entertainment firm trying to get an NFL stadium built in downtown Los Angeles, and thus a rival of the Inglewood plan put together by Rams owner Kroenke.

Unlike the earlier terrorism report which was authored by Tom Ridge, the former Secretary of Homeland Security, the latest report was done by Mark Rosenker, former chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board.


According to the Rosenker report, approaching aircraft could be as little as 300 feet above the Inglewood stadium, potentially dangerously close for the safety of the plane as well as fans in the stadium on game day.

Two east-west runaways are about 2½ miles from the proposed stadium site, both on flight paths that would head over the stadium or near the stadium.

As many as 68 flights per hour could fly over the stadium at LAX, one of the nation's busiest airports. Safety concerns aside, Rosenker said the noise of distractions from a plane flying over the Inglewood site every 2 minutes could greatly diminish fan enjoyment of the game.

In addition, having pregame flyovers, or a blimp above the stadium during the game would be difficult given the flight paths and congestion at LAX.

"So you're in the area where you're going be in the last phase of flight before you're gonna be touching down," Rosenker said.

"To put an NFL stadium which will house as many as 80,000 people in a concentrated area — there are better places, much better places to put a stadium than in the flight path of a major airport."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_2be4e837-d631-5d94-9fc4-82e1b9626f8d.html

 

[BuiltRamTough]

Kroenke's LA stadium plan again comes under fire
By Jim Thomas

Less than a week after a report warned that Stan Kroenke's proposed stadium in Inglewood, Calif., would be vulnerable to terrorists due to its proximity to Los Angeles International Airport, another report was made public Tuesday regarding overall safety concerns of having the stadium built so close to flight paths into LAX.

The reports have one thing in common: they were both commissioned by AEG, the sports and entertainment firm trying to get an NFL stadium built in downtown Los Angeles, and thus a rival of the Inglewood plan put together by Rams owner Kroenke.

Unlike the earlier terrorism report which was authored by Tom Ridge, the former Secretary of Homeland Security, the latest report was done by Mark Rosenker, former chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board.


According to the Rosenker report, approaching aircraft could be as little as 300 feet above the Inglewood stadium, potentially dangerously close for the safety of the plane as well as fans in the stadium on game day.

Two east-west runaways are about 2½ miles from the proposed stadium site, both on flight paths that would head over the stadium or near the stadium.

As many as 68 flights per hour could fly over the stadium at LAX, one of the nation's busiest airports. Safety concerns aside, Rosenker said the noise of distractions from a plane flying over the Inglewood site every 2 minutes could greatly diminish fan enjoyment of the game.

In addition, having pregame flyovers, or a blimp above the stadium during the game would be difficult given the flight paths and congestion at LAX.

"So you're in the area where you're going be in the last phase of flight before you're gonna be touching down," Rosenker said.

"To put an NFL stadium which will house as many as 80,000 people in a concentrated area — there are better places, much better places to put a stadium than in the flight path of a major airport."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_2be4e837-d631-5d94-9fc4-82e1b9626f8d.html

I hope the terrorists don't read this article.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Kroenke's LA stadium plan again comes under fire
By Jim Thomas

Less than a week after a report warned that Stan Kroenke's proposed stadium in Inglewood, Calif., would be vulnerable to terrorists due to its proximity to Los Angeles International Airport, another report was made public Tuesday regarding overall safety concerns of having the stadium built so close to flight paths into LAX.

The reports have one thing in common: they were both commissioned by AEG, the sports and entertainment firm trying to get an NFL stadium built in downtown Los Angeles, and thus a rival of the Inglewood plan put together by Rams owner Kroenke.

Unlike the earlier terrorism report which was authored by Tom Ridge, the former Secretary of Homeland Security, the latest report was done by Mark Rosenker, former chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board.


According to the Rosenker report, approaching aircraft could be as little as 300 feet above the Inglewood stadium, potentially dangerously close for the safety of the plane as well as fans in the stadium on game day.

Two east-west runaways are about 2½ miles from the proposed stadium site, both on flight paths that would head over the stadium or near the stadium.

As many as 68 flights per hour could fly over the stadium at LAX, one of the nation's busiest airports. Safety concerns aside, Rosenker said the noise of distractions from a plane flying over the Inglewood site every 2 minutes could greatly diminish fan enjoyment of the game.

In addition, having pregame flyovers, or a blimp above the stadium during the game would be difficult given the flight paths and congestion at LAX.

"So you're in the area where you're going be in the last phase of flight before you're gonna be touching down," Rosenker said.

"To put an NFL stadium which will house as many as 80,000 people in a concentrated area — there are better places, much better places to put a stadium than in the flight path of a major airport."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_2be4e837-d631-5d94-9fc4-82e1b9626f8d.html

oh AEG.... I understand why they're so upset, its not just a stadium, they're basically making a rival to LA live, and that can hurt business, but this notion is silly. Only 2 flights go directly over the site (St Louis and Chicago I believe), and its sunk into the ground. I fly over LA live when heading to St Louis as well, so it doesn't seem to affect the blimp that flies over Staples Center.

 

[tonyl711]

here is my latest theory, Stan will build in LA, then he sells the Rams to a St Louis owner and buys the Raiders to play in his new LA stadium, well played Stan, well played.

 

[dhaab]

oh AEG.... I understand why they're so upset, its not just a stadium, they're basically making a rival to LA live, and that can hurt business, but this notion is silly. Only 2 flights go directly over the site (St Louis and Chicago I believe), and its sunk into the ground. I fly over LA live when heading to St Louis as well, so it doesn't seem to affect the blimp that flies over Staples Center.

Look, I believe the whole terrorist target argument is ridiculous on multiple levels, however if numerous different huge airlines are flying directly over the stadium during the games, that could be a pretty big detriment to the facility.

 

[Username]

@Username Since it was New Orleans did you dick punch her?

It was in the Lou. I thought about the falcon punch. Not gonna lie. We got in a nice little argument, then she threw my hands up her shirt, which was nice and sure shut me the hell up at the moment. Not something I would trade $200 dollar Maui Jims for though.

 

[Username]

Holy shit, how much got posted today? Guess I know what I'm listening to when I get home from work now.

 

[mr.stlouis]

Nice New Avatar Mr.!!

 

[RAMbler]

Look, I believe the whole terrorist target argument is ridiculous on multiple levels, however if numerous different huge airlines are flying directly over the stadium during the games, that could be a pretty big detriment to the facility.

Weeeell, the planes won't actually be flying "directly" over the stadium..... ever.

Just Google Map it. You'll see that Hollywood Park sits right in the middle of the 2 main run ways at LAX.... LOL!

The map sure gives me a new perspective on that airport. LAX is huge.