Kupp’s Knee

[RamsOfCastamere]

According to Jourdan, Kupp will be on a management plan this season due to bursitis in his knee. This is where Jefferson gets his reps IMO.


View: https://twitter.com/jourdanrodrigue/status/1400185757168398336?s=21

 

[bluecoconuts]

Sounds like it should be fully healed at least, hopefully it's just a precautionary thing.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Now get Lewis fully healed.

 

[Psycho_X]

Just sounds like cautionary practice time reduced much like Rams do with their older veterans but no game time reduction. Which is a smart move considering his multiple knee injuries now. He doesn't need practice at this point other than getting in sync with Stafford but I'm sure there will be enough for that.

 

[Corbin]

Not to much to be worried about it seems.

 

[blackbart]

That doesn’t sound like a plan to reduce his snaps.
It is painful, had it myself but not bad enough to have it drained.

Degloving sounds particularly nasty and probably the worse of the things he had going on.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Debbie Downer POV...

when people have knee problems, they often reoccur.

If he struggled with bursitis at the end of last year, there's every reason to be concerned it could happen at some point this season also.

I hope they stick to the plan of reducing his snaps in reg season to keep him fresh for playoffs

 

[kurtfaulk]

Debbie Downer POV...

when people have knee problems, they often reoccur.

If he struggled with bursitis at the end of last year, there's every reason to be concerned it could happen at some point this season also.

I hope they stick to the plan of reducing his snaps in reg season to keep him fresh for playoffs

But what about our fantasy football teams?

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[Neil039]

I would like him available during the playoffs..JMO

 

[I like Rams]

Not sure how a knee can be "degloved"? Degloving is when the skin around your hand is torn off.

 

[1maGoh]

Not sure how a knee can be "degloved"? Degloving is when the skin around your hand is torn off.

There's another condition for which that word is used. I googled it. Basically the skin and subcutaneous tissue detach and sag.

 

[den-the-coach]

Now get Lewis fully healed.

I'm not sure if that's actually possible.

 

[snackdaddy]

Maybe have him on a certain snap count? We need a healthy and rested Kupp in the postseason. While he's taking his breaks Stafford can spend his time throwing long TD's to Tutu and Jackson.

 

[oldnotdead]

If Sean stays with his 11 personnel Jackson and Jefferson will probably be in rotation as the 3rd WR. Jefferson gives Sean more options as he can line up at all 3 WR positions while Jackson is best in the slot. Jackson is on a one year rental so it simply gives Van another year to polish his craft.

IMO the biggest question will be at TE. Harris apparently is showcasing his speed and hands in OTAs making the case for getting game snaps though he is practicing with the second and third units right now.

Much has been made of his transition to TE, but remember the TE runs the Y receiver route tree in most offenses, and he has experience with being a slot WR. His issues are primarily technique related and he's expressed his willingness to play STs. As a TE his primary issue will be in blocking as a converted WR. His route running needs work but initially, he will work off a simplified route tree. As I've said, if he can show he can block then I think Mundt is gone in Sept. as he's only signed on basically a vet minimum type of deal with $100k in dead cap on a $920K cap hit. I don't see Harris as a long-term developmental player. Although I can see it taking 2 years, I think most will be resolved next year and the third year will be about polish.

This fits with Higbee's contract should he have breakout years and be deemed too expensive to extend in 2024. What has helped Higbee up is his lack of long speed. He's essentially primarily a possession TE probably running in the 4.7 range. Hopkins has average speed for the position at 4.66 so I think that eventually, Harris supplants both Higbee and Hopkins as the starter. Having a TE with size and breakaway speed will really expand McVay's offense. People have made a lot about how the TE position has been underutilized in McVay's offense, but I think it has a lot to do with Tyler's lack of deep speed.

That isn't to say they won't extend Higbee only that the Rams will have options if Harris and Hopkins develop on schedule. If Higbee is extended I see it as a 3-year deal but only 2 by structure.

 

[FarNorth]

Sounds like it should be fully healed at least, hopefully it's just a precautionary thing.

Fluid in the knee is common recovering from an injury or surgery. But sounds like Kupp is fine now. And I wouldn't freak out too much over an unspecified "management plan."

 

[MachS]

Still frustrating to me that a 28yr old seems to be dealing with more knee issues now, especially after his ACL tear in 2018. Love Kupp but he gets banged up every year and by late in the season his health and production seem to fade to me. Hopefully with Jefferson, DJax, and Atwell we can limit his reps and keep him healthy. Love his game overall but he needs to be on the field late in the year. I personally think its from his insane 4-yr NCAA usage where he broke all those records. That much mileage on someone who is paid to sprint every single snap is tough as you age. Which is why in a Julio trade offer I wouldn't be against trading Kupp and his $15M salary. I think he's a little better than Woods right now, its very close though.. but Kupp's health really has me concerned. Especially with how much blocking our WRs are asked to do in this McVay offense. Coming down on huge DEs and OLBs cant be easy, And that is exactly how he injured his knee late last year..blocking.

 

[blackbart]

Still frustrating to me that a 28yr old seems to be dealing with more knee issues now, especially after his ACL tear in 2018. Love Kupp but he gets banged up every year and by late in the season his health and production seem to fade to me. Hopefully with Jefferson, DJax, and Atwell we can limit his reps and keep him healthy. Love his game overall but he needs to be on the field late in the year. I personally think its from his insane 4-yr NCAA usage where he broke all those records. That much mileage on someone who is paid to sprint every single snap is tough as you age. Which is why in a Julio trade offer I wouldn't be against trading Kupp and his $15M salary. I think he's a little better than Woods right now, its very close though.. but Kupp's health really has me concerned. Especially with how much blocking our WRs are asked to do in this McVay offense. Coming down on huge DEs and OLBs cant be easy, And that is exactly how he injured his knee late last year..blocking.

I thought he banged knees with a db at the line on his release.

 

[Florida_Ram]

That doesn’t sound like a plan to reduce his snaps.
It is painful, had it myself but not bad enough to have it drained.

Degloving sounds particularly nasty and probably the worse of the things he had going on.

Kupp said Wednesday that he suffered a “de-gloving injury,” with a French name that he could not recall. Kupp suffered a Morel-Lavalle’e lesion, in which skin and tissue separate from underlying tissue.

Morel-Lavallée lesion is a closed degloving soft tissue injury, as a result of abrupt separation of skin and subcutaneous tissue from the underlying fascia. This condition was first decribed by French physician Maurice Morel-Lavallée in the year 1853.

Methods: Twenty-seven knees in 24 players were identified from 1 National Football League team's annual injury database as having sustained a Morel-Lavallee lesion between 1993 and 2006. Their charts were retrospectively reviewed.

Results: The most common mechanism of injury was a shearing blow on the playing surface (81%). The most common motion deficit was active flexion (41%). The mean time for resolution of the fluid collection and achievement of full active flexion was 16.3 days.

The mean number of practices missed was 1.5. The mean number of games missed was 0.1. Fourteen knees (52%) were treated successfully with compression wrap, cryotherapy, and motion exercises.

Thirteen knees (48%) were treated with at least 1 aspiration, and 6 knees (22%) were treated with multiple aspirations for recurrent serosanguineous fluid collections. In 3 cases (11%), the Morel-Lavallee lesion was successfully treated with doxycycline sclerodesis after 3 aspirations failed to resolve the recurrent fluid collections; return to play was immediate thereafter in each case.

Conclusion: In football, Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee usually occurs from a shearing blow from the playing field. Diagnosis is confirmed when examination reveals a large suprapatellar area of palpable fluctuance.

Elite athletes are typically able to return to practice and game play long before complete resolution of the lesion. Recurrent fluid collections can occur, necessitating aspiration in approximately half the cases for successful treatment.

Recalcitrant fluid collections can be safely and expeditiously treated with doxycycline sclerodesis.

Management of Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee: twenty-seven cases in the national football league - PubMed

In football, Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee usually occurs from a shearing blow from the playing field. Diagnosis is confirmed when examination reveals a large suprapatellar area of palpable fluctuance. Elite athletes are typically able to return to practice and game play long before complete...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[“Turbo set!”]

I hated the contract at the time and don't like it more now.

 

[FarNorth]

Kupp said Wednesday that he suffered a “de-gloving injury,” with a French name that he could not recall. Kupp suffered a Morel-Lavalle’e lesion, in which skin and tissue separate from underlying tissue.

Morel-Lavallée lesion is a closed degloving soft tissue injury, as a result of abrupt separation of skin and subcutaneous tissue from the underlying fascia. This condition was first decribed by French physician Maurice Morel-Lavallée in the year 1853.

Methods: Twenty-seven knees in 24 players were identified from 1 National Football League team's annual injury database as having sustained a Morel-Lavallee lesion between 1993 and 2006. Their charts were retrospectively reviewed.

Results: The most common mechanism of injury was a shearing blow on the playing surface (81%). The most common motion deficit was active flexion (41%). The mean time for resolution of the fluid collection and achievement of full active flexion was 16.3 days.

The mean number of practices missed was 1.5. The mean number of games missed was 0.1. Fourteen knees (52%) were treated successfully with compression wrap, cryotherapy, and motion exercises.

Thirteen knees (48%) were treated with at least 1 aspiration, and 6 knees (22%) were treated with multiple aspirations for recurrent serosanguineous fluid collections. In 3 cases (11%), the Morel-Lavallee lesion was successfully treated with doxycycline sclerodesis after 3 aspirations failed to resolve the recurrent fluid collections; return to play was immediate thereafter in each case.

Conclusion: In football, Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee usually occurs from a shearing blow from the playing field. Diagnosis is confirmed when examination reveals a large suprapatellar area of palpable fluctuance.

Elite athletes are typically able to return to practice and game play long before complete resolution of the lesion. Recurrent fluid collections can occur, necessitating aspiration in approximately half the cases for successful treatment.

Recalcitrant fluid collections can be safely and expeditiously treated with doxycycline sclerodesis.

Management of Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee: twenty-seven cases in the national football league - PubMed

In football, Morel-Lavallee lesion of the knee usually occurs from a shearing blow from the playing field. Diagnosis is confirmed when examination reveals a large suprapatellar area of palpable fluctuance. Elite athletes are typically able to return to practice and game play long before complete...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For an 1853 French knee condition this actually sounds somewhat positive on the rehab front.