Jake Ellenbogen's Final 53-Man Roster Prediction

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I'm with the guys backing Forrest. I also think he could play OLB if needed.

I'm not sure Mcroberts makes it, unless he's a placeholder(tryout) for when Mike Thomas returns.

I saw Eldrenkamp playing some Tackle in last night's game. I wonder if we see Wichman kept and Donall to the PUP?
 

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I think McRoberts has just been cut.
 

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I see Forest and Harkey making the team. No way they go into the season with no proven TEs that can block. They'll stash Wilson on the PS

I think your totally wrong about both Davies & Forest !! They are both such solid special team guys. Wonder about Harkey, but he looked real bad last night.
 

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Harkey has a body of work to be judged, not just one game. See how McVay sees it real soon
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Defensive line (6): Aaron Donald, Ethan Westbrooks, Michael Brockers, Tanzel Smart, Louis Trinca-Pasat, Morgan Fox
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This is sort of a bold prediction, but with recent dialogue, it appears Aaron Donald could have a deal sooner than later what would ultimately bring him back to the Rams. Factoring that in unfortunately Casey Sayles, who has looked real good in preseason gets the ax. With Donald, I believe this position group has a lot of promise.

Michael Brockers is one of the better lesser known defensive tackles in football, Ethan Westbrooks is an underrated pass rusher that has improved every year, Tanzel Smart is an exciting rookie that has extremely quick feet and can penetrate the interior like an Aaron Donald, Louis Trinca-Pasat is a player that brings a non-stop motor to the defense, Morgan Fox is literally the same exact thing with some underrated athletic build.

I think by the Rams keeping seven guys, it allows there to be a rotation that might become underrated and forgotten with no Dominique Easley in the fold.
Cut: Casey Sayles, Omarius Bryant, Tyrunn Walker

I have some differences with you here on this DL.I see the need for some experience in this DL make up. Tyrunn Walker provided that critical element. Wade has been utilizing a heavy dose of LB'ers in his DL fronts so the need in Numbers here is not required. Total of 6
DE- Westbrooks/ (R)Smart
NT- Brockers/ Purcell
DE- Walker/ LTP

Practice Squad prospects: DE Morgan Fox, NT Omarius Bryant & DE Casey Sayles all are eligible.
 

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Linebackers (9): Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree, Mark Barron, Matt Longacre, Bryce Hager, Cory Littleton, Samson Ebukam, Ejuan Price
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With the new switch over to Wade Phillips' defense, the Rams find themselves likely employing more linebackers than any former roster in the last decade. The starters are set to be Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree and Mark Barron. On paper that looks nice, but it's a matter of them all staying healthy and putting everything together. I feel as though the Rams have a lot of young talent at his position with Cory Littleton, Bryce Hager, Samson Ebukam and Ejuan Price. Unfortunately, players like Josh Forrest and Cassanova McKinzy might be the odd men out.

The Rams could realistically keep the nine listed with an additional 2-4 more linebackers based off who deserves to be on a 53-man roster. However, they are backed in a corner and will likely need depth in the secondary which will ultimately leave them parting ways with some talent at linebacker.

Cut: Cassanova McKinzy, Josh Forrest, Carlos Thompson, Nic Grigsby, Kevin Davis, Folarin Orimolade, Andy Mulumba, Davis Tull, Willie Mays
Since the DL & LB'ing cadre are blurry at best I though it would be best to follow up on my DL comments with the LB unit. I see a 10 player LB cadre myself.
WOLB- Quinn/ Longacre/ Price
WILB- Barron/ Forrest
SILB- Ogletree/ Hager
SOLB- Barwin/ McKinzy/ Ebukam

Those 2 new drafted Edge Rushers Price/Samson may not play an important role early but by the end of the season they will pay huge dividends. Wade will not let them hit the open market. When you have two starters who have been unhealthy all TC & pre season long you must be prepared for further problems thus you need the numbers here. In Wade Defense it the LB'ers not the DL that makes his D great. McKinzy turned into a gold nugget who can play all four LB'ing posts. If Barron is out against the Colts Josh Forrest will start in his place.

