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Les Snead’s lack of vision has hurt the Rams offense​

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Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 10:10 AM PDT·4 min read
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It goes without saying that Les Snead is one of the best general managers in the NFL. The Super Bowl champ is known for his big trades that brought Matthew Stafford, Jalen Ramsey, and Von Miller to L.A. but the foundation for his championship squad was built through the draft. Yes, we know about the importance of adding talent in different ways but the selections of Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp were critical in their success. It was a team supplemented by Day 2 and 3 picks like Rob Havenstein, Van Jefferson, Jordan Fuller, and Greg Gaines, amongst others who helped the Rams get over the line. However, since then, the Rams’ offense has performed below standard for the past two years. Let’s take a look at why.

The first problem starts with the offensive line. Obviously, we know that since Andrew Whitworth retired, Snead’s solutions to the left tackle position have not lived up to expectations. The problem was that outside of Rob Haverstein, Whitworth’s replacement, Joe Noteboom, was arguably the best lineman on the team. The interior of the offensive line has remained a mess and it seems that in the past four years, Snead has failed to address it. Yes, he drafted Steve Avila, who looks like a home run pick, but one can not ignore the multiple misses that might’ve caused Stafford to go from Super Bowl champ to chronically injured. Players like Creed Humphrey, Daniel Faalele, and Jamaree Salyer were available but didn’t fancy Snead’s taste. More importantly, Snead’s refusal to bring in veteran players to supplement the struggling line is both uncharacteristic and unacceptable.

Quite frankly, he doesn’t value interior linemen. He’s given big deals to Whitworth and Havenstein but Snead believes that he’s able to replace linemen on the cheap, allowing him the resources to spend money elsewhere. Since the Rams moved back to Los Angeles, Snead let stud linemen such as Rodger Saffold Austin Corbett go after the Rams’ Super Bowl runs and has yet to see the individual production of their replacements match what those two did.
However, the offensive line isn’t the only issue. When we think of legendary wide receiver groups, we notice a pattern. Each receiver brings a different element to the room that causes mismatch nightmares for defenses. The 1999 Rams are a prime example. They had the route-running specialist in Isaac Bruce, the target man that can outshake and out-muscle DBs in Torrey Holt, the slot threat in Ricky Proehl and the speedster in Az-Zahir Hakim.

Snead hasn’t done a good job supplementing Kupp with talent that attacks in different ways. Puka Nacua is similar to Kupp, and Van Jefferson is gone and Ben Skowronek continues to be ineffective. Tutu Atwell is a different type of receiver with his speed.
The Rams could’ve drafted DK Metcalf or Dionte Johnson but picked Taylor Rapp instead. They could’ve had Terry McLaurin but went with Darrell Henderson Jr. The irritating part is that when the Rams won the Super Bowl, Kupp was complemented by Robert Woods and Odell Beckham Jr, two receivers that bring something different for the QB to use.

The last part has been the Rams’ approach to the running back position since the departure of Todd Gurley. Listen, I get it. You spent a lot of money on him. You didn’t feel like you got a good return on your investment. I understand. However, since the Rams realized Cam Akers’ Achilles injury in 2021 would mean that they would have to search for another running back, they’ve gone with boring, conservative selections that seem to align with their plan to attack the salary cap instead of building a fearsome rushing attack. Players like Henderson, Jake Funk and Zach Evans haven’t impressed, and Kyren Williams feels like what an average running back looks like. No pop, no pizzaz. Just inside runs.

Long story short, in the post-Super Bowl era, Snead has not done enough to address the offense. Yes, he made some excellent decisions to draft some young, promising defenders but his lack of firepower on offense has directly contributed to the Rams’ lack of success. The 2024 offseason scouting plans and ideas for acquisitions must have an offensive focus or you could kiss another year goodbye.
 

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stud linemen such as Rodger Saffold Austin Corbett
I don’t believe that the words “stud linemen” and “Austin Corbett” belong in the same sentence. Saffold was good, but hardly a “stud” either.

Let’s hope that picking Avila is a sign of things to come. We need to build an elite OL to both prolong Stafford’s career and protect his successor.
 

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I’m gonna be real here this article seems to be written by someone that has a bone to pick with Snead/the Rams.

It mentions the lack of attention paid to the interior oline. Disagree there…Dotson is doing great and that was an in season trade by Snead. Avila great draft pick.

Then it gets into that BS draft pick game where you could’ve took this player before that player which every team in the nfl could do with 75%+ of their draft picks.

The only lack of vision that I’ve had a big issue with is the back up quarterback position….
 

