Lions lost free agent review: A'Shawn Robinson

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This is a old article From a Die hard Lion fan who seems to be as knowledgeable about his Lions as we are about our Rams. There are some interesting tidbits on what Robinson was able to accomplish in Detroit Despite Patricia.​

He and Patricia were not friends to say the least, and according to Robinson, Patricia told
him" he would ruin his career." (Robinson was one of many Detroit players who disliked Patricia.)

Here's Hoping A'Shawn now in an environment of excellence will become what he was about to become before being
derailed by one of the worst HC's in recent memory.

Lions lost free agent review: A'Shawn Robinson

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With the season behind us, we can now measure the performance of each of the players the Lions lost last year and the players they brought in to replace them. We would look at if the Lions were in the right or the wrong end of the free-agent class last year. If you missed it, here are the ones we have hit on so far: Graham Glasgow, Devon Kennard. This time we’ll be highlighting the loss of A’Shawn Robinson.

The Lions went through an almost complete rehaul of their defensive line last year. Outside of Trey Flowers, the defensive line was going to unrecognizable to the 2019 squad, who had a down year compared to the impressive 2018 season when the Lions had one of the better run defenses in the league.

Robinson had become a fan favorite due to his tough streak, versatility, and the fact that he looked 10 years older than he really was. He started slowly in his rookie season, but he found his footing in 2017, where he went on to play 68% of the team’s defensive snaps, notching a career-high 27 total pressures and added a pick-six for good measure.

Things were looking up for the young defensive tackle showing he could become a catalyst in the trenches until Matt Patricia came into town. Even though Robinson saw one of the best pro seasons in 2018, earning accolades as a superior run defender, he saw his snaps almost cut in half and only started 16 games in 2018 and 2019.

The Lions decided to go a different direction this past year and not retain the man-child behemoth. Instead, Robinson signed with the Los Angeles Rams for 2 years and $17 million to play along with the NFL’s best defensive tackle, Aaron Donald.

Later it turned out Patricia and Robinson didn’t quite see eye to eye. The generally silent Robinson went on Twitter calling out the former Lions coach.


View: https://twitter.com/AshawnRobinson/status/1332781226181206020?s=20




Sadly, Robinson dealt with a cardiovascular condition that left him sidelined for half the season. When he returned, he only averaged about 15 snaps a game and notched a career-low 13 tackles. In the playoffs, he a little rejuvenation recording six tackles and a forced fumble.

It is hard to say if Robinson would’ve found success with another stint in Detroit, especially with how poor the defense played in 2020, but what it mostly looks like is he had no ambition to stay with Patricia at the helm.

With Detroit cleaning house on the defensive line, they needed to find someone who could play the multiple roles Robinson used to fill. They didn’t have to look any further than their own division signing former Chicago Bear Nick Williams to 2 years and $10 million contract.

At this point in his career in 2019, Williams had a hard time finding his foot in the NFL, playing mostly part-time roles with the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chicago Bears. When Akiem Hicks landed on injured reserve, the Bears called Williams’ number, and he stepped up to the plate playing in all 16 games and racked up 42 tackles, nine quarterback hits, and six sacks in 2019.

With an impressive year, Detroit was hoping to bring that success to their defense. Williams had the versatility to play anywhere on the defensive line and pass rush and run defend, unlike Robinson, who was mostly a run-stuffer by trade. On the flip side, though, they were getting a player that is five years older than Robinson and only a year of true production; some saw this as overpay.

Williams went to play in 14 games and nearly half of Detroit’s defensive snaps, tallying 16 tackles and one sack in 2020, not exactly what Detroit was hoping for from one of their top free-agent signings. Still, then again, Detroit’s 2020 defense was horrendous. He did grade out at the Lions ninth-best defender according to PFF, and he did bring a better pressure aspect than Robinson, but he only had three more tackles than Robinson, and he missed half the season.

