Mock Draft Tidbits / 2024 Draft Talk

[WestCoastRam]

View: https://twitter.com/MattHarmon_BYB/status/1772935378900500689


Unless Chargers trade down, it sure feels like Alt. But bet he could surprise with Nabers.

Sure seems like 5 is a good spot for Vikings to get to.

 

[DzRams]

I'm concerned about Legette's route running and his tight hips, can more effort into it actually improve it, and by how much. That being said, having Robinson means he can be brought along slowly and used in certain packages right away.

Def have to see what Steve Smith says about him. Guy just knows WR talent.

Steve Smith definitely knows WR talent but talent is only half of the equation. The other half is scheme fit and player development; so much of a draftees success is contingent on them being ideally positioned in the right scheme.

Is McVay's scheme the right fit for Legette? Has McVay had any success with WRs that were not great route runners?

 

[WestCoastRam]

NFL Draft: Don't over think it — Marvin Harrison Jr. is best WR in this class

Harrison Jr.'s promise as an NFL prospect has been firm for almost two years now. Then, as it seemingly always does during draft season, questions and nitpicks got louder. Ignore them all.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[OldSchool]

I'm concerned about Legette's route running and his tight hips, can more effort into it actually improve it, and by how much. That being said, having Robinson means he can be brought along slowly and used in certain packages right away.

Def have to see what Steve Smith says about him. Guy just knows WR talent.

Here's one video he talks about him a bit with RG3. Starts about 3:30 in


View: https://youtu.be/e4GdJN7aUXE?si=rQ3gdALhtD-5JUoc

 

[OldSchool]

Steve Smith definitely knows WR talent but talent is only half of the equation. The other half is scheme fit and player development; so much of a draftees success is contingent on them being ideally positioned in the right scheme.

Is McVay's scheme the right fit for Legette? Has McVay had any success with WRs that were not great route runners?

I'd suggest you watch Smith talk about Legette, might answer your questions.

 

[payote75]

I got a 2025 2nd in this one as well... lots of trades.

I love the big DB's of Hicks & Jackson.

PS: I did this pre- White signing
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I will say probably Everytime someone puts it up ...I love love love Pearsall...I could live with this draft id probably want to sneak if it was possible Michael Hall jr in there but I'm probably dreaming....thumbs up

 

[DzRams]

I'd suggest you watch Smith talk about Legette, might answer your questions.

It doesn't really answer them. I had heard his comparison to DK before. He doesn't say he's a great route runner. He had a limited route tree like DK.

Is that a McVay type of WR? I don't know, but I haven't seen him draft the type that was limited in route running.

 

[Flatlyner]

I hope you're both right b/c I think he'll be there at 19. The medicals concern me but I'm also not nearly that high on him. NFL.com ranked Bosa and last year's Will Anderson as 7.0+ (Pro Bowl) talents. Latu has a 6.50 grade which is not even projected to be a year 1 starter. (He would start for us though b/c Hoecht is subpar.)

If the NFL thought he was going to be Bosa or TJ Watt they would take him in the top 10. And if he was projected to go in the top 10 and I thought he would be as good as those guys, I would advocate trading up for him. Because more than filling in needs, they need another game wrecker or two especially given AD's retirement.

The main issue with the draft experts is, they do not have any idea what his medicals are saying. They are hedging their bets with his mock position and ranking. Fully healthy with no issues, he is easily the best edge in this class based on production and tape. The real test will be where he actually is taken. One teams Dr might take him off draft board entirely, one might clear him fully. I think we will end up surprised how early he goes (just my guess that several dr's will clear him). He will be 1st defender drafted IMO, which will be our loss. IMO, he is Watt and Bosa coming out, with an injury caveat.

 

[OldSchool]

It doesn't really answer them. I had heard his comparison to DK before. He doesn't say he's a great route runner. He had a limited route tree like DK.

Is that a McVay type of WR? I don't know, but I haven't seen him draft the type that was limited in route running.

That's just one of the videos he talks about him. Check them out. Also he's saying that going into the draft he's better at so.ething than DK was and DK became a better route runner once in the NFL and he thinks Legette has the same ability in him. Talks about how good he is for every thing he's done and been through and his limited time at WR.

I've linked many Smith videos and Legette isn't the only WR he likes just the one I happened to pick in this particular simulator. His youtube channel is great. He really really likes my draft crush Anias Smith Jr.

 

[DzRams]

That's just one of the videos he talks about him. Check them out. Also he's saying that going into the draft he's better at so.ething than DK was and DK became a better route runner once in the NFL and he thinks Legette has the same ability in him. Talks about how good he is for every thing he's done and been through and his limited time at WR.

I've linked many Smith videos and Legette isn't the only WR he likes just the one I happened to pick in this particular simulator. His youtube channel is great. He really really likes my draft crush Anias Smith Jr.

I love Ainias Smith. I try to get him in as many mocks as I can.

Don't get me wrong on Legette. I like him and think he could be great. I just question whether McVay will like that type. I've seen this video and one other of Smith comparing him to DK. Both times though he alluded to him not being a great route runner since he was limited in his route tree. Sure, he can grow in that area. However, I don't recall McVay drafting or trading for a WR that wasn't already a good route runner.

 

[muggmeister]

LAiatu LAtu from ucLA, how the hell can he play anywhere else than LA? As you may have seen from my previous posts I'm completely on board for making him a Ram. It's all in the name and LA will be what they call our future Hall of Famer.