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Everything is easy to point out in hindsight. It's why I generally dislike sports writers. Snead has had misses and hits and every competent gm deals with the same failures and successes. When push comes to shove the rams have been poached at every single administrative position. That should be all the viable proof we need when it comes to how he's doing his job.
 

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Les Snead’s lack of vision has hurt the Rams offense​

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Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 10:10 AM PDT·4 min read
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It goes without saying that Les Snead is one of the best general managers in the NFL. The Super Bowl champ is known for his big trades that brought Matthew Stafford, Jalen Ramsey, and Von Miller to L.A. but the foundation for his championship squad was built through the draft. Yes, we know about the importance of adding talent in different ways but the selections of Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp were critical in their success. It was a team supplemented by Day 2 and 3 picks like Rob Havenstein, Van Jefferson, Jordan Fuller, and Greg Gaines, amongst others who helped the Rams get over the line. However, since then, the Rams’ offense has performed below standard for the past two years. Let’s take a look at why.

The first problem starts with the offensive line. Obviously, we know that since Andrew Whitworth retired, Snead’s solutions to the left tackle position have not lived up to expectations. The problem was that outside of Rob Haverstein, Whitworth’s replacement, Joe Noteboom, was arguably the best lineman on the team. The interior of the offensive line has remained a mess and it seems that in the past four years, Snead has failed to address it. Yes, he drafted Steve Avila, who looks like a home run pick, but one can not ignore the multiple misses that might’ve caused Stafford to go from Super Bowl champ to chronically injured. Players like Creed Humphrey, Daniel Faalele, and Jamaree Salyer were available but didn’t fancy Snead’s taste. More importantly, Snead’s refusal to bring in veteran players to supplement the struggling line is both uncharacteristic and unacceptable.

Quite frankly, he doesn’t value interior linemen. He’s given big deals to Whitworth and Havenstein but Snead believes that he’s able to replace linemen on the cheap, allowing him the resources to spend money elsewhere. Since the Rams moved back to Los Angeles, Snead let stud linemen such as Rodger Saffold Austin Corbett go after the Rams’ Super Bowl runs and has yet to see the individual production of their replacements match what those two did.
However, the offensive line isn’t the only issue. When we think of legendary wide receiver groups, we notice a pattern. Each receiver brings a different element to the room that causes mismatch nightmares for defenses. The 1999 Rams are a prime example. They had the route-running specialist in Isaac Bruce, the target man that can outshake and out-muscle DBs in Torrey Holt, the slot threat in Ricky Proehl and the speedster in Az-Zahir Hakim.

Snead hasn’t done a good job supplementing Kupp with talent that attacks in different ways. Puka Nacua is similar to Kupp, and Van Jefferson is gone and Ben Skowronek continues to be ineffective. Tutu Atwell is a different type of receiver with his speed.
The Rams could’ve drafted DK Metcalf or Dionte Johnson but picked Taylor Rapp instead. They could’ve had Terry McLaurin but went with Darrell Henderson Jr. The irritating part is that when the Rams won the Super Bowl, Kupp was complemented by Robert Woods and Odell Beckham Jr, two receivers that bring something different for the QB to use.

The last part has been the Rams’ approach to the running back position since the departure of Todd Gurley. Listen, I get it. You spent a lot of money on him. You didn’t feel like you got a good return on your investment. I understand. However, since the Rams realized Cam Akers’ Achilles injury in 2021 would mean that they would have to search for another running back, they’ve gone with boring, conservative selections that seem to align with their plan to attack the salary cap instead of building a fearsome rushing attack. Players like Henderson, Jake Funk and Zach Evans haven’t impressed, and Kyren Williams feels like what an average running back looks like. No pop, no pizzaz. Just inside runs.

Long story short, in the post-Super Bowl era, Snead has not done enough to address the offense. Yes, he made some excellent decisions to draft some young, promising defenders but his lack of firepower on offense has directly contributed to the Rams’ lack of success. The 2024 offseason scouting plans and ideas for acquisitions must have an offensive focus or you could kiss another year goodbye.

And this year, he didn't even draft a WR until what, the 5th round? And is that Puka whatever dude even any good??
 

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PFF ranks Rams’ offensive line 26th in NFL through 8 weeks

Cameron DaSilva
Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 10:56 AM PDT·2 min read

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The Los Angeles Rams made changes to their offensive line this season after a disastrous 2022 campaign. They let David Edwards leave in free agency, benched Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom, traded for Kevin Dotson, drafted Steve Avila and promoted Alaric Jackson to the starting lineup, which left Rob Havenstein as the only returning starter who played the same position as last season.
The results have been mixed, however, despite undoubtedly being better than last year’s group. According to Pro Football Focus, the Rams’ pass-blocking grade of 47.8 ranks 30th in the NFL, though their run-blocking grade (64.9) is the 12th-best.
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PFF ranked every offensive line through eight weeks this season and the Rams came in at No. 26.
  • Right tackle Rob Havenstein missed the Rams’ Week 8 loss to the Cowboys with a calf injury and was replaced by Joseph Noteboom at right tackle.
  • The Rams gave up 15 total pressures on just 35 dropbacks and, as a result, recorded the fifth-lowest pass-blocking efficiency rating in the league in Week 8.
Best player: Kevin Dotson
  • Dotson’s 85.3 overall grade leads all guards in the NFL this season.
On a positive note, Dotson has been a fantastic addition at right guard. As PFF mentioned above, he’s the highest-graded guard in the NFL this year, which makes the Rams look smart for acquiring him from the Steelers just before the season began.
Jackson has been up-and-down at left tackle, Avila has looked like a stud at left guard and Havenstein is as consistent as they come at right tackle. The hope is that Havenstein doesn’t miss a second straight game with a calf injury, but his status remains up in the air for Week 9.
The Rams can’t do much to improve their offensive line at this point in the season but at least the schedule lightens up a little bit moving forward after facing some excellent defensive fronts already this year.
 

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And didn't mention the ...uh...total lack of money and draft capital it takes to grab a vet.
 

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I have posted this simple comment before:
Consider the Source

Who is Brock Vierra?
He is the author of this article but what is his background, experience and qualifications?

Short Answer:
He has no background, experience or qualifications. He's just a football fan, with an opinion.
Like every single one of us here, except he is much younger than most of us.

Brock Vierra graduated from college two years ago. @Loyal has not purchased new underwear in three years.

His degree was in Film/Cinema/Video Studies; and graduated with a solid 3.5 GPA.
Much like John Belushi's character in Animal House, @OldSchool had a GPA of "0.0"

Brock Nakamura-Vierra is a freelance sports-writer from Hawaii; and he has less than 350 followers on X.
He is also on Linked-in where he has 22 connections.
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I have posted this simple comment before:
Consider the Source

Who is Brock Vierra?
He is the author of this article but what is his background, experience and qualifications?

Short Answer:
He has no background, experience or qualifications. He's just a football fan, with an opinion.
Like every single one of us here, except he is much younger than most of us.

Brock Vierra graduated from college two years ago. @Loyal has not purchased new underwear in three years.

His degree was in Film/Cinema/Video Studies; and graduated with a solid 3.5 GPA.
Much like John Belushi's character in Animal House, @OldSchool had a GPA of "0.0"

Brock Nakamura-Vierra is a freelance sports-writer from Hawaii; and he has less than 350 followers on X. He is also on Linked-in where he has 22 connections.
@AvengerRam connects with more than 22 women on a busy weekend ... some of them are consensual.
FACTS!
 

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The first words that caught my eye was Torrey Holt.... figured if he can't bother to spell Torry Holt's name right I can't be bothered to read some amateur shit he writes.
 

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If you want to criticize Les there's plenty of legitimate options. You could start with the RB room, continue on with the TE room, and certainly he deserves some wrt the OL over the years. But he did actually flip his tendency with the OL this year and it paid off immediately with Avila. Will that continue?

I think instead of shaping the article to attack someone else in order to make excuses for Stafford (who definitely shares criticism this year and last with the line) he should have made it more along the lines of "have Les and Sean changed their OL approach." Because prior to this past draft they clearly had a belief in drafting mid to late round OL and coaching them up with a pipeline strategy. Or was Avila a rare nod that they needed a lineman who can start now and they'll go right back to what they've always done.

McVay is one of the best in the league of minimizing OL weaknesses because he doesn't rely on the run game unless it's there and working. He'll quickly switch to his bread and butter which is supplementing shots downfield with short pass game gainers that help move the chains. But I think in spite of that they have as a duo not done a good enough job stocking this unit and it has hurt McVay's end product as well as his "genius" status.

This next draft is going to be very illuminating though, no doubt about it.
 

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I don’t believe that the words “stud linemen” and “Austin Corbett” belong in the same sentence. Saffold was good, but hardly a “stud” either.

Let’s hope that picking Avila is a sign of things to come. We need to build an elite OL to both prolong Stafford’s career and protect his successor.
On what planet is this dude not a stud lineman? He definitely was in terms of Rams linemen over recent years. There was a huge dropoff when we let him walk. I think it cost us our 2019 season.
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PFF ranks Rams’ offensive line 26th in NFL through 8 weeks

Cameron DaSilva
Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 10:56 AM PDT·2 min read
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The Los Angeles Rams made changes to their offensive line this season after a disastrous 2022 campaign. They let David Edwards leave in free agency, benched Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom, traded for Kevin Dotson, drafted Steve Avila and promoted Alaric Jackson to the starting lineup, which left Rob Havenstein as the only returning starter who played the same position as last season.

The results have been mixed, however, despite undoubtedly being better than last year’s group. According to Pro Football Focus, the Rams’ pass-blocking grade of 47.8 ranks 30th in the NFL, though their run-blocking grade (64.9) is the 12th-best.
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PFF ranked every offensive line through eight weeks this season and the Rams came in at No. 26.

  • Right tackle Rob Havenstein missed the Rams’ Week 8 loss to the Cowboys with a calf injury and was replaced by Joseph Noteboom at right tackle.
  • The Rams gave up 15 total pressures on just 35 dropbacks and, as a result, recorded the fifth-lowest pass-blocking efficiency rating in the league in Week 8.
Best player: Kevin Dotson

  • Dotson’s 85.3 overall grade leads all guards in the NFL this season.
On a positive note, Dotson has been a fantastic addition at right guard. As PFF mentioned above, he’s the highest-graded guard in the NFL this year, which makes the Rams look smart for acquiring him from the Steelers just before the season began.
Jackson has been up-and-down at left tackle, Avila has looked like a stud at left guard and Havenstein is as consistent as they come at right tackle. The hope is that Havenstein doesn’t miss a second straight game with a calf injury, but his status remains up in the air for Week 9.
The Rams can’t do much to improve their offensive line at this point in the season but at least the schedule lightens up a little bit moving forward after facing some excellent defensive fronts already this year.
It’s difficult to say how the line is pass blocking. They got two of the best pass rushing teams in the league and both just came off a bye week. Plus that huge lead that the Cowboys had didn’t do anything to help the Olines pass blocking.
 

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PFF ranks Rams’ offensive line 26th in NFL through 8 weeks

Cameron DaSilva
Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 10:56 AM PDT·2 min read

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The Los Angeles Rams made changes to their offensive line this season after a disastrous 2022 campaign. They let David Edwards leave in free agency, benched Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom, traded for Kevin Dotson, drafted Steve Avila and promoted Alaric Jackson to the starting lineup, which left Rob Havenstein as the only returning starter who played the same position as last season.
The results have been mixed, however, despite undoubtedly being better than last year’s group. According to Pro Football Focus, the Rams’ pass-blocking grade of 47.8 ranks 30th in the NFL, though their run-blocking grade (64.9) is the 12th-best.
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PFF ranked every offensive line through eight weeks this season and the Rams came in at No. 26.
  • Right tackle Rob Havenstein missed the Rams’ Week 8 loss to the Cowboys with a calf injury and was replaced by Joseph Noteboom at right tackle.
  • The Rams gave up 15 total pressures on just 35 dropbacks and, as a result, recorded the fifth-lowest pass-blocking efficiency rating in the league in Week 8.
Best player: Kevin Dotson
  • Dotson’s 85.3 overall grade leads all guards in the NFL this season.
On a positive note, Dotson has been a fantastic addition at right guard. As PFF mentioned above, he’s the highest-graded guard in the NFL this year, which makes the Rams look smart for acquiring him from the Steelers just before the season began.
Jackson has been up-and-down at left tackle, Avila has looked like a stud at left guard and Havenstein is as consistent as they come at right tackle. The hope is that Havenstein doesn’t miss a second straight game with a calf injury, but his status remains up in the air for Week 9.
The Rams can’t do much to improve their offensive line at this point in the season but at least the schedule lightens up a little bit moving forward after facing some excellent defensive fronts already this year.
Admittedly I don’t study the OL while watching or after a game. But by all accounts we’ve got 2 good OGs in Avila and Dotson. With Avila hopefully rapidly ascend ing to great. We have a good (not great) RT. What we don’t have and desperately need is a stud LT. In addition we have a stopgap OC. The Rams need to put serious effort towards vastly improving LT/OC this off-season or the offense will continue to sputter. Just look at what the Eagles have put together as the model. Depth is another challenge so the Rams need to continue to reinforce.
 

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It's a dumb article. Yeah, if Snead had the value of hindsight, I'm sure he could have drafted only star players on Day 2.