Looking ahead at this roster

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Obviously, it's way early to speculate on things like this. But Darious William's play and contract situation had me looking at the roster again, in light of the priority extensions they are already facing. Williams is in a contract year and is looking at being a priority re-signing. He's due for a big payday and he deserves it. Snead has done an amazing job in loading this roster with talent. This secondary has the makings of being perhaps the best secondary (also the deepest) in the NFL. Burgess looked like the real deal before he got hurt. When they drafted Burgess and then Fuller it was apparent that Snead will allow Johnson to walk and get a comp pick for him in 2022. This will make them 3 deep at safety with Scott looking like a decent #4. (With Gervase likely filling in as Johnson departs).

Polite seems to have taken Okoronkwo's spot even before Ogbo got hurt and looks to be a decent backup level player. But IMO they do need better than Polite as #2 behind Lewis and Floyd. That said I would like to see Hollins given an opportunity in that role. Samson is no longer a scheme fit for this defense and I'm assuming he won't be extended as Hollins seems to be a better scheme fit. What I'm saying is that despite what seems to be apparent roster losses, the replacements are already playing.

This roster is built as long as they are able to extend their priority FAs next year. Their draft will be to continue to build depth. That is why having no 1st round pick isn't a problem. They have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks as well as a 4th, 6th and 7th round pick. The way Snead drafts that's a lot of talent he can acquire next year.

People think this team needs to draft at ILB but IMO they really only need depth at those positions. I think that depth is already on the roster with Moncrief and Rozeboom. Also as we have seen in Staley's scheme he really only needs one ILB and is better served playing a nickel with 3 safeties which he has with Rapp, Fuller, and Burgess.

With Floyd and Lewis, I think they have their starting edge players. But with Lewis' injury history they need better depth. The Rams are 3 deep at RB but Brown is in a contract year. IMO they need to extend him but also change his role next year. IMO they need to coach Brown up as a FB. He's got the size, speed, and hands to play that role, he simply needs to be coached up in the blocking techniques. It would add a whole new dimension to McVay's play-action if both the RB and FB then release as receivers after the fake. At 5'11" and 215 lbs Brown has the size and most of all the power to play the role. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't used him in that role already. Playing a FB will absolutely force the defense to honor the run. With the emergence of Higbee, it allows McVay to play a FB yet still have his 3 receivers in layered routes.

At WR I think the need to extend Williams will force their hand with Reynolds and allow him to walk. With Kupp, Woods, and Jefferson they will still be 3 deep at starters and IMO Webster is buried talent who has speed, agility, and hands making them in reality 4 deep at WR.

IMO this is Fox's breakout year. With Hoecht and Jonah Williams, the Rams look to be well set at depth on the interior d-line. Everywhere I look on this roster I don't see any glaring holes. IMO SJD, Polite, Okoronkwo are marginal players, but I also see guys already on the team that given the opportunity IMO could be better fits next year.
 

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Williams is an RFA. But yeah teams will still want to sign him away and give up that high tender comp and lock him up. Especially the late first round type teams.

Right now the concern is LT. Rams' hopes ride largely on that IMO. If they hold it down with good enough play we'll be ok. But that's going to be the story of the rest of this season and chances are we'll be relying even more on this defense in the division matchups that remain.
 

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Williams is an RFA. But yeah teams will still want to sign him away and give up that high tender comp and lock him up. Especially the late first round type teams.

Right now the concern is LT. Rams' hopes ride largely on that IMO. If they hold it down with good enough play we'll be ok. But right now that's going to be the story of the rest of this season and chances are we'll be relying even more on this defense in the division matchups that remain.
So if we give Williams the high end tender we get a 1st if another team signs him?
 

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That's my understanding yes. I think teams will pay that willingly the way he's ballin.
 

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Disagree with saying that Polite is a marginal player. He's done quite a lot of good things with the snaps he's been given, but he happens to be stuck behind Floyd, who has played almost every snap on defense. I like Okoronkwo and Hollins, just not as much as Polite.

Polite will likely start after Floyd gets a huge contract from another team that we can't match - and with the way that Floyd's been playing, he'll get a huge contract that will result in a third round compensatory pick.

Williams is a restricted free agent, so we should be able to extend him for next year, at least.

Absolutely disagree about inside linebacker. Kiser and Howard are solid, but have limitations. We won't get the blue-chip linebackers (Parsons out of Penn State, Moses out of Alabama), but someone like Nick Bolton (Missouri) would be a welcome addition to our group, someone who can do it all.

