Jared Goff's career as a Ram has started a lot like Eli Manning's when he broke in with the Giants

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-goff-eli-manning-20171101-story.html

Jared Goff's career as a Ram has started a lot like Eli Manning's when he broke in with the Giants

Gary KleinContact Reporter


The quarterback was taken No. 1 in the NFL draft, and then sat for nine games before he got his first start.

He struggled mightily as a rookie — drawing criticism from fans who questioned whether the team mortgaged its future to acquire him — before finding his footing during his second season and putting his team on track for the playoffs.

Jared Goff?

No, that was Eli Manning.

The two-time Super Bowl champion went 1-6 as a starter in his first season with the New York Giants in 2004, and then led them to an 11-5 record and playoff appearance in Year 2.

Goff, the No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft, appears to be on a similar second-year trajectory.

He was 0-7 as a starter last season, but has helped lead the Rams to a 5-2 start heading into Sunday’s game against Manning and the 1-6 Giants at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J.

Goff said Wednesday that he was a “big fan” of the 36-year-old Manning, who has passed for 330 touchdowns and nearly 50,000 yards during 13-plus NFL seasons, winning two Super Bowls.

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“He seems to be gaining confidence,” Giants coach Ben McAdoo said of Goff, adding, “The system seems to fit his skill set.”

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“It happens, you know,” Manning told New York reporters Wednesday, adding, “We got to, obviously, go about our business and then when guys come back, you don’t think about it and you keep going.”

Manning demonstrated perseverance early in his career after making a declaration before he was drafted.
Manning played in college at Mississippi and had said before the 2004 draft that he would not sign with the then-San Diego Chargers if they selected him with the first pick.

But the Chargers did so anyway after working out a trade with the Giants. The Chargers sent Manning to New York for quarterback Philip Rivers and three draft picks, including a No. 1 pick in 2005.

Kevin Gilbride was Manning’s position coach during the quarterback’s first three NFL seasons and then became offensive coordinator for Giants teams that won Super Bowls in the 2007 and 2011 seasons.

Future Hall of Famer Kurt Warner was the Giants’ starting quarterback in 2004 before the Giants made the switch to Manning and lost six games in a row.

“For a while there now, it was tough to watch,” Gilbride said during a phone interview.

But Manning finished the season by leading the Giants to a victory over the Dallas Cowboys.

“What you see is the poise, the equanimity, the composure,” Gilbride said, “because he’s getting torn at 100 different ways and you just see whether or not he can deal with that.

“Because you have veteran teammates looking askance at you like, ‘What the freak is he in here for?’ Or the fans. ‘We wasted a draft pick on this guy?’ and so on and so forth. I just watched the way he handled it.”

Gilbride also coached Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon, Drew Bledsoe and Mark Brunell, among others.

“All the great ones, there’s a calmness about them,” he said. “They just don’t get frazzled very easily, and Eli’s definitely of that ilk as well.”

McVay has made similar comments about Goff. How he keeps his composure after setbacks. How he does not get rattled.

Asked how Goff compares to Manning, McVay noted that “Eli’s a Hall of Fame-caliber player.

“If we’re talking about that, then things are going really well for us, and for Jared moving forward into the future.”

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Safety Cody Davis (thigh) did not practice and receiver Josh Reynolds (concussion protocol) was limited. Linebackers Mark Barron and Connor Barwin and offensive linemen Andrew Whitworth and John Sullivan did not practice because of scheduled rest. … McVay said he had discussions with general manager Les Snead before Tuesday’s trade deadline, but the Rams stood pat. “We both agreed that where we’re at right now, and the players that we have that we’re counting on, and that are playing for us, we feel really good about moving forward,” McVay said. “And let’s continue on with that and not feel like you’ve got to do anything because of an injury or things like that that some of the teams you might have seen make a move.”
 

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I'd take the two super bowl victories , but that's it .
 

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I'm not sure but did Jared leave the field crying like Eli did against the ravens?

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I almost feel sorry for Eli right now. Everyone is judging him so harshly but he has nothing around him. No offensive line, no healthy receivers, no running game, and a rookie TE still learning the NFL.
 

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I almost feel sorry for Eli right now. Everyone is judging him so harshly but he has nothing around him. No offensive line, no healthy receivers, no running game, and a rookie TE still learning the NFL.
Sounds like Rams QBs for the past 5 years. :LOL::cry:

Kidding aside... this story (young QB struggling at first, then becoming successful) is all too common.
P. Manning
1st year 3-13 2nd year 13-3
Elway
1st year 4-6 2nd year 12-2
Montana
1st year 2-5 2nd year 13-3
Rodgers
1st year 6-1 2nd year 11-5

Once a team selects a QB in the first round, it's imperative that they:
1] Surround him with a decent amount of talent
2] Provide him with exceptional coaching

Failure to do those two things will make what probably is a talented first rounder into what looks like a bust (David Carr?).

Had Fisher remained, this fate might have befallen Goff.

Luckily, Fisher is gone and #'s 1 & 2 are in place... and, guess what, the Rams are having success.
 

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It's just plain stupid to expect a rookie or even a 2nd year QB to come into the NFL and perform at a high level. Sure, some have done so, but those that did usually had a lot of talent around them. It's why you can't compare Goff to Wentz.
 

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What kind of sentence is this? Does anybody proof-read anything?
Think it was a cut-and-paste issue... access the original article and it's fine.

Stop now complaining :LOL:
 

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Ok, bored at work so I did some math....
Eli Manning thru 14 games
6-8 W/L record
210/422 (49.8%) 2603 yds 19 TD (4.5%) 14 INT (3.3%) QB rating 70.4

Goff thru 14 games
5-9 W/L record
245/427 (57.4%) 2808 yds 14 TD (3.3%) 11 INT (2.6%) QB rating 77.5