Surely, Detroit was banking how Da’Shawn Hand to fill in those missing pieces, but once again, he found issues with staying healthy. Outside of his stellar rookie season, Hand has found quite a few issues on staying on the field with a multitude of injuries that has landed him on injured reserve every year of his career.

Also, the Lions tagged Jashon Cornell in the seventh round in 2020 to repair the dismantled defensive line and maybe supplement in the vacated spot. Still, he suffered an Achilles injury in training camp before Detroit knew what they hand.

Williams played admirably last year in Detroit, especially with a non-friendly defensive scheme, but with a new regime in place, it is hard to see if he makes it back on the team. With how close Detroit is to the cap, Williams’ cut almost seems inevitable, clearing $4.7 million in cap room. He would be a nice depth piece, but the production and salary make this an easy decision for general manager Brad Holmes.

On the other end, Robinson’s future is up in the air as well with the Rams. He currently carries a $5.25 million cap hit, but the team can save $3.75 million if released with a post-June 1 designation. The Rams could do some cap magic and try to hold to Robinson on a lower price, but they are currently in the hole about $35 million, thanks in large part to Jared Goff’s dead cap hit, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if they move on from Robinson.

With the bad blood between Patricia and Robinson probably being the ultimate decider in Robinson’s departure, it was best for both parties to go their separate ways. Robinson suffered a serious cardiovascular issue, so we cannot completely measure how effective Robinson was with the Rams, but he did show some flashes in the playoffs.

On paper, the Lions tried their best in replacing him with Williams, who came off a career year and could fill in all over the defensive line. It looked like an underrated move to kick off the season. Disappointingly, the scheme wanted their defensive tackles to clog the lanes and contain instead of pressure which was Williams’ specialty, and it clearly did him no favors.

With the case of Robinson’s health and Williams’ status with the new regime, hard to pinpoint if the Lions made the right move or the wrong move. We will be able to tell when the new league year starts later this month.
 

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This is a old article From a Die hard Lion fan who seems to be as knowledgeable about his Lions as we are about our Rams. There are some interesting tidbits on what Robinson was able to accomplish in Detroit Despite Patricia.​

He and Patricia were not friends to say the least, and according to Robinson, Patricia told
him" he would ruin his career." (Robinson was one of many Detroit players who disliked Patricia.)

Here's Hoping A'Shawn now in an environment of excellence will become what he was about to become before being
derailed by one of the worst HC's in recent memory.

Lions lost free agent review: A'Shawn Robinson

usatsi_9743592.jpg





With the season behind us, we can now measure the performance of each of the players the Lions lost last year and the players they brought in to replace them. We would look at if the Lions were in the right or the wrong end of the free-agent class last year. If you missed it, here are the ones we have hit on so far: Graham Glasgow, Devon Kennard. This time we’ll be highlighting the loss of A’Shawn Robinson.

The Lions went through an almost complete rehaul of their defensive line last year. Outside of Trey Flowers, the defensive line was going to unrecognizable to the 2019 squad, who had a down year compared to the impressive 2018 season when the Lions had one of the better run defenses in the league.

Robinson had become a fan favorite due to his tough streak, versatility, and the fact that he looked 10 years older than he really was. He started slowly in his rookie season, but he found his footing in 2017, where he went on to play 68% of the team’s defensive snaps, notching a career-high 27 total pressures and added a pick-six for good measure.

Things were looking up for the young defensive tackle showing he could become a catalyst in the trenches until Matt Patricia came into town. Even though Robinson saw one of the best pro seasons in 2018, earning accolades as a superior run defender, he saw his snaps almost cut in half and only started 16 games in 2018 and 2019.

The Lions decided to go a different direction this past year and not retain the man-child behemoth. Instead, Robinson signed with the Los Angeles Rams for 2 years and $17 million to play along with the NFL’s best defensive tackle, Aaron Donald.