 

[OldSchool]

I love Ainias Smith. I try to get him in as many mocks as I can.

Don't get me wrong on Legette. I like him and think he could be great. I just question whether McVay will like that type. I've seen this video and one other of Smith comparing him to DK. Both times though he alluded to him not being a great route runner since he was limited in his route tree. Sure, he can grow in that area. However, I don't recall McVay drafting or trading for a WR that wasn't already a good route runner.

I get that but let me ask a question. Do you think there is a McVay type that plays the X? What we see he likes in a WR you don't often see in the guys who excel as an X. We've never really had a good one with McVay i.o. we've had a few guys that filled the spot but I don't k own that he's ever really had that kind d of guy. I think he gets it this year and there are guys who we could draft in a multitude of rounds for that dpot

 

[Ramhusker]

My Draft Picks
19.

Dallas TurnerEDGE Alabama
62.

Braden FiskeDT Florida State

83.

Cole BishopS Utah
93.

Junior ColsonLB Michigan

99.

Mike SainristilCB Michigan
154.

Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State
155.

Garret GreenfieldOT South Dakota State
209.

Sataoa LaumeaOG Utah
213.

Sione VakiS Utah
217.

Anthony GouldWR Oregon State
254.

Cam LittleK Arkansas


McVay would be pissed about the lack of WR picks. OBJ back in town for a year?

 

[WestCoastRam]

View: https://twitter.com/FB_FilmAnalysis/status/1773078694421987730

 

[DzRams]

I get that but let me ask a question. Do you think there is a McVay type that plays the X? What we see he likes in a WR you don't often see in the guys who excel as an X. We've never really had a good one with McVay i.o. we've had a few guys that filled the spot but I don't k own that he's ever really had that kind d of guy. I think he gets it this year and there are guys who we could draft in a multitude of rounds for that dpot

Yes. Odunze!

Also, Cooks. They likely would have kept him for years but he started getting concussions. I'm already on record as saying I think there is a reason they interviewed Odunze and were rumored to be strongly interested in Mike Evans before he resigned with his team.

With all of the recent signing on D, I feel they are setting themselves up to make a move at 19. I suspect it's for an X WR - one of the top 4 guys.

 

[Merlin]

What makes Legette intriguing is he's one of those who might be a better pro than he was in college. If and when he puts things together he's potentially a beast of a player. Dude can get up for it, he's an explosive athlete, would be a threat anywhere he catches it.

But I do agree he has to fit on the mental side with the Rams. They're known to be one of the tougher offenses, they run a shit ton of motions and use the wideouts heavily in the run game. So they aren't going to want a one-trick pony who can just run nines. Gotta be cerebral enough to grasp the playbook quickly as a rook in order to translate early on.

 

[Flatlyner]

That's just one of the videos he talks about him. Check them out. Also he's saying that going into the draft he's better at so.ething than DK was and DK became a better route runner once in the NFL and he thinks Legette has the same ability in him. Talks about how good he is for every thing he's done and been through and his limited time at WR.

I've linked many Smith videos and Legette isn't the only WR he likes just the one I happened to pick in this particular simulator. His youtube channel is great. He really really likes my draft crush Anias Smith Jr.

Now THAT is a McVay type WR. Not to mention he could be a killer returner for us, the likes of which we haven't had in a long time.

 

[Ramhusker]

This would float my boat!

27.
Johnny Newton DT Illinois
54.
Xavier Legette WR South Carolina
59.
Brandon Dorlus EDGE Oregon
83.
Cole Bishop S Utah
90.
Kris Jenkins DT Michigan
104.
Malik Washington WR Virginia
117.
Audric Estime RB Notre Dame
154.
Garret Greenfield OT South Dakota State
203.
Omar Speights LB LSU
217.
Dylan McMahon AND NC State
254.
Storm Duck CB Louisville

2025 CLE 3rd

 

[OldSchool]

This would float my boat!

27.
Johnny Newton DT Illinois
54.
Xavier Legette WR South Carolina
59.
Brandon Dorlus EDGE Oregon
83.
Cole Bishop S Utah
90.
Kris Jenkins DT Michigan
104.
Malik Washington WR Virginia
117.
Audric Estime RB Notre Dame
154.
Garret Greenfield OT South Dakota State
203.
Omar Speights LB LSU
217.
Dylan McMahon AND NC State
254.
Storm Duck CB Louisville

2025 CLE 3rd

We need a backup center still more than a 5th tackle. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Oregonram]

Nice vid here by Kurt, who always puts up quality of course. I will add... There aren't a lot of QBs who can "arm" the ball where they want it, i.e. placing it with accuracy, when their feet are not ideally lined up. Penix is one of them. What will he be after a redshirt year where he works on his lower body mechanics a bit? I think the Rams would be an ideal landing spot for him, though of course I don't see us taking him but I also would not rule it out if he has the right stuff on the chalkboard and interacting with the Rams staff. He's the best deep ball thrower in this class in spite of his iffy lower body mechanics, IMO, and that's something that is very difficult to teach. Many QBs lack the cajones to do that. But you can teach this kid mechanics.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCc6K46ROg

I am Duck fan..so take this with a grain of salt. The few games I saw him play versus Bo Nix....I think Odunze made Penix look better than he is as Odunze seemed to always give Penix a huge window to throw to...Nix, I believe, can throw into tighter windows as he didn't have anyone like Odunze getting big separations. Jmho