PS prospects: Cory Littleton & Carlos Thompson
 
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aurice Alexander, LaMarcus Joyner, Marqui Christian, Blake Countess, John Johnson
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It seems crazy to snub players like Cody Davis and Isaiah Johnson, but unfortunately that's what the draft pick of John Johnson ends up causing. No, I wasn't a fan of the pick and I'm still not. As you all know I am very optimistic about the Rams, but I did not like that pick of Johnson. Regardless, Mo Alexander and LaMarcus Joyner are starting this season and I believe the Rams will have two versatile pieces behind them in Marqui Christian and Blake Countess.

Countess, like Joyner and Johnson can play cornerback as well as safety. I believe the Rams could have mutual interest in recently rumored cut T.J. Ward, which would likely change everything for this unit. As for right now though, I don't believe the Rams need Ward. I like where the Rams are at with this group heading into week one. Don't sleep on Christian, he has a knack for the ball and could be a vital third safety moving forward.
Cut: Isaiah Johnson, Cody Davis
Not so sure Wade can drop FS Cody Davis yet. Joyner has yet to start an NFL game @ FS. This pre season has not been good for LJ. Fact is it was bad. I would not cut your most experience safety before finding out just what is up with LJ. I'll grant you that Blake Countess has been our best FS in pre season by a far margin but he has only 5 gms of experience with 2 starts @ the Nickel-back position last season. Countess was used @ outside corner early last night too.But this safety cadre has 3 Nickel backs located in it. So the heavy numbers will be in the safety cadre.
 

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Wow, a lot has changed but although I agree with some obvious keepers I never saw Harkey or Forest cutting cut, never saw Countess or Hatfield making it. Wichmann will make it until we need Thomas back. I love McRoberts always being in position to make a play but last year he fumbled a punt and this year he can't seem to fight through and make the catch. How many times was he targeted against the Pack? No, he does not make it. Walker changes more on the DLine than Watkins changes at WR. How 'bout Walker, Brockers & Westbrook with Quinn, Ogeltree, Barwin & Barrons behind them? Guess I'd feel a little better if I'd seen our D starters in game time once....
 

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I have a lot of differences in my 53. Too many to list really.
 

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Hey Doc, what are your major differences?

WR, Shippen would make it over McRoberts. I think OL is pretty close, tend to agree. DT, I think Walker makes it. LB, like already stated, Forrest is everywhere. Hagar will be cut, IMO, habn't looked good this year.We have a lot of talent, more than I thought at this position, I would make a few changes, and I could see a couple from this group make it because of ST play.

TE, Harkey over Wilson, but Hemmingway would have made Harkey expendable. I'd keep Mundt over Wilson if that did happen.

I happen to agree at CB, outside chance Peterson makes it, will be PS if not. The secondary is hard to predict, especially the S position, but I don't see Cody getting cut. I agree T.J. Ward would be a great fit. I hope it happens.

I basically agree with everything else.

This gets harder every year, which is a good thing.
 
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Since the DL & LB'ing cadre are blurry at best I though it would be best to follow up on my DL comments with the LB unit. I see a 10 player LB cadre myself.
WOLB- Quinn/ Longacre/ Price
WILB- Barron/ Forrest
SILB- Ogletree/ Hager
SOLB- Barwin/ McKinzy/ Ebukam

Those 2 new drafted Edge Rushers Price/Samson may not play an important role early but by the end of the season they will pay huge dividends. Wade will not let them hit the open market. When you have two starters who have been unhealthy all TC & pre season long you must be prepared for further problems thus you need the numbers here. In Wade Defense it the LB'ers not the DL that makes his D great. McKinzy turned into a gold nugget who can play all four LB'ing posts. If Barron is out against the Colts Josh Forrest will start in his place.

