Logically the way it could go down. Unfortunate?

[scifiman]

If the choice was between Mack and Clowney I would take Clowney for sure, Im not in love with Mack.
The Jags resigned Henne, the Bucs brought in McCown, so at least a couple of teams have positioned themselves to NOT have to draft a QB. This QB class is very overrated in my opinion.
I would not trade down as far as six. The idea that 3 of the top 5 picks could go QB is a lot less certain than it was. The pick to me is still T. That pick solves a couple of problems both currently and in the future. If the Rams do trade down we may be looking at Lewan at T instead of the big two.

The thing is with linemen and the nfl is that many times the 3rd or even the 200th pick could end up all-pro. Lewan may not be such a bad option.

 

[scifiman]

Rams have the rights to Quinn for 2 more years.

According to spotrac he is a UFA 2015 season. http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/2015/st.-louis-rams/

 

[CGI_Ram]

According to spotrac he is a UFA 2015 season. http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/2015/st.-louis-rams/

Yeah, it's squirrelly... There is a club option in 2015. Even on your link, it's in the fine print if you look again.

 

[max]

First off, Quinn is going NOWHERE. There is no way in hell Fisher is letting Quinn out the door under any circumstances.

I don't think Mack is a target. He's more of a 3-4 OLB with his hand in the ground. Doesn't seem like a best fit. Also, Softli said he's not a Mack fan, didn't like his tape.

I think if Clowney doesn't go #1, then Snead will trade the pick and we probably end up with Matthews at #6. If Clowney does go #1, then trading the pick will be more difficult and we may end up with Lewan around #8. I just don't see Snead sticking at #2. I think he'll find something.

 

[Memphis Ram]

First, let me say this, our first pick in the draft is really hard for me to figure out. So many variables and good players. Really can't go wrong with whoever they pick.

Lets say we stay at #2 or even trade down to as low as #6

-I love the idea of adding a dynamic WR like Watkins to our WR corps. Watkins, Austin, Bailey/Quick is a good starting duo.

But....Snead has said they want to develop our current WR's, so Watkins might be out.

-Matthews/Robinson could both be good replacements for Long when we let him go in a year or two. They also would be great at guard. Robinson would be the better guard, and Matthews the better tackle if someone goes down.

But.....We already have a "swing tackle" in Saffold and really all our line needs is a LG to be complete, along with guard and tackle depth of course. So they both could be out.

What does that leave early in the 1st?

QB, DE, OLB

Well obviously QB is out right? Bradford is there guy, been stated numerous times.

So that leaves Clowney and Mack for us with wherever our early pick is(#2-#6).

Now if both Clowney and Mack are gone by #6, then at least one of Watkins/Matthews/Robinson will be available and we will grab whichever is available or rated highest if more than one is there.

But if Mack or Clowney is available anywhere we are picking with our first pick, It is looking like one of them will be the choice.

Disclaimer: I prefer Watkins/Robinson/Matthews but it just seems like Mack or Clowney will be the pick right now. It's not what I would do. Unfortunate or not?

Thoughts?

I think that you've totally disregarded the possibility that the Rams might just sit back and take the BPA on their draft board if they can't trade down.

 

[Ramhusker]

Nothing would surprise me this upcoming draft. Clowney at 2 would not shock me at all. I want to trade down a little and get that extra pick or two but I do want to still at least be in the position to take whoever is left between Clowney, Mack, Mathews, Watkins, or Robinson. A trade down and getting one of those guys and I'm good! Hey, who the hells idea was it to move the draft back to May anyways????? I'm going to go crazy waiting that long! :seizure::seizure::seizure:

 

[Tron]

Absolutely no way we go OLB or DE with #2 pick brother! OT or WR and I think that depends what we are given as in trade bait and where we actually draft from. If we draft #2 we go OT probably Jake M.. if we draft 4-6 we Def. going with remaining OT or Watkins. You don't draft a DE or esp. a OLB that high. If your going to gamble with high stakes gamble with the safer commodities which is Mr. Matthews

I would never take a defensive player off the board when it comes to Fisher. They might rate Mack or Clowney or both ahead of the others, we just don't know. I prefer Robinson/Matthews or Watkins. It's just a thought I had.

this is exactly why I am not a GM !!! I have a hard time deciding what to have for breakfast every day !!! Then I just end up having the same thing...toasted everything bagel with cream cheese !!

Ikr, this first pick is especially hard. Glad we have Snead.

I think that you've totally disregarded the possibility that the Rams might just sit back and take the BPA on their draft board if they can't trade down.

I have thought about that, BPA might be Clowney or Mack where they pick. Could be Watkins, Matthews or Robinson as well. Wish we could get a peak at their big board.

 

[The Rammer]

I would never take a defensive player off the board when it comes to Fisher. They might rate Mack or Clowney or both ahead of the others, we just don't know. I prefer Robinson/Matthews or Watkins. It's just a thought I had.

Even if they do have em rated higher I don't see any way they'd draft them with the #2 overall pick. No way Mack could love up to the #2 draft pick ever....Hell, people BÎTCH about That stuff all the time and Clowney?! I'm sure he's intriguing but we have a All Pro DE with Chris Long man... No way they take Clowney...if that's the case we might as well consider the QB's to for #2. All previous drafts Fisher hasn't been in a position like he is now to get a decent Tackle with other team needs a tie breaker for close rated players. Think we secure us a Hog brah! Coach Boudreau going to get his way! Bet you all my ROD money!

