Marcus Peters since Week 9...

[fearsomefour]

That isn't my argument though.

Petes has been fine when he's having his hand held. So has Goff. The question is how would they look without it? We know for Peters, I just wonder what Goff would look like without McVay in his ear.

Who knows?

 

[Liberator]

Who knows?

Well we do know Peters has been good without Talib before whereas we have no idea how Goff would look without McVay. Either way, my entire point was just objecting to someone calling Peters pathetic for needing help but not Goff. Like I said, both young players who are still learning. Nothing pathetic about it.

 

[Ram65]

The deep ball to Gallup was on Peters. He vacated his zone.

I've defended Joyner in the past. This time I'm not sure it was on Peters where Gallup went deep. I don't know for sure if Wade is having them play a match up zone but, it looks that way. During that play Joyner was closes to Gallup and had him covered but, let him slip behind him. Had he stayed with Gallup he could had a chance to make a play on the ball. Peters went with Cooper over the middle. Joyner wasn't in position to cover Cooper. Both were open early too.

I wish I knew what Wade was having them do as it isn't working.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Put MP on Thomas early ( I know sounds crazy ) use Talib to shutdown Ginn or whoever is #2 and roll the coverage to help MP. If it doesn't work opt out. It could work. Either way I trust that we will be ready. This Ram team is funny. It is the first season that I am way more concerned about how we play than who we play. Maybe the first Ram team ever I have felt like this about for a whole season. I am ready hope MP and the boys are. My above philosophy I got from listening to every pundit that I can this week

 

[LesBaker]

I'm not happy with Peters giving up plays but I think I am more worried about the Saints running the ball all day and playing keep away.

I'm worried about a few things actually LOL. Typical of me with the Rams.

 

[majrleaged]

The deep ball to Gallup was on Peters. He vacated his zone.

Talib was in concussion protocol. It figures

 

[Corbin]

Let's see how Peters does this week, in the NFC Championship game, against Thomas. It's playoff time, and time to judge him. If he does well, and Rams head to the Super Bowl, all of 2018 regarding Peters will be forgotten by me!

My thoughts exactly. If he performs I will forget about his bad games earlier in the season as far as holding a grudge. His contract situation no matter what is going to be interesting after this season

 

[PARAM]

The Rams with Talib and Peters in the lineup?
6-2
The Rams with just Peters?
8-1
Sure I know that's an anomaly but still, with all angst over MP, it doesn't seem to show up in the "L" column

 

[Adi]

Hes always been a gambler and this season he lost alot . I think he makes a big play tomorrow , hes still a very talented player

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Put MP on Thomas early ( I know sounds crazy ) use Talib to shutdown Ginn or whoever is #2 and roll the coverage to help MP. If it doesn't work opt out. It could work. Either way I trust that we will be ready. This Ram team is funny. It is the first season that I am way more concerned about how we play than who we play. Maybe the first Ram team ever I have felt like this about for a whole season. I am ready hope MP and the boys are. My above philosophy I got from listening to every pundit that I can this week

No not crazy at all, MP wants his reckoning on this unfinished matter, he may just get it as long as he plays within the plan

 

[kurtfaulk]

Well we do know Peters has been good without Talib before whereas we have no idea how Goff would look without McVay.

We know every other qb that looked bad with fisher has looked a lot better with someone else. I'm sure Goff will be fine.

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[jrry32]

I've defended Joyner in the past. This time I'm not sure it was on Peters where Gallup went deep. I don't know for sure if Wade is having them play a match up zone but, it looks that way. During that play Joyner was closes to Gallup and had him covered but, let him slip behind him. Had he stayed with Gallup he could had a chance to make a play on the ball. Peters went with Cooper over the middle. Joyner wasn't in position to cover Cooper. Both were open early too.

I wish I knew what Wade was having them do as it isn't working.

It was Cover 3. Joyner was playing a hook to curl. Peters had the deep third. Peters vacated his zone to chase Amari Cooper over the middle. It was Peters' mistake. There are zone defenders in the middle of the field whose job it is to cover Cooper.

 

[Merlin]

I expect him to play the call for the most part tomorrow and he should have a good day as a result. Long as he has Talib back there telling him wtf to do he'll be fine. Peters always gives up a WTF play here and there, key is keeping those to an extreme minimum.

 

[jrry32]

Put MP on Thomas early ( I know sounds crazy ) use Talib to shutdown Ginn or whoever is #2 and roll the coverage to help MP. If it doesn't work opt out. It could work. Either way I trust that we will be ready. This Ram team is funny. It is the first season that I am way more concerned about how we play than who we play. Maybe the first Ram team ever I have felt like this about for a whole season. I am ready hope MP and the boys are. My above philosophy I got from listening to every pundit that I can this week

I think this is a bad plan. Thomas isn't a burner and wasn't giving Peters problems deep (until the play where Peters got caught with his pants down at the snap). He was bullying Peters and pushing him around. Talib is a big CB who can match his physicality. Peters better matches up to Ginn, and Talib better matches up to Thomas.

I've defended Joyner in the past. This time I'm not sure it was on Peters where Gallup went deep. I don't know for sure if Wade is having them play a match up zone but, it looks that way. During that play Joyner was closes to Gallup and had him covered but, let him slip behind him. Had he stayed with Gallup he could had a chance to make a play on the ball. Peters went with Cooper over the middle. Joyner wasn't in position to cover Cooper. Both were open early too.

I wish I knew what Wade was having them do as it isn't working.

My last post was cursory, so I'll give a better explanation. I can't tell if it's a matchup-zone because half the field looks like it is and half the field looks like it isn't (my best guess is that it isn't based on Peters and Joyner). However, I can tell that it's Cover 3 Sky. Here are some pictures that show the coverage:

Even if it is a matchup-zone, Peters is still in the wrong. Even in matchup-zone coverage, you don't vacate your responsibility like that (because Peters would be responsible for Gallup). I understand why Peters did what he did. We had two big mistakes outside of Peters on this play:
1. Fowler was supposed to carry the WR over the middle. He didn't.
2. Littleton vacated his rush lane, which allowed Dak to scramble and hit the big play.

That all said, Peters can't vacate his deep-third assignment to cover a lesser threat. I understand that he thought Joyner could handle it. And had Littleton not vacated his rush lane, Joyner probably could have handled it. But Joyner was expecting help over the top, so he was playing underneath coverage to see if he could bait Dak into a mistake. Peters needs to let John Johnson clean up Fowler's mistake there. I criticized Joyner a lot in that game, but I can't fairly criticize him for this play. He executed his assignment properly.

 

[Corbin]

Put MP on Thomas early ( I know sounds crazy ) use Talib to shutdown Ginn or whoever is #2 and roll the coverage to help MP. If it doesn't work opt out. It could work. Either way I trust that we will be ready. This Ram team is funny. It is the first season that I am way more concerned about how we play than who we play. Maybe the first Ram team ever I have felt like this about for a whole season. I am ready hope MP and the boys are. My above philosophy I got from listening to every pundit that I can this week

Worst idea I’ve read. So put Peters on the guy he gave 212 yards to last time? No.

You send Talib to cover Thomas and Peters covers the second, other guy in zone.

 

[rdlkgliders]

other guy in zone.

what do you mean by other guy in zone? Our slot or nickel corner?
Peters with coverage rolled to support. Talib hopefully would completely shutdown the 2. I believe this has been done with success but it was not us, so maybe our personnel isn't capable which is why you bail if it doesn't work. The pressure actually gets taken away from MP by the support favoring. It is almost a double team but more of a zone in support

 

[rdlkgliders]

@Corbin
My main concern is Brees (Thomas) we need to slow Brees. Vacate zones, disguise coverage and give him things to think about and question. He is to smart and savvy. Whatever we do I hope it works. I said above I am more concerned about us than them and my biggest concern with us is the Secondary. MP has been better and We have been better as a team in the secondary. The first meeting was during the stretch we played the worst. I really hope we play well and have a chance to win it in the end......

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Well I see some pretty esteemed ROD members here believing MP is not up to the challenge, fair enough, I wholeheartedly disagree with that notion, MP has taken considerable grief over that meeting and has an opportunity to make amends, and I’m sure he’s ready for it

Look no further than a Philly team that got waxed 48-7 had no business making last weeks game close yet but for a dropped pass they were there till the end, it’s all about adjustments

No use arguing this, I’m pretty certain MP WILL match up with Thomas frequently enough, I’ll go on record right now as predicting the results tomorrow will be different

Go Rams!

 

[rdlkgliders]

@OC--LeftCoast
Oh don't think for a minute that I am myopic enough to think I have found the missing puzzle piece LOL. I doubt as much as the next guy. I am hoping MP was in a slump, still nicked ( he was ) has learned from his mistakes???, Is being schemed better by Wade. His heads is his issue many a ex DB's and scouts think he is in Darell Reeves territory when it comes to natural ability. I am not saying that myself but he is a better player than he allows himself to be. If he plays within himself and uses technique and fundamentals maybe he fares well. In the end I am a bucket of nerves shootin the shit with my favorite group of Ram fans.....

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

@OC--LeftCoast
Oh don't think for a minute that I am myopic enough to think I have found the missing puzzle piece LOL. I doubt as much as the next guy. I am hoping MP was in a slump, still nicked ( he was ) has learned from his mistakes???, Is being schemed better by Wade. His heads is his issue many a ex DB's and scouts think he is in Darell Reeves territory when it comes to natural ability. I am not saying that myself but he is a better player than he allows himself to be. If he plays within himself and uses technique and fundamentals maybe he fares well. In the end I am a bucket of nerves shootin the crap with my favorite group of Ram fans.....

Oh trust me myopic didn’t enter my mind

I’m pretty sure the Rams are going to gameplan MT quite differently than the first meeting

I’m just hoping they can also contain the Saints backfield, I like how the defensive front 7 seems to be peaking and expect it to carry over tomorrow