PS prospects: Cory Littleton & Carlos Thompson

Tough calls ? Why would Barron be out ?? From what I heard he is 100% good to go .

I like M. Fox on DL . Then again have not seen him playing on special teams.
 

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I have some differences with you here on this DL.I see the need for some experience in this DL make up. Tyrunn Walker provided that critical element. Wade has been utilizing a heavy dose of LB'ers in his DL fronts so the need in Numbers here is not required. Total of 6
DE- Westbrooks/ (R)Smart
NT- Brockers/ Purcell
DE- Walker/ LTP

Practice Squad prospects: DE Morgan Fox, NT Omarius Bryant & DE Casey Sayles all are eligible.

How did he miss Mike Purcell ?
 

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Not so sure Wade can drop FS Cody Davis yet. Joyner has yet to start an NFL game @ FS. This pre season has not been good for LJ. Fact is it was bad. I would not cut your most experience safety before finding out just what is up with LJ. I'll grant you that Blake Countess has been our best FS in pre season by a far margin but he has only 5 gms of experience with 2 starts @ the Nickel-back position last season. Countess was used @ outside corner early last night too.But this safety cadre has 3 Nickel backs located in it. So the heavy numbers will be in the safety cadre.

Pleasant is a heck of a good coach . He will put the best CB's out there. He loves them reading the plays . He talks a lot in practice.
 

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I have some differences with you here on this DL.I see the need for some experience in this DL make up. Tyrunn Walker provided that critical element. Wade has been utilizing a heavy dose of LB'ers in his DL fronts so the need in Numbers here is not required. Total of 6
DE- Westbrooks/ (R)Smart
NT- Brockers/ Purcell
DE- Walker/ LTP

Practice Squad prospects: DE Morgan Fox, NT Omarius Bryant & DE Casey Sayles all are eligible.
It's interesting.
Having Quinn, Barwin, Longacre....guys that can play OLB or hand down D line....really gives Wade flexibility.
 

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Looks solid.

Very possible.

I'd like to see Isaiah Johnson, Josh Forest and Harkey stay.

I think they provide some depth we may need.
 

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No way the Rams carry 7 WR's and it's obvious now it won't be McRoberts who Shippen outplayed IMO....Hager will be cut, too many other athletes at linebacker and Eldrenkamp over Wichmann, wow! It is very possible, but Wichmann has a ton of starts and I thought Wichmann had some moments in preseason, but Eldrenkamp can play both positions, we shall see.

I would keep Harkey and cut Rogers, I don't really see what Rogers offers as his blocking has not been good and what else can he do? And If Donald does not report I guarantee that Tyrunn Walker makes the squad and he might make it even if Donald signs because of his history with defensive line coach Bill Johnson.
 

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Each week we will bring you an updated look at our prediction for the 53-man roster. Since our last prediction many things have gone down to change the original look of how we felt the roster would play out. Of course, that's football, so here are our 53-man roster predictions following not only preseason week one, but the Sammy Watkins blockbuster trade as well.

Quarterback (2): Jared Goff, Sean Mannion
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Yeah, obviously there really isn't much competition. Jared Goff is the starter and that is not in question, but what also isn't in question is how the Rams feel about backup and former third-round pick Sean Mannion. He may not be the Rams long-term backup plan, but Mannion, as we know now, is the backup moving forward. If the Rams had any doubt that Mannion couldn't do it, they would have either drafted a QB (Brad Kaaya was available in the sixth round) or they would have given him more competition then just throwing out a camp arm in Dan Orlovsky.

At first it may have been up in the air going into the off-season when the Rams signed Aaron Murray to compete the for the second QB job, but it became quite evident of the Rams feelings of Mannion when they decided to release Murray before OTA's

Cut: Dan Orlovsky

Running back (3): Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown, Justin Davis
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Another obvious starter Todd Gurley is not going anywhere. Malcolm Brown appears to have taken a vice grip in the backup role unless he continues to put the ball on the ground like he did twice last night. As far as the running backs go after that? Not really a guarantee for any of them and that even includes Lance Dunbar who the Rams signed in free agency.