Later it turned out Patricia and Robinson didn’t quite see eye to eye. The generally silent Robinson went on Twitter calling out the former Lions coach.


View: https://twitter.com/AshawnRobinson/status/1332781226181206020?s=20





Sadly, Robinson dealt with a cardiovascular condition that left him sidelined for half the season. When he returned, he only averaged about 15 snaps a game and notched a career-low 13 tackles. In the playoffs, he a little rejuvenation recording six tackles and a forced fumble.

It is hard to say if Robinson would’ve found success with another stint in Detroit, especially with how poor the defense played in 2020, but what it mostly looks like is he had no ambition to stay with Patricia at the helm.

With Detroit cleaning house on the defensive line, they needed to find someone who could play the multiple roles Robinson used to fill. They didn’t have to look any further than their own division signing former Chicago Bear Nick Williams to 2 years and $10 million contract.

At this point in his career in 2019, Williams had a hard time finding his foot in the NFL, playing mostly part-time roles with the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chicago Bears. When Akiem Hicks landed on injured reserve, the Bears called Williams’ number, and he stepped up to the plate playing in all 16 games and racked up 42 tackles, nine quarterback hits, and six sacks in 2019.

With an impressive year, Detroit was hoping to bring that success to their defense. Williams had the versatility to play anywhere on the defensive line and pass rush and run defend, unlike Robinson, who was mostly a run-stuffer by trade. On the flip side, though, they were getting a player that is five years older than Robinson and only a year of true production; some saw this as overpay.

Williams went to play in 14 games and nearly half of Detroit’s defensive snaps, tallying 16 tackles and one sack in 2020, not exactly what Detroit was hoping for from one of their top free-agent signings. Still, then again, Detroit’s 2020 defense was horrendous. He did grade out at the Lions ninth-best defender according to PFF, and he did bring a better pressure aspect than Robinson, but he only had three more tackles than Robinson, and he missed half the season.

Surely, Detroit was banking how Da’Shawn Hand to fill in those missing pieces, but once again, he found issues with staying healthy. Outside of his stellar rookie season, Hand has found quite a few issues on staying on the field with a multitude of injuries that has landed him on injured reserve every year of his career.

Also, the Lions tagged Jashon Cornell in the seventh round in 2020 to repair the dismantled defensive line and maybe supplement in the vacated spot. Still, he suffered an Achilles injury in training camp before Detroit knew what they hand.

Williams played admirably last year in Detroit, especially with a non-friendly defensive scheme, but with a new regime in place, it is hard to see if he makes it back on the team. With how close Detroit is to the cap, Williams’ cut almost seems inevitable, clearing $4.7 million in cap room. He would be a nice depth piece, but the production and salary make this an easy decision for general manager Brad Holmes.

On the other end, Robinson’s future is up in the air as well with the Rams. He currently carries a $5.25 million cap hit, but the team can save $3.75 million if released with a post-June 1 designation. The Rams could do some cap magic and try to hold to Robinson on a lower price, but they are currently in the hole about $35 million, thanks in large part to Jared Goff’s dead cap hit, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if they move on from Robinson.

With the bad blood between Patricia and Robinson probably being the ultimate decider in Robinson’s departure, it was best for both parties to go their separate ways. Robinson suffered a serious cardiovascular issue, so we cannot completely measure how effective Robinson was with the Rams, but he did show some flashes in the playoffs.

On paper, the Lions tried their best in replacing him with Williams, who came off a career year and could fill in all over the defensive line. It looked like an underrated move to kick off the season. Disappointingly, the scheme wanted their defensive tackles to clog the lanes and contain instead of pressure which was Williams’ specialty, and it clearly did him no favors.

With the case of Robinson’s health and Williams’ status with the new regime, hard to pinpoint if the Lions made the right move or the wrong move. We will be able to tell when the new league year starts later this month.


The Lions Loss was the Rams GAIN (A HUGE ONE!)!!!

