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Ya know... I've got one that's been puzzling me the last few years. How come they don't always stop the clock when the runner goes out of bounds? I have noticed it a lot in the earlier parts of games and the runner definitely goes out but the clock keeps running.


Only last 5 minutes of each half they stop the clock


I think
 

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Why do all refs wear yellow underwear? And why are they always ripping them off, blowing a whistle and throwing them on the field in the middle of a game?
 

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Only last 5 minutes of each half they stop the clock


I think

That is actually when they stop the clock if a player goes out of bounds. It starts running when the Ref has set the ball signaled it's ready for play. So you do get some time stoppage but not complete stoppage prior to the next snap.

That happens within 2 minutes of each half ending. Player goes out of bounds and the clock stops till the next snap of the ball.

As for the spiking the ball and intentional grounding, IIRC, there is a specific rule that allows them to spike the ball for clock stoppage. Too lazy to look it up after this GREAT meal me and Missus cooked up! Still have pie coming!
 

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Ya know... I've got one that's been puzzling me the last few years. How come they don't always stop the clock when the runner goes out of bounds? I have noticed it a lot in the earlier parts of games and the runner definitely goes out but the clock keeps running.

I know its only stopped if the player went out of bounds without being pushed by a player. If contact with a player caused him to go out or if his forward progressed ended in bounds, it continues to run. Thats how I have always interpreted it. Could be wrong tho.
 

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That is actually when they stop the clock if a player goes out of bounds. It starts running when the Ref has set the ball signaled it's ready for play. So you do get some time stoppage but not complete stoppage prior to the next snap.

That happens within 2 minutes of each half ending. Player goes out of bounds and the clock stops till the next snap of the ball.

As for the spiking the ball and intentional grounding, IIRC, there is a specific rule that allows them to spike the ball for clock stoppage. Too lazy to look it up after this GREAT meal me and Missus cooked up! Still have pie coming!

Because the QB used to sail it out of bounds on purpose (even with no eligible receiver near) toward the sideline to stop the clock which was okay. The reason it's okay (I wasn't joking) is that they aren't simply hurling it away to avoid a loss or sack, which is why they are penalized. The rules changed in the mid 80's to allow them to spike it straight down because sailing it OOB takes a few seconds more.
 

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The question I have never found an answer to is, am I an alcoholic because I'm a Rams fan or am I a Rams fan because I'm an alcoholic? Ironically I started drinking the same year I started watching football, 1977 at the age of 9, which just makes it even more confusing.
 

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1. Why is spiking the ball not intentional grounding?

Had to look this up.

Because it's specifically permitted by the intentional grounding rule.

Rule 8, section 2, article 1 of the NFL Rules:

Item 3: Stopping Clock. A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if, immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball directly into the ground.

2. Do kneel downs affect a QB's stats?

Yes, they are considered a -1 yard rushing play. In multiple kneel down situations, they actually spot the ball at the site of the kneel down and it goes to 2nd and 11, 3rd and 12, etc. On a few occasions where they didn't want the QB to lose those rushing yards, they QB will lunge forward for a yard or two to preserve their stats, but it's awful rare.

3. If a defender turns his back to a play, why does the offense get penalized for impeding their progress?

4. Did the NFL rescind PI's from coaches challenges?

Yes. It was a one year rule change that failed for two reasons. 1) without full-time reps and season long reviews of what uniformly constitutes subjective calls like PI and even holding in some cases, the variability of these calls is obscene. 2) the refs clearly HATED it and when they refused to overturn even blatantly missed calls, it became crystal clear that it was only putting a highlight on an issue they are unwilling to properly address... a big officiating issue with respect to the passing game in a passing league. So, rather than fix the issue, they simply turned off the spotlight.

5. Why are personal fouls not reviewable? In fights where both players are at fault, why only penalize one? Plays where a ref thinks there's a shot to the head that is actually a shoulder are wrong. So is missing a hit to the QB's head that gets missed.

While not reviewable, NY does already and has for a few years consulted with the on field crew to properly assess fighting penalties due to mandatory disqualifications.

Part of why refs want to not solely rely on review is that slow motion doesn't really capture the play as it happened in context. Also, a guy putting a shoulder to a guy's head on purpose is still a foul (see Vontaze Burfict's hit on Antonio Brown) and can still be a disqualifying offense as well as subject to suspension (as Burfict was, iirc)

As for the Refs missing head shots on QBs, no one knows. The Refs missed head shots on both Goff and Wilson in our last game with the Seahawks. Some QBs get calls even when it's close. I can't recall the last time Goff got a call for a head shot. I really don't wanna say much more than that as my blood pressure is rising just thinking about it.

6. Why are fans allowed in some stadiums and not others?

Game attendance is governed by local, state and federal laws. Some states and some localities have more stringent rules regarding gathering in public places and as such, there are no fans in some stadiums due to COVID restrictions. Unlike other countries, we're unique in our collection of states versus a homogenous country, so things for US citizens can be VERY different for them depending on the jurisdiction. That includes attending games.