For a running back like Aaron Green, not competing in the first two games puts him on the bottom of the depth chart or close to it. Of the running backs the most impressive and disappointing on the field was USC product Justin Davis who took nine carries for 70 yards, but a the same time had two fumbles in week one. Davis likely put himself in the roster discussion. Last night he showed some of his ability as a pass catcher out of the backfield.

As for Lenard Tillery, he didn't get much of a chance to run the ball, but when he did it went backwards. Tillery has little time to show the Rams he's an asset. Lastly, this all begs the question if the Rams can have backs like Davis, Tillery and Green show out moving forward to close out preseason. Do the Rams really have to keep Lance Dunbar? I believe Dunbar will likely be put on the injured reserve or PUP list as there has been no reason to believe he will return to the field anytime soon.

Cut: Aaron Green, Lenard Tillery
PUP: Lance Dunbar

Fullback (1): Sam Rogers
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After Zach Laskey went down it became Sam Rogers job by default. Laskey is on the Rams injured reserve list and Rogers is one of those players that gives it his all every day and is the first one to show up on the field at practice. Rogers offers special team value, but he was the best fullback coming out of college this year and the Rams plan on using him as a blocker, receiver and runner. There is no doubt the Rams will hold onto him as he offers plenty and he fits in the "We not Me" culture as well as anyone.

Cut: N/A

Wide receiver (7): Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper, Josh Reynolds, Paul McRoberts
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Well, the Sammy Watkins blockbuster trade really shook things up for the Rams and likely knocked a player the Rams pegged as someone who would make the team off of the roster. We likely know of the six players the Rams are keeping in Watkins, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper and Josh Reynolds. What we don't know is if they will keep more and if so, who that last player will be.

Overall, this position started out so unpredictable and has gone to what is likely the most predictable position on the roster. All we know is that there are four receivers guaranteed (unless you are on the fence that Tavon Austin makes the team) followed by a ton of uncertainty. The Rams could easily decide to keep McRoberts who actually worked with the first-team offense in their scrimmage versus the Chargers, they could decide that Spruce offers too much as a receiver to just let go or they could say that Cooper is a former fourth-round pick that can do a little bit of everything in the offensive game and special teams game and decide to ultimately keep him.

The last three wide receivers the Rams brought in KD Cannon, C.J. Germany and Justin Thomas appeared to receive a minuscule amount of snaps, but the Rams did try Cannon in the kick return game at least once in the preseason opener. Shakeir Ryan is going to offer something as a returner which will likely leave the Rams coaching staff to make a tough decision. I think when you look at the grand scheme of things, you have to consider who brings size to the table, who is out there everyday competing, who brings game-breaking ability in the return game and who isn't there.

Unfortunately, with the Watkins trade the Rams may have made a mistake in even drafting Josh Reynolds who will likely make the team regardless of what happens and likely push off one of the fan favorites like McRoberts or Spruce. You could also see a trade or two and with that being said Pharoh Cooper would seem like the most likely in that department. You still have to keep in mind Mike Thomas will sit on the suspension list for four games and won't count against the roster. An interesting dynamic to keep in mind as well.

Cut: Brandon Shippen, Shakeir Ryan, Nelson Spruce, KD Cannon
Suspended: Mike Thomas (available for week five if the Rams choose to bring him back on the roster)

Tight end (3): Gerald Everett, Tyler Higbee, Travis Wilson
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This Gerald Everett guy looks like no tight end we have ever seen the Rams deploy. Everett has an amazing blend of size, speed and overall quickness. While it says Tyler Higbee as the starter right now on the depth chart, don't be surprised when it's the second-round pick as the starter at the end of the preseason.