I really think Robinson will prove to be a FORCE next to AD this season!!!

Thank You Lions!!!
 

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Mean looking dude. Like his name could be "Otis". Has the bald head too. Hope he plays as mean as he looks for us.
 

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"Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane" comes to mind with this dude. He looks the part but all I want to see is him making a difference out there.

Signs FA contract then misses most of the year with a cardio condition? Then returns to get pushed around like a JAG but hey this year will be different right? Right... Ugh.

Hopefully I'll be eating a large plate of crow with him. :laugh4:
 

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I would think that a cardio issue would have long lingering affects. Probably not playing at 100% last year.
 

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Some cardio problems can potentially be fixed with diet, exercise and weight loss.

We know he has lost weight which probably means he fixed his diet and has exercised.

I'm expecting big things.
 

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..... and I'm guessing the Rams organization is too because they didn't cut him June 1st to save the money.
 

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"Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane" comes to mind with this dude. He looks the part but all I want to see is him making a difference out there.

Signs FA contract then misses most of the year with a cardio condition? Then returns to get pushed around like a JAG but hey this year will be different right? Right... Ugh.

Hopefully I'll be eating a large plate of crow with him. :laugh4:
Well your right on track for the most part,but then you fell off the Wagon.
Just to keep you back on track & go from there.
Brockers resigning was HUGE for The Rams after he signed with the Ravens.The Rams would have been up CRAP CREEK without him!!!! A’ Robinson would have totally been exposed & last season would have been UGLY.
In 2021 though he should look better in the Lockeroom.He has lost 20lbs. He is comfortable coming back with AD,SJD69, & Gaines. Brockers will not be missed much because of him & Bobby Brown coming in.I like E.Brown as well.
I need to get passes for training camp.I did go to SOFI & watched the DLline group.Robinson will take on a MENTORING role.He cares & gets into the games.YES he needs to work hard & perform to a much higher level.
You can have your doubts,but last season you could see how he was on the sideline.I try to stay positive with players & dude would engage with teammates.I liked that about him.At first he was still trying to fit in & catch-up with his condition & play.
 

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..... and I'm guessing the Rams organization is too because they didn't cut him June 1st to save the money.
Yeah - The Rams had no problems with A” Robinson. Henderson is an excellent DL COACH!! He is just like one of the Players.He is straight up with his players & expects effort from them.He is hands on & gets physical with them.It’s cool to watch. They put the work in.
The Rams DL looked real good last season.The rotation was good.Fox & Brockers both have been a Big Part of the group.AD & SJD69 get to lead the way.A” Robinson is Ganster.He is a Bad Azz looking Man.Just makes the group look tougher. The weight loss says a lot.His acknowledgement of his conditioning & play tells you he is committed to getting better.He thanks playing with M. Brockers for helping on showing him how a Career DT prepares on & off the field.
 

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Robinson is one of the guys I will keep a close eye on in TC. Corbett and Evans will also get my scrutiny.
 

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I was hoping we would draft him out of college. I'm thrilled he is on this team. If he's healthy, he will be a great fit. I think yall are forgetting....he showed up to mini camp in great fucking shape. He's ready to roll! He put his nose to the grind stone and has something to prove! 94 is gonna be a beast for us gents.

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He did change his diet and workouts. I think he lost some weight and gained muscle. He came into camp in good shape last year. Covid and the heart issue held him back. He expressed how he really wants to play well for the Rams. He likes playing here. I expect a great year for the BIG A.

I think it was in his presser that he talked about getting a new chef/diet change cutting out the carbs and wanting to play well for the Rams and AD....
 

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I saw a stat last season that A’Shawn Robinson was nearly twice as effective as Brockers on a per snap basis.

That doesn’t mean Brockers wasn’t good or that Robinson could have replaced all of Brockers snaps, but with all this time to rehab and get his body right, I expect Robinson to have as big a jump in production as Leonard Floyd did last year.