I just saw what Isaiah Crowell did after his TD run

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André

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I love it when people get offended over crap I forget about as soon as it happened.

DId you guys watch the pornhub awards? If you want to be offended...

No, I missed those.

Where would I find them? You know, so I can determine if they are offensive and all. ;)
 

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Holding football players to high moral standards?
Yeah...

Let me know how that all works out.
 

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Holding football players to high moral standards?
Yeah...

Let me know how that all works out.

What about high behavioral standards on and off the field. Accountability for being a dbag is not a bad thing. JMHO.

A players morals are different altogether from behaviors, you know that. Plenty of people with bad morals live life without acting like fools and hurting the image of the place they earn money.
 

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What about high behavioral standards on and off the field. Accountability for being a dbag is not a bad thing. JMHO.

A players morals are different altogether from behaviors, you know that. Plenty of people with bad morals live life without acting like fools and hurting the image of the place they earn money.
Of course morals and behaviors are different. *You're* holding them to a high moral standard - or behavioral standard - six of one, half dozen of the other. It's kind of a futile endeavor to expect people to conform to your (or my) ideal standard if it's not something they care much about. If the larger issue is that it hurts the image of the league? That ship, my friend, has long since sailed.
 

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I don't know what people are expecting.

He got 15 yards for it. He will almost certainly be fined for it. It wouldn't shock me if the league let out that future infractions will be facing larger fines.

They are not going to eject players for celebrations in poor taste. They are not going to suspend for that. Those penalties are reserved for far more serious offenses. The league is not condoning - they are punishing. And from what was posted earlier, teammates are upset about it - because taunting is good for motivating the other team, and 15 yards is 15 yards, after all.

This was an over the top celebration that has been punished, will be punished further, and which the league is likely to increase the punishment for. It is not condoned. It also is not the biggest thing ever. DUIs are vastly worse, for instance. Hitting one's wife or GF is vastly worse. Insider trading or other felonies are vastly worse. Why isn't there the same level of outrage for these?
 

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There's a back story to Moss shooting the Moon at Green Bay if you haven't heard.

Apparently, for a long time, many Packer fans started a tradition of mooning the team bus of the opposing teams as they pull out of the stadium after games. So, Moss was just getting back at them after his TD.

I'd say it wasn't the most classy thing to do on national tv, but knowing the back story makes it pretty damn funny to me!
I wonder if any of the people who mooned the bus were offended.
 

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If the larger issue is that it hurts the image of the league? That ship, my friend, has long since sailed.

The NBA had an even worse image than the NFL does now. I know you don't follow that league but believe me any fans like me that have followed the NBA can back me up on that. They fixed it and are more popular than ever. And they have grown their popularity globally way more than the NFL has. The NFL can do that too. It is, IMO, right now a matter of willingness on the party of the leadership of the NFLPA and the NFL. Both of which are the worst, maybe of all time in pro sports in the USA.

There are a few issues with this type of stuff. And Goodell has proven to us he just wants to have things "go away" rather than facing them unless there is very heavy media pressure driven by fan reaction to things like domestic abuse and other serious crimes, dirty play, terrible refs, poorly defined rules that help drive the refs bad performances etc.

IMO he does almost as much to hurt the NFL as he does to help it. The Ray Rice video exposed him and his weak leadership ability totally and completely. He saw the tape, and he didn't do anything to alter the suspension. The media got the tape and showed it to the world and then he had to respond. And acting shocked in retrospect was fucked up. If he would have had the balls to address it by saying "we have seen the video from the elevator and outside the elevator and have decided to change the penalty to an indefinite suspension" he would have been in front of this and lauded for it. But he opted for status quo and wasn't smart enough to understand that he had a copy of the tape, which means the ORIGINAL still existed and that shit ALWAYS comes to light.

He handled Deflategate like an idiot, regardless of which side you were on with that fiasco. Same with Spygate, the refs strike, the Miami shitstorm with Incognito, Bountygate, Roethlisbergers sexual assault, AP beating the crap out of his 4 year old son, the concussion thing from start to finish. The list is long.

Every single one of the reasons people are getting worn out by the NFL are fixable. He doesn't have the sack for it. And while he gets a lot of blame for things he shouldn't get blamed for the NFL's image is mostly on him. He's afraid to rip of the band-aid. Stern wasn't. And the NBA is better off now because of it.
 

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It was a crass act. And I can't fucking believe I read this whole thread. Well THAT's time I'll never get back.
 

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The thing that amazes me there ... every hit was brutal .. but I don’t think many of the them would draw a flag in today’s NFL ... I’d have love to have seen Youngblood play in his day

Great tackles, great form. Textbook shit right there.

in all those sacks i think he only landed on top of the qb with his body weight once. strange how it was the exact opposite for sacks recently before this season.

Yup.

Of course morals and behaviors are different. *You're* holding them to a high moral standard - or behavioral standard - six of one, half dozen of the other. It's kind of a futile endeavor to expect people to conform to your (or my) ideal standard if it's not something they care much about.

If morals and behaviors are different then it isn't "six of one half dozen of the other".

I do think that the NFL needs to raise the bar though. And they will care if their are negative consequences. That changes behaviors.

Well THAT's time I'll never get back.

Yeah but it was a good growth experience for you.

I just grabbed a football and bent over and rubbed it between my asscheeks and on my third point of contact.

Maybe I should rethink my position here, it was wonderful.
 

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If morals and behaviors are different then it isn't "six of one half dozen of the other".
Dude.
I'm talking about the standards you're holding them to.
The *actions* are different. They're similar standards.

You obtuse penis.
 

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I love freedom but going back to no celebrations after a TD wouldn't bug me. most the celebrations are really dumb, overthought and difficult to follow. Spike it, bob and weave. but wipe your ass.....WTF are you (not) thinking
I could not care less but if it is a topic that's my feeling
 

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are you sure? they might try to take a football with them to the bathroom and actually try to wipe their arse with it. then play catch with their brother.

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who knows, some of these kids nowadays probably think that's why the ball is brown in the first place.
 

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I thought the Browns had lost their damn mind when they let him go. But after I saw that, I was happy they did it. Trash...complete trash.
Carlos Hyde is a much better running back . brownies get a win on that player change. they "should" be 3-0. scary.
 

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Agree with trashy and stupid....like watching redneck backyard wrestling

He’s a dumbass