7. Why isn't there a rule as to how loud noise can be piped in to distract an opposing offense?

Piping in crowd noise is illegal after teams were caught doing it to create an unfair advantage. After Paul Allen very smartly had the Seahawk stadium specifically designed to reflect noise back down onto the field and the building all by its lonesome created a statistical advantage, the NFL put in a rule preventing any further stadium enhancements that would specifically increase noise on the field.

Most of the crowd noise you hear on broadcasts now is like a laugh track... it's added to your feed, but it's not what the announcers or players hear and it's not piped in to the playing area.

8. Why do the Rams never play on Thanksgiving?

It used to be reserved for Dallas/Detroit, iirc and then expanded to include other teams. I think Dallas is the only team to always play on thanksgiving now and Detroit is a frequent player still. The Rams as a West Coast team likely don't play on Thanksgiving due to scheduling issues when they put the season together which is why you generally don't see anyone from either the NFC West or AFC West on turkey day.

9. Did the Rams change their colors to match Wal Mart's, or was it the other way around?

Actually, I think it had to do with television. If you look at those colors, they create the most contrast and thus 'pop' the most on digital TVs. (there's actually a lot of math on this, but that's not important here) Our blue is a very saturated blue which digital TVs produce very well. I think it was a genius marketing move to go with these colors even insofar as I lobbied for the old blue and whites because our Unis pop the most on TV.

10. Why is it called football when it's mostly played by your hands?

The same reason hot dogs come 10 to a pack and hot dog buns come 8 to a pack.

Hope I was helpful.
 

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Had to look this up.

Because it's specifically permitted by the intentional grounding rule.

Rule 8, section 2, article 1 of the NFL Rules:





Yes, they are considered a -1 yard rushing play. In multiple kneel down situations, they actually spot the ball at the site of the kneel down and it goes to 2nd and 11, 3rd and 12, etc. On a few occasions where they didn't want the QB to lose those rushing yards, they QB will lunge forward for a yard or two to preserve their stats, but it's awful rare.

It looks like you may have intended to answer the question of defenders turning their back to a play and the the offense getting penalized for a block in the back. This drives me crazy. I appreciate your contributions here. Well done
 

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I am going further back than that,

I can definitely hear people saying... “man... this is the best thing since the wheel”. :D

Which was the best thing since fire... or beer? I wonder if beer is older than the wheel....
Stand-by. I have some research to do haha
 

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I've been putting this out there for years. It literally is grounding the ball on purpose towards no eligible receiver.
And quarterbacks can run outside that handy carrying case where I store my fishing lures and throw the ball to no one beyond the line of scrimmage and it’s not intentional grounding.

Personally, I don’t know why intentional grounding is even a penalty. Sometimes it’s a quarterback’s best option to avoid getting sacked or throwing a pick.
 

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Did anyone live more than 20 years after consuming one of the original "Gatorade" drinks? Man, that stuff tasted like it might have some ingredients that would have made mutated snakes and frogs if dumped in the eco system.
 

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Many states have awful leadership. All games should allow 25%-50% attendance minimum. Total B.S.
I agree.
But, I’ve come to enjoy the games on tv much more with no fans.
Hearing the on the field audibles and communication....I love that stuff.
Boxing is better on tv with no fans too.
Better camera angles, closer to the action, can hear the shots more.
 

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I agree.
But, I’ve come to enjoy the games on tv much more with no fans.
Hearing the on the field audibles and communication....I love that stuff.
Boxing is better on tv with no fans too.
Better camera angles, closer to the action, can hear the shots more.

I do like that games feel more neutral. But I miss the energy and sounds from the crowd.
 

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That is actually when they stop the clock if a player goes out of bounds. It starts running when the Ref has set the ball signaled it's ready for play. So you do get some time stoppage but not complete stoppage prior to the next snap.

That happens within 2 minutes of each half ending. Player goes out of bounds and the clock stops till the next snap of the ball.

As for the spiking the ball and intentional grounding, IIRC, there is a specific rule that allows them to spike the ball for clock stoppage. Too lazy to look it up after this GREAT meal me and Missus cooked up! Still have pie coming!
The clock stops the last 2 min before the half. The last 5 min before the end of the game. It used to be for the whole game. But the NFL realized the more commercials during a game the more money the TV stations payed them. Games started to last 4 hrs and delayed 60 minutes, which at the time was a huge ratings getter and CBS complained. So they stopped stopping the clock every time someone went out of bounds, but they still wanted a team to be able to come back and we have what we have.
 

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Why is water wet? I mean, I get why fire is hot (temperature, and all that), but what's the composition of water that makes it wet?

Ready for me to blow your mind?

Water... is not wet.

It's true. It's definitional, but yeah... water isn't wet.
 

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I am going further back than that, @badnews....

I can definitely hear people saying... “man... this is the best thing since the wheel”. :D

I accidentally ruined someone's day on twitter a few days ago.

Someone asked, "what's your favorite thing to eat raw that's usually cooked?"

One guy said, "bread. bread >>>> toast"

And I was like, bruh... bread is baked. Raw would be dough. Toast is just twice baked bread...

His response...LOL... "shit. I can't even have this..." I laughed and was sad for him at the same time.
 

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This thread is pure gold :LOL:

If there is a god, why did he make candy taste so good and nutritious food taste so bad instead of the opposite?:unsure: