'Magical' memories: Rams remain dear to Mike Martz

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We should have NEVER got rid of Martz....Let him learn on the job...find a DC's...figure out how he's killing QB's...he could make a UDFA a star....no problem replacing them...

Kurt holds a grudge for the greatest years of his career. Maybe it is because he found renewed success in Arizona so he hung his hat on that but its a bit bittersweet to listen to Kurt bash the Rams at times on NFL Gameday.
Pro athlete's are pride driven...The "I'll show you" demeanor they carry is what fuels most to greatness....Kurt is no different...He's in that Fitzpatrick mode, nobody likes/believes in me...and he showed us he still had a bunch left...Worst move we made in 2000's. Maybe ever...
 

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Good and bad. Martz would get Goff productive quickly AND install an offense that utilized our threats. We'd potentially be not just good, but great on offense in a very short period of time.

The bad comes from Martz sacrificing QBs. His personality hasn't kept him out of the league. Rob Ryan is still coaching with MORE and far less to show for it. And Martz got 4K yards from John Kitna, get cryin' out loud. Problem is that there is one thing you can't ruin on a football team and that's the QB. Martz exposes the QB too often. I actually think Goff would be an excellent fit to learn from Martz and maybe a partnership of Fisher and Martz would lessen the risk to the QB.

We'll never know, but Goff would be 20x better under Martz than this offensive regime (in every sense).
I e actually listened to a few interviews that he said after looking back in retrospect after this amount of years that's one of the things he could have improved on and made a mistake with leaving the QB totallly exposed. That he could of done a bit better job to protect him.

Also in SB 36 he should of rode Marshall the second half and made a mistake limiting him.

That's a lot coming from him! However, I still wouldn't trust him with our TO's! :rolllaugh:
 

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Revisiting The Greatest Show On Turf
Neil Paine
Fifteen years ago, Mike Martz had a radical notion: “Why does the run have to set up the pass?”

That, according to Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, was the question the new St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator posed to his head coach, Dick Vermeil, as they prepared for the coming NFL season in June 1999. It was to be Vermeil’s third in St. Louis, and judging from the press clippings, probably his last if things didn’t change in a hurry.1Things did change in a hurry, but it was still Vermeil’s last year with the team — just not for the reason fans expected before the season. Over the previous two seasons, Vermeil had coached the Rams to 23 losses and only nine wins, with an offense that ranked 23rd out of 30 NFL teams in passing efficiency and 26th in scoring.

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Then came Martz. “I don’t know of any assistant coach that came in, at any one time, in any one program, and made as big a contribution as Mike did at that time,” Vermeil said in a recent interview. In his estimation, Martz’s contribution to the Rams2Along with those of wide receivers coach Al Saunders, offensive line coach John Matsko, and strength coach Dana LeDuc. was equivalent to that of a first-round pick — and that’s not a hard case to make. Upon Martz’s arrival, the Rams went from laughingstocks to Super Bowl champs with an explosive attack that came to be known as the “Greatest Show on Turf.”

It was, at the time, the third-most potent scoring offense and the second-most efficient passing attack3By adjusted net yards per attempt generated above league average. the league had seen in its modern incarnation.4Going back to 1970, the year of the AFL-NFL merger. And of even more historical significance, the Rams did it before the league became fixated on throwing the ball.

While the longtime mantra of football coaches everywhere had been to “establish the run” before passing, Martz’s plan was to aggressively pass the ball until the Rams had a lead worth protecting with the run. Stocked with speed everywhere and willing to throw in any situation, the Greatest Show on Turf proved that pass-first teams could win championships, and it heralded the passing fireworks we see in the NFL today.

“If you go back and look at the other teams of that era, the ‘conventional’ teams that you were competing with, [the Rams were] the aberration of the day,” said former Baltimore Ravens coach and current NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, whose head-coaching debut came against the Rams in their 1999 regular-season opener. “St. Louis was so far ahead. It’s hard to say [they were] ‘pass-happy’ because they actually ran the ball pretty well,” he said. “But there’s no question they wanted to throw the ball.”

As Billick noted, St. Louis still could run effectively — running back Marshall Faulk racked up the NFL’s fifth-most rushing yards in 1999 — but that wasn’t the team’s focus. The Rams anticipated what statistical analysts would eventually come to learn about football: Teams run when they win; they don’t win when they run. After using all that passing to build early leads, St. Louis rushed on the league’s sixth-largest proportion of its second-half plays — and no team devoted more of its fourth-quarter plays to running the ball. Martz had successfully flipped conventional football wisdom on its head, using the pass to set up the run just as he had set out to do.

And ever since the Greatest Show on Turf hit the NFL scene, the league has trended toward ever more (and more effective) passing, further enabled by rule changes designed to incentivize every team to spread the field and throw the ball aggressively.

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The genesis of the Rams’ aggressive strategy came when Martz was coaching quarterbacks for the Washington Redskins a year earlier. As ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski tells the story in his book “The Games That Changed The Game,” Martz realized that his pass-heavy third-down play packages were too effective to be confined to such a narrow situation.5Despite relatively average yards-per-play numbers across all situations, Washington had ranked fourth in the league in third-down conversion rate in 1997. “Since we both love these plays so much,” Martz asked head coach Norv Turner, “why can’t we run them whenever we want? Why wait till third down?”

“So what happened was that we decided to run these third-and-long plays regardless of down and distance or field position,” Martz told Jaworski. “To us it simply didn’t matter anymore. This kept defenses guessing — they couldn’t zero in on our tendencies, personnel packages, or formations, because they’d always have to be ready for the big pass.”

Armed with such convention-breaking ideas, Martz represented the most revolutionary branch of the coaching tree originally planted by retired San Diego Chargers coach Don Coryell. Martz’s preferred offensive system, nicknamed “Air Coryell” for its emphasis on defense-stretching pass plays, wasn’t new; as the name implied, the system was first developed by Coryell in the 1960s at San Diego State, and later used to great effect at the NFL level by the Chargers of the early ’80s.6Under the coordination of Turner, another Coryell acolyte, the Dallas Cowboys had won multiple Super Bowls running the offense in the early 1990s. But it had never been taken to the extremes Martz envisioned upon joining the Rams staff.

During the 1998 season, just three teams passed on more than 50 percent of their first-down plays.7When the score was close, and filtering out late-game situations. Running the West Coast Offense under coach Mike Holmgren, the Green Bay Packers threw in a league-high 57 percent of those situations — but gained an average of only 5.8 yards per attempt.8By comparison, the league average across all passes that season was 6.8 yards. This was an artifact of the West Coast’s philosophy, which had overtaken the league in the two decades since its creation by legendary coach Bill Walsh. Similar to Coryell’s scheme, Walsh’s offense emphasized passing over rushing, but it focused on stretching the field horizontally with short passes as a means of ball control. By contrast, Martz wanted to throw early and often, but also sought to stretch the field with deep passing.

“If you’ve got a Mercedes,” Martz said at the time, “you don’t keep it in the garage.”

After an offseason overhaul, the Rams possessed the football equivalent of German engineering under the hood. First, they signed accurate passer Trent Green9Fresh off a career season under Martz in Washington. to conduct Martz’s mad experiment from behind center. Then, capitalizing on a brewing contract dispute with the Indianapolis Colts, St. Louis heisted Faulk in a trade, giving up just a pair of draft picks for the league’s best all-around running back. Days later, they used the sixth overall pick in the draft on Torry Holt, anticipating a productive pairing at wide receiver with former Pro Bowler Isaac Bruce returning from injury. Even the role players, such as second-year receiver Az-Zahir Hakim, had otherworldly speed.

Vermeil was already a longtime Air Coryell believer,10“I had run it myself in Philadelphia on a smaller-volume scale in the late ’70s and early ’80s,” he said. and had been trying to install the offense in St. Louis for two years, but lacked the proper personnel. “We had the foundation of it, installed by [former offensive coordinator] Jerry Rhome, the first two years I was there,” Vermeil told me. “I had actually limited [the playbook’s] growth my second year there because we couldn’t complete in the high 60 percent of our throws. So I instructed people to cut back in the volume, hoping that we could improve the execution and the completion percentage.”

With Martz, Faulk, Bruce, Green and Holt in place, such cutbacks were no longer necessary. In the preseason of 1999, Green completed 28 of 32 passes (88 percent) before suffering a season-ending knee injury in the team’s third game. When unheralded backup Kurt Warner stepped in, Vermeil said, Martz and the coaching staff “made no adjustments” to the offensive scheme.

True to Vermeil’s expectations, Warner ended up completing 65.1 percent of his passes, which at the time was the third-best single-season completion percentage by any quarterback ever.11Among quarterbacks with 450 attempts. In addition, the Rams came within striking distance of the 1989 San Francisco 49ers’ mark for the NFL’s second-most efficient passing offense since the merger12Relative to league average.

More importantly, the Rams proved that a team could win without establishing the ground game before unleashing holy terror through the air. On first downs,13Again, when the score was close, and filtering out late-game situations. St. Louis passed a league-high 59 percent of the time, and gained 7.6 yards per attempt on those throws (11 percent more than the NFL average on all attempts that year) and scored a touchdown on 7.4 percent of them (almost twice the league average across all attempts). On the whole, the Rams passed 5.4 percent more than would be expected from their +9.1 average in-game scoring margin — still the biggest disparity by any Super Bowl winner since the merger.

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“The spread-out type of system, it really did begin with them, because they were so explosive,” Billick told me. “It was a little bit different [from their contemporaries], but they were very successful with it. Kurt Warner made it work, and they spread you out in a way that very few teams could spread you out — that looks, today, very familiar.”

Although no one knew it at the time, the Rams were at the leading edge of something that was about to take over pro football. The NFL’s average passer rating in 1999 was 75.1 — essentially the same as it had been for a decade — and Warner’s 109.2 rate led the league by a mile. It was, at the time, the second-highest single-season mark ever. Within five years, though, the league-average rating had eclipsed 80.0 for the first time ever, with two players14Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper. surpassing Warner’s rating from 1999. By last season, the average NFL passer rating was 84.1, with Warner’s 1999 mark dropping to 10th all time. Because of their sheer effectiveness, pass-first offensive philosophies have gone from the vanguard (see Coryell’s Chargers, or the various Run-and-Shoot teams of the ’90s) to commonplace over the last 15 years.

The conventional narrative is that Bill Belichick’s New England Patriots finally solved Martz’s offense in Super Bowl XXXVI, limiting the Rams to 17 points by making Faulk a non-factor. But St. Louis still moved the ball well in the loss, amassing 427 total yards while Faulk notched 130 yards from scrimmage.15In other words, if not for three turnovers, the Rams would likely have won another Super Bowl in 2002. And after a disastrous 7-9 season in 2002, a reloaded version of the Greatest Show on Turf emerged behind another obscure QB (Marc Bulger) to tie for second in the NFL in scoring during the 2003 season.16Ranking behind only Vermeil and Green’s Kansas City Chiefs. The true end came later, as the Rams’ talent scattered. Faulk retired in 2006, while Bruce, Holt and All-Decade left tackle Orlando Pace donned unfamiliar uniforms in their twilight years. Martz took his system to Detroit, San Francisco and Chicago, garnering mixed reviews when lesser talents were plugged in.

To the coaches, then, the Greatest Show on Turf was really about the perfect marriage of a high-powered strategy and a gifted roster.

“This game has been, is now, and always will be about talent,” Billick said. “Taking nothing away from the system, you’re talking about Hall of Famers like Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner — who I believe will be in the Hall of Fame — the talents of an Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt … These were unique talents that the system adapted to very, very well.”

Vermeil concurred. “Very few teams ever have that kind of skill, at one time, on their side of the line of scrimmage,” he said.

It was those players who allowed Martz’s progressive game-planning to thrive, and it was his system that showcased their skills. His fingerprints can still be seen on the league 15 years later.
 

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Call me crazy all you want, but I still would love to see this guy coordinating our offense.
 

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Good and bad. Martz would get Goff productive quickly AND install an offense that utilized our threats. We'd potentially be not just good, but great on offense in a very short period of time.

The bad comes from Martz sacrificing QBs. His personality hasn't kept him out of the league. Rob Ryan is still coaching with MORE and far less to show for it. And Martz got 4K yards from John Kitna, get cryin' out loud. Problem is that there is one thing you can't ruin on a football team and that's the QB. Martz exposes the QB too often. I actually think Goff would be an excellent fit to learn from Martz and maybe a partnership of Fisher and Martz would lessen the risk to the QB.

We'll never know, but Goff would be 20x better under Martz than this offensive regime (in every sense).

This is true.

But the interesting thing too about a guy like Martz is he can maximize QB play for you. So even in the event he were to take over and suffer an injury at QB the next guy up would have his best chance to succeed.

Also I think Martz is at his best under a more conservative type head coach. Vermiel kept him grounded late in games by having him dial up more runs to eat the clock, and they made a nice duo. Fish is similar to DV in his mentality, and I think they'd also work well together.

Aside from all that, though, I do like Rob Boras and the addition of Groh. There's a reasonable chance that once Goff gets online we'll see more positive result from the gameplanning, which has actually been good. Guys are being schemed to make plays, they're just not executing for the most part. Only suggestion I'd make at this point is do a better job in the QA of your predictability; teams know if you run, say, 90% of the time from a certain formation on a certain down/distance, that is what they'll be sitting on. I think Boras could get better in anticipating that and flipping it on the defense.
 

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This man won us a Super Bowl. Wish there was some way to get him coaching our team again
How about that Vermiel guy? J/K

Wonderful football mind, for sure. Great as a Coordinator.

Head coach? Not so much, IMO.

Once he got control of the drafts, things just started to deteriorate.

It was a magical time... Martz was a huge part of that. But there were a lot of other things that clicked... like the Oline was very good.

If you have a good QB with time to throw, a great RB and the plays are well designed? You really have something... and they did!

Bad Oline and your QB's under siege? Problems.

If Martz came back as OC for the Rams with this Oline? I'd worry for the health of our QBs.

McDaniels tried for force a passing game behind a bad Oline... didn't go so well.

I wish Martz the very best in his retirement and I think him for all he did as our OC.
 

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I've always said I miss the feeling of it being 4th and 30 and you knew martz's rams were going to pick up a 1st down ....
 

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I miss Martz, but I remember being frustrated with him as a HC. Wasted time outs. Stubborn stretches. Exposed QB. Relationship troubles outside the locker room.

But; he was so aggressive and creative. It was fun being "that team".
 

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So we fans can see this about Martz but ownership and the front office can't.

Jim Thomas or Bernie said it, be careful what you wish for when Martz got fired.

Since the day Martz left, our Rams have SUCKED.

Hope you read this Stan. I don't think you have the balls to bring Martz back.
 

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The thing with Mad Mike is that he is all about exploiting mismatches---not just in the passing game but in the running attack too. In a talk last season he talked about how he opened up the passing game with the most aggressive implementation of Air Coryell. The entire NFL has followed suit, and now every Tom, Dick, & Harry has their own spread offensive attack. Defenses have adjusted too, and now most teams have quality 3rd and 4th CB's to complement their starting pair to balance the Mad Mike-inspired air assault. The forward thinking Martz sees this as a golden opportunity to exploit the rushing game, and I would love to see him bring his ideas to our offense, even if it means making some OL upgrades.
 

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I'd give my left nutt if the Rams hired him as our OC, Martz coaching the offense and Williams coaching the defense..... wow. Someone give me Fishers # this just makes too much sense.

Fisher will not hire anyone he can't control.That's why you will never see the Rams
hire a big name offensive coordinator under Jeff Fisher.