With that all being said the Rams seemed set to have three tight ends Everett, Higbee and Temarrick Hemingway moving forward. That was until Hemingway suffered a grueling fractured fibula injury that will sideline him more than half the season. All of them played at least one snap with the first-team offense. Cory Harkey would seem like the likely next man up and the reason being he has dominated the others in snaps in the preseason, let alone his longevity in the league. However, the first signing in the new Sean McVay era was Travis Wilson, a former QB turned TE after working on the transition for awhile. I think McVay likes him as his project and will likely hold onto him.

Cut: Cory Harkey, Johnny Mundt
PUP: Temarrick Hemingway

Offensive line (9): Andrew Whitworth, Rodger Saffold, John Sullivan, Jamon Brown, Rob Havenstein, Andrew Donnal, Austin Blythe, Jake Eldrenkamp, Darrell Williams
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This is a unit that shows improvement in the starters, but man, do the Rams have a lot of evaluating to do to get this offensive line depth in order heading into the season. Some of the names above that I have listed to make the roster may not make it and might actually be replaced by a player that is not even on the Rams yet. That's just the nature of the business, it's a very "give and take" type of league and the Rams have to be a team watching attentively to see who is ultimately let go.

Andrew Donnal and Austin Blythe are quite honestly the "stars" of the second-team and I wouldn't sleep on Donnal who could possibly replace Jamon Brown if he turns out to be the wrong decision. Another player to watch would likely be Jake Eldrenkamp who has the ability to play both center and guard. The guy I would expect if any, to be replaced would be Pace Murphy who has had a rough time in pass protection. Although the Rams may not want to think about the idea of their stud left tackle going down with injury. It's important to have a backup plan and right now the Rams best option might be a player that has barely played the tackle spot and that's Donnal.

Cut: Alex Kozan, Parker Collins, Pace Murphy, Michael Dunn, Cody Wichmann

Defensive line (6): Aaron Donald, Ethan Westbrooks, Michael Brockers, Tanzel Smart, Louis Trinca-Pasat, Morgan Fox
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This is sort of a bold prediction, but with recent dialogue, it appears Aaron Donald could have a deal sooner than later what would ultimately bring him back to the Rams. Factoring that in unfortunately Casey Sayles, who has looked real good in preseason gets the ax. With Donald, I believe this position group has a lot of promise.

Michael Brockers is one of the better lesser known defensive tackles in football, Ethan Westbrooks is an underrated pass rusher that has improved every year, Tanzel Smart is an exciting rookie that has extremely quick feet and can penetrate the interior like an Aaron Donald, Louis Trinca-Pasat is a player that brings a non-stop motor to the defense, Morgan Fox is literally the same exact thing with some underrated athletic build.

I think by the Rams keeping seven guys, it allows there to be a rotation that might become underrated and forgotten with no Dominique Easley in the fold.

Cut: Casey Sayles, Omarius Bryant, Tyrunn Walker

Linebackers (9): Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree, Mark Barron, Matt Longacre, Bryce Hager, Cory Littleton, Samson Ebukam, Ejuan Price
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With the new switch over to Wade Phillips' defense, the Rams find themselves likely employing more linebackers than any former roster in the last decade. The starters are set to be Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree and Mark Barron. On paper that looks nice, but it's a matter of them all staying healthy and putting everything together. I feel as though the Rams have a lot of young talent at his position with Cory Littleton, Bryce Hager, Samson Ebukam and Ejuan Price. Unfortunately, players like Josh Forrest and Cassanova McKinzy might be the odd men out.

The Rams could realistically keep the nine listed with an additional 2-4 more linebackers based off who deserves to be on a 53-man roster. However, they are backed in a corner and will likely need depth in the secondary which will ultimately leave them parting ways with some talent at linebacker.

Cut: Cassanova McKinzy, Josh Forrest, Carlos Thompson, Nic Grigsby, Kevin Davis, Folarin Orimolade, Andy Mulumba, Davis Tull, Willie Mays

Cornerbacks (5): Trumaine Johnson, Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Michael Jordan, Dominique Hatfield
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The Rams traded away E.J. Gaines for Sammy Watkins and while Gaines could be considered a loss, I believe the Rams are equipped with some nice depth even going down to the back end of the position. Trumaine Johnson returns on a rental one-year contract, Kayvon Webster is the one player at cornerback that we still have yet to see in game action. I believe he can be a legit starter in the NFL and if so, that alleviates the pressure of losing Gaines to this trade.

After the two projected starters, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Michael Jordan and Dominique Hatfield make up what I believe will be the full position depth chart. This leaves the Rams with a young group at the back end with Jordan and Hatfield that the Rams can develop moving forward. Yes, to some, Hatfield seems like a shocking pick, but that's who I predicted on the latest Downtown Rams Podcast episode and I'm sticking with it here.

I love what Kevin Peterson brings to the table, but unfortunately, I don't believe he received enough reps to actually make this roster. He showed some serious potential in limited opportunities, but I don't believe it was enough to get on the 53, but I do believe it will be enough to make the practice squad. Regardless of what you may think about Peterson, keeping him and perhaps another cornerback in the building probably makes the most sense.

Cut: Aarion Penton, Kevin Peterson, Tyqwuan Glass, Carlos Davis
Suspended: Troy Hill (available for week three if the Rams choose to bring him back on the roster)

Safeties (5): Maurice Alexander, LaMarcus Joyner, Marqui Christian, Blake Countess, John Johnson
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It seems crazy to snub players like Cody Davis and Isaiah Johnson, but unfortunately that's what the draft pick of John Johnson ends up causing. No, I wasn't a fan of the pick and I'm still not. As you all know I am very optimistic about the Rams, but I did not like that pick of Johnson. Regardless, Mo Alexander and LaMarcus Joyner are starting this season and I believe the Rams will have two versatile pieces behind them in Marqui Christian and Blake Countess.

Countess, like Joyner and Johnson can play cornerback as well as safety. I believe the Rams could have mutual interest in recently rumored cut T.J. Ward, which would likely change everything for this unit. As for right now though, I don't believe the Rams need Ward. I like where the Rams are at with this group heading into week one. Don't sleep on Christian, he has a knack for the ball and could be a vital third safety moving forward.

Cut: Isaiah Johnson, Cody Davis

Special Teams (3): K Greg Zuerlein, P Johnny Hekker, LS Jake McQuaide
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Nothing to see here....

Cut: Travis Coons

Predicted Practice Squad:
RB Lenard Tillery
WR Brandon Shippen
WR Shakeir Ryan
TE Johnny Mundt
OT Michael Dunn
DT Casey Sayles
LB Cassanova McKinzy
LB Davis Tull
CB Kevin Peterson
SS Isaiah Johnson

Where to start? In fairness, these late slots get down to hairsplitting without benefit of seeing practices or team meeting interactions. So any predictions should be taken with a grain of salt, certainly including mine.

Here goes...

Sam Rogers seems very iffy. Unimpressive camp.

Harkey is in and Travis Wilson is out. Watch for a waiver wire look see player at TE.

Only 6 WR's will be kept. McRoberts is clearly not one of them. Jake picked the right six.

Nine OL sounds about right, but only one of Eldrenkamp or Blythe will survive. Wichmann is in. But stay tuned for a possible camp cut pickup player.

Tyrunn Walker is in pending AD's return. Maybe even after, tbh.

LB is tough. Maybe they keep 10. I do feel strongly that Forrest will make it.

I just don't know who to keep as a 5th CB. If any. Might keep only 4, given the flexibility of the Safeties and Wade's tendency to keep 10 LB's. Plus Troy Hill will be available after his suspension is served.

I would not be in the least surprised to see Snead scouring the waiver wire for a TE, OL, or maybe even DL.