 

[Tron]

Even if they do have em rated higher I don't see any way they'd draft them with the #2 overall pick. No way Mack could love up to the #2 draft pick ever....Hell, people BÎTCH about That stuff all the time and Clowney?! I'm sure he's intriguing but we have a All Pro DE with Chris Long man... No way they take Clowney...if that's the case we might as well consider the QB's to for #2. All previous drafts Fisher hasn't been in a position like he is now to get a decent Tackle with other team needs a tie breaker for close rated players. Think we secure us a Hog brah! Coach Boudreau going to get his way! Bet you all my ROD money!

Still not ruling Clowney or Mack out of the conversation. As I have said, it's not the way I would go, but I can't rule it out from happening.

I already bet in the sportsbook lol. Bet on both Matthews and Watkins because I couldn't decide who would be the Rams first pick.

 

[The Rammer]

Still not ruling Clowney or Mack out of the conversation. As I have said, it's not the way I would go, but I can't rule it out from happening.

I already bet in the sportsbook lol. Bet on both Matthews and Watkins because I couldn't decide who would be the Rams first pick.

Going to bet now let's see what they have.... Good so far away

 

[BigRamFan]

Doesn't matter how many have been drafted in the past. If the ones you have aren't getting the job done, you have to keep trying until you get it right. And that doesn't even take into consideration that a team should never quit trying to make any/every position better.

From my view in the cheap seats, we only have 2 'prospects' at WR....Austin & Bailey. Pettis is what Pettis is....a decent #4. But Givens & Quick are little more than 'suspects' at this point.

And to be honest, I'm not entirely sure of Bailey. At this time last year, I had high hopes for Givens in the '13 season after what he showed in his rookie '12 season. But he regressed significantly, IMO. And he showed a lot more in his rookie year than Bailey did last year.

The OL definitely needs attention. But no more so than WR.

Respectfully disagree with the bolded. It has been reported that Givens battled nagging injuries most of the year. I think that and Sam's absence affected Givens play significantly last year, but his route running still seems to need work. If he is going to be a legit #2 WR he needs to be able to run more than the 9. As for the comparison between the rookie years of Givens vs. Bailey I think that once he was given a shot Bailey showed much more promise of becoming more of a complete WR than Givens and displayed both a willingness to go over the middle and better hands than did Givens. Bottom line, IMO, is there is room for both of them to be successful on this team and it's still to early to make a call on either.

 

[BigRamFan]

First off, Quinn is going NOWHERE. There is no way in hell Fisher is letting Quinn out the door under any circumstances.

I don't think Mack is a target. He's more of a 3-4 OLB with his hand in the ground. Doesn't seem like a best fit. Also, Softli said he's not a Mack fan, didn't like his tape.

This is enough to make me want to draft Mack!

 

[Angry Ram]

Doesn't matter how many have been drafted in the past. If the ones you have aren't getting the job done, you have to keep trying until you get it right. And that doesn't even take into consideration that a team should never quit trying to make any/every position better.

From my view in the cheap seats, we only have 2 'prospects' at WR....Austin & Bailey. Pettis is what Pettis is....a decent #4. But Givens & Quick are little more than 'suspects' at this point.

And to be honest, I'm not entirely sure of Bailey. At this time last year, I had high hopes for Givens in the '13 season after what he showed in his rookie '12 season. But he regressed significantly, IMO. And he showed a lot more in his rookie year than Bailey did last year.

The OL definitely needs attention. But no more so than WR.

You don't give Tavon and Sted more playing time toward the end of the season only to take another rookie who'll need his own playing time.

Chris Givens had a good rookie season that offsets his down 2nd year, he deserves to get another crack at it. Just because he regressed doesn't mean he needs to be replaced.

Everyone knows what Brian Quick is. He wasn't supposed to be a star his 1st and 2nd years, just gradually getting better. Which is what is happening.

And I never said they will quit on upgrading any position, all I'm saying is right now, based on what they are building and the biggest unknowns are, WR is unlikely with the 2nd pick.

 

[scifiman]

Yeah, it's squirrelly... There is a club option in 2015. Even on your link, it's in the fine print if you look again.

Did not see that club option thing. That at least makes me feel better about not losing him after this year.

 

[scifiman]

You don't give Tavon and Sted more playing time toward the end of the season only to take another rookie who'll need his own playing time.

Chris Givens had a good rookie season that offsets his down 2nd year, he deserves to get another crack at it. Just because he regressed doesn't mean he needs to be replaced.

Everyone knows what Brian Quick is. He wasn't supposed to be a star his 1st and 2nd years, just gradually getting better. Which is what is happening.

And I never said they will quit on upgrading any position, all I'm saying is right now, based on what they are building and the biggest unknowns are, WR is unlikely with the 2nd pick.

I agree angry that the rams probably would not draft a wr in the 1st round except if that was Watkins and only if you can draft a quality OL or other player as well in the 1st round. I am not so sure we can place all the wr problems on them. The qb situation was not ideal last year. Givens issues may have more to do with who was playing opposite him and their abilities.
All I know is we need OL help and secondary help as our biggest needs from what I see. And the rams may draft a wr in the later rounds as well as a qb.