Cornerback will be a concern if Long doesn't step up in the absence of Hill. Regardless, I want to draft one; you can never have too many good corners.
 

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Williams is an RFA. But yeah teams will still want to sign him away and give up that high tender comp and lock him up. Especially the late first round type teams.

Right now the concern is LT. Rams' hopes ride largely on that IMO. If they hold it down with good enough play we'll be ok. But that's going to be the story of the rest of this season and chances are we'll be relying even more on this defense in the division matchups that remain.
Unless by a miracle that .....#1- Tremayne Anchrum can be a future top reserve LT (seem highly unlikely @ this point in time), #2-Andrew Whitworth returns to full health in 7 weeks to start in the playoffs & SB @ a high capacity & even commits to playing in 2021(would also be very unlikely), #3- Noteboom turns in a very good 10 gm. performance through the SB & resigns a 4 yr extension before the season ends (very highly unlikely).....#4- Bobby Evans beats Noteboom out of the LT post in the next few weeks & earns the starting position...(Highly unlikely)...... No matter what a talented pure LT prospect for 2022 & beyond is one serious need for Snead
 

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Excellent thread. Never too early to start looking ahead.

If Floyd keeps this up I think the Rams find a way to extend him. He’s a perfect fit in this Staley D. Gonna probably cost us another FA or two that we loved, but it’s all about the greater need/value.

Williams will remain a Ram. He’s already playing at Pro Bowl level and he’s still ascending. If another team offers a 1st, I think the Rams still match their contract offer and keep DW. Such players are not allowed to leave by good teams. Ramsey/Williams are a nightmare for opposing QB’s, even for the likes of Russell Wilson. Need I say more?

Probably means that we lose JJ and Reynolds, possibly a few others, but so what? That was almost certain to happen, anyway. Snead simply will have to replace them via draft and harvest their comp picks in ‘22.

I see ILB or edge with our top 2 picks next draft, the order to be determined by which players fall. I see the ILB as a need to reinforce eliteness in this D and the edge is for insurance just in case of injury to Lewis and for good depth if Lewis remains healthy.

Snead will simply take BPA beyond the 2 mentioned above at positions with least depth. Probably draft a kicker late, too.

Bonamego will be fired and replaced by best available candidate. Duh...

This strategy should result in a balanced team with damned few holes. A team that nobody wants to play and one with legit SB aspirations.

This is the best I can do with my crystal ball as if mid-November.
 

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Excellent thread. Never too early to start looking ahead.

If Floyd keeps this up I think the Rams find a way to extend him. He’s a perfect fit in this Staley D. Gonna probably cost us another FA or two that we loved, but it’s all about the greater need/value.

Williams will remain a Ram. He’s already playing at Pro Bowl level and he’s still ascending. If another team offers a 1st, I think the Rams still match their contract offer and keep DW. Such players are not allowed to leave by good teams. Ramsey/Williams are a nightmare for opposing QB’s, even for the likes of Russell Wilson. Need I say more?

Probably means that we lose JJ and Reynolds, possibly a few others, but so what? That was almost certain to happen, anyway. Snead simply will have to replace them via draft and harvest their comp picks in ‘22.

I see ILB or edge with our top 2 picks next draft, the order to be determined by which players fall. I see the ILB as a need to reinforce eliteness in this D and the edge is for insurance just in case of injury to Lewis and for good depth if Lewis remains healthy.

Snead will simply take BPA beyond the 2 mentioned above at positions with least depth. Probably draft a kicker late, too.

Bonamego will be fired and replaced by best available candidate. Duh...

This strategy should result in a balanced team with damned few holes. A team that nobody wants to play and one with legit SB aspirations.

This is the best I can do with my crystal ball as if mid-November.
I would invest in OT early. Notebook is iffy and what’s behind him is scary. I have some hope in Brewer’s potential-but not a lot. I would look at a speed receiver too, can get this later rounds. I’d hope we don’t make anothe pick on a kicker.
 

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I would invest in OT early. Notebook is iffy and what’s behind him is scary. I have some hope in Brewer’s potential-but not a lot. I would look at a speed receiver too, can get this later rounds. I’d hope we don’t make anothe pick on a kicker.

why not? A 7th round flyer on a very good kicking prospect is well worth it. I want Borregales out of Miami, he’s a stud
 

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I think there is a possibility that Noteboom will be solid at LT even though he really struggled at LG.

If Noteboom fails at LT we might see a reshuffling before playoffs. Maybe Evans at LT or Evans to LG and Edwards at LT. I personally think Edwards can play LT, but who knows. Hopefully Boom can do it. Maybe Whitworth makes it back for a deep playoff run in which we are definitely the mix to compete for a championship. I can also see Corbett kicking to center next year and Evans at R


I like Obo more than polite and Hollins. From my eye, Obo is far more disruptive and was coming into his own before the injury. Hollins and Polite haven’t impressed me. Obo has much more quickness then those two and seems like the perfect fit for cleaning up the QB flushes caused by Donald.

I really like Floyd but if I can’t see us signing him to a big contract. Lewis and others will need to fill his role.

DWill needs to be prioritized.

Reynolds and JJ are gone unfortunately. Unless we can start magically pooping Cash.
 

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We're about to learn a whole lot about Boom. And if he's terrible we're gonna learn a lot about some other dudes lol.

I'm just crossin my fingers at this point. Best case scenario is Kromer makes many of us wrong again. That's my hope at least ok now back to drinking heavily. :ROFLMAO:
 

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We're about to learn a whole lot about Boom. And if he's terrible we're gonna learn a lot about some other dudes lol.

I'm just crossin my fingers at this point. Best case scenario is Kromer makes many of us wrong again. That's my hope at least ok now back to drinking heavily. :ROFLMAO:

Yea who knows, Ive
Heard Kromer talk up Anchrum on podcasts. Maybe if Boom fails Anchrum will get a shot at LT. It would be weird to see a short guy on the edge but apparently he has massively long arms and quick feet along with smarts and leadership so they have a lot of faith in the rook.
 

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I suppose there's no reason to hand a big contract to Floyd when we can man another "disappointment" and get similar production.

But man with the way this d is playing, I want to keep them together. Take some money from our disappointing offense if needed.
 

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I suppose there's no reason to hand a big contract to Floyd when we can man another "disappointment" and get similar production.
Honestly Frantik I don't think that is a sustainable model. I feel like Rams did a great job with those types two years in a row now but at some point they'll get burned doing that.

I do feel good about the way Lewis is shaping up but he's got a ways to go. So if by some miracle they can lock Floyd up I'll be very happy.

Where it gets interesting is if it comes down to Floyd or Williams. And as much as I love what Floyd has done I have to say I'd keep the corner. But the Rams may disagree because losing Williams they will get immediate comp. Glad I'm not making these decisions lol.
 

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Honestly Frantik I don't think that is a sustainable model. I feel like Rams did a great job with those types two years in a row now but at some point they'll get burned doing that.

I do feel good about the way Lewis is shaping up but he's got a ways to go. So if by some miracle they can lock Floyd up I'll be very happy.

Where it gets interesting is if it comes down to Floyd or Williams. And as much as I love what Floyd has done I have to say I'd keep the corner. But the Rams may disagree because losing Williams they will get immediate comp. Glad I'm not making these decisions lol.


I agree, and not to take anything away from Floyd, but I think half our sacks were "coverage" sacks. We will always own Seattle as long as we have a decent secondary because the midget holds onto the ball too long.

Having said that, man I really want to keep this defense together. It'd be awesome if we could sign Floyd for like $10 million per year (wishful thinking) and just tender Williams with a first, which I think is still just a few million. Floyd is sort of the perfect complement to AD because he does so many things well, just nothing elite - but when you have AD drawing triple teams, that's all you need.
 

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I would invest in OT early. Notebook is iffy and what’s behind him is scary. I have some hope in Brewer’s potential-but not a lot. I would look at a speed receiver too, can get this later rounds. I’d hope we don’t make anothe pick on a kicker.
How cool would it be to hit on an Orlando Pace/Jackie Slater level OL for a change? If we can convince AW to stay as OL coach, that would be icing on my fantasy cake.
 

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Yeah man. The very day he retires the Rams need to have a contract in his face to hire him as a coach.
 

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Floyd is already making 10mil. I dont think we can resign him. Especially with the cap dropping next season. I believe with what one poster reported, with what is expected, the rams will have to trim over 20mil just to be under the cap. Floyd looks better than Fowler did, his run stopping is far better. But just as fowler flourished here, I think Floyd is too.

Williams will be a needed signing. Im sure they will put a 2nd round tender on him.

We will have to let Reynolds and Everett walk. Hopkins will need to step up as well as Jefferson.(I would like to see a hell of a lot more of him)

I dont know shit about the draft scouting like guys like @Memento do. I look forward to see who he thinks will be there for us.

I have complete faith in this front office...except for the fucking